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Real Corona Death Rate
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east_beast
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Everyone dies of cardiac arrest and loss of brain function. There's just a lot of different ways to cause that. Trying to play the semantics game to downplay a specific disease and and it's contribution to that just isn't very useful.
Sterlingfire
ignant
Please, someone give absolute proof that it even exists... when they test for the covid-19 virus, they test for pieces of the virus only... they actually test for pieces of other corona viruses, like sars and the common cold. So if they know it exists, and they claim to know what it looks like, why are they testing for the common cold when testing is done? My questions will go unanswered, because they have yet to be answered up to this point. Imo, they don't actually know what they're dealing with, they certainly don't know how to treat it, and by giving hospitals free reign to diagnose people without actually testing for it... just so they can get their federal covid funding. Funny how some hospitals are/ were overwhelmed with patients, but others have had to file bankruptcy. Weird how such a deadly virus didn't fill EVERY hospital with sick folks and most people who have gotten it, didn't even know they had it. THIS IS FUCKED UP and if you believe in this shit after this long, fuck you and your dumb ass parrot box
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I am fairly certain I had this shit in November/ December... I won't go to the doctor unless I am dying, even then I will think on it.
Also pretty sure I have some lingering effects from it.
No doubt MANY people had this, have this or will have and just roll through it. Like they do, every year with the common cold.
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Kyle
Formerly known as Kyle_T
My point was that CV19 isn’t the issue. It would be sars19 or aids19 or whatever political attack on the current administration could be mounted. This is far more than an illness. remember under obama we had a huge illness and it was completely ignored. It was far more contagious and far more “deadly” than the coronavirus simply because the way the virus worked and how it affected people. Look at the mask mandate and the actual science behind a mask. Ever ask these sheeple the last time they washed their hands? It’s appalling and THAT is a far greater way to stop the spread. Yet they are the ones crying and calling people out for not wearing a mask “for the good of everyone”.
ToyFord
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Would be interesting to see what the OP has to share for the “real” mortality rates backed up with verifiable facts.
My thoughts are that the facts aren’t, since this deal is politically driven. So, as many have stated, we will never know the real numbers.
To think washing hands endlessly, wearing masks (that are touched by those washed hands every minute or so) and walking one way in grocery store isles and not shaking hands will keep me or someone else from catching a virus is ludicrous. If I’m really scared of catching this, then I’d better become a hermit in the woods with no human contact and none within miles of where I’m living in the mud.
Meanwhile people will give up one freedom after another and wonder what happened to their real USA they lived in just a handful of months ago. Other that than realization will come to late and too little. Scared people are easier to control, that’s pretty obvious.
Life is a risk, death is certain. I’ll take the risk for the time being and it really isn’t scary or concerning to me on the CV19 front, although societies response to it gets more concerning everyday.
Never the less, I know this situation is bad for some, and for those, I wish them the best and hope that they will take precautions to protect themselves. The rest of us have a life to live and I chose freedom over “security” (including a false sense thereof).
My thoughts are that the facts aren’t, since this deal is politically driven. So, as many have stated, we will never know the real numbers.
To think washing hands endlessly, wearing masks (that are touched by those washed hands every minute or so) and walking one way in grocery store isles and not shaking hands will keep me or someone else from catching a virus is ludicrous. If I’m really scared of catching this, then I’d better become a hermit in the woods with no human contact and none within miles of where I’m living in the mud.
Meanwhile people will give up one freedom after another and wonder what happened to their real USA they lived in just a handful of months ago. Other that than realization will come to late and too little. Scared people are easier to control, that’s pretty obvious.
Life is a risk, death is certain. I’ll take the risk for the time being and it really isn’t scary or concerning to me on the CV19 front, although societies response to it gets more concerning everyday.
Never the less, I know this situation is bad for some, and for those, I wish them the best and hope that they will take precautions to protect themselves. The rest of us have a life to live and I chose freedom over “security” (including a false sense thereof).
RUGER
just living the dream
yes, me and my wife did.
several people form work also tested positive. 2 were put on ventilates and the everyone else including me had 'mild symptoms'. everyone that tested positive is back to work and doing good.
RUGER
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Ruger - Not trying to kick a hornet's nest ..... 
But two people at your work went on ventilators ? That's one step from the grave. 
Out of how many that were POTENTIALLY exposed at work ? FWIW I know of three deaths during this time, March to now.. All natural causes attributed by Death Certificate to Covid-19.
But two people at your work went on ventilators ? That's one step from the grave. Out of how many that were POTENTIALLY exposed at work ? FWIW I know of three deaths during this time, March to now.. All natural causes attributed by Death Certificate to Covid-19.
RUGER
just living the dream
im a detention officer(guard, jailer) at a jail. being exposed to anything the likelihood is high.
edit: it seems to hit indians hardest around these parts, most of my jail population is indian.
RUGER
edit: it seems to hit indians hardest around these parts, most of my jail population is indian.
RUGER
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Sterlingfire
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The two that were on vents, what were their symptoms? Do they also have other health issues?
RUGER
just living the dream
not sure of symptoms. they seemed healthy to me. we really dont talk about it.
heck im over weight and out of shape.
heck im over weight and out of shape.
Mattafact
Yellow Skull
I had 102-103 degree fever and "flu-like symptoms" in Feb. When to urgent care where they didn't test for flu but gave me tamaflu and sent me home. Only lasted 2-3 more days, went to bed with a 102 fever and woke up 5 hours later feeling perfectly fine.
I was pretty sure that was actually the beer flu, but the antibody test said otherwise.
Sterlingfire
ignant
Well, the thing is, people were being put on vents before covid, due to various reasons of course, but now it seems that everyone going on a ventilator is because of covid. Doesn't that seem strange?? The same way heart disease and flu deaths went away kind of strange. We're being worked over and conditioned by our government. Unfortunately for us, it's going swimmingly well for them:rolleyes:
Sterlingfire
ignant
My whole family had this between Christmas and February, both immediate and extended. My 5 year old was sick as fuck for 8 days with fever and awful cough. Took her in to the Dr twice. Both times sent home saying it's a virus, but there's nothing we can do but give her Tylenol. I was worried about her this time, but all is well now. We thought for sure it was the flu, especially the symptoms and how easily it went from one person to another. It never really infected 2 people at the same time until my 5 year old got it, i had it at the same time, but breezed through inside 2 days.
Eric
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First, if you do this math on US data the number is 99.95%. Second, you are correct in stating that this number is not the infection survivability % however I would argue that this is a meaningful number which can be interpreted as your chance of becoming infected and then dying.
Alot of hubbub about not much.
Thefishguy77
Part time dumbass
This!
Pretty much my whole town got the pre covid covid in January/February. Nobody died and the few that wemt and got tested came back positive The rest of us thought we somehow hot another kids cold had small fevers. Stayed the fuck home, drank some tussin, are some saltines amd chicken noodle soup, and felt better. Its a bad cold there is no reason to go to thw hospital unless you have a bad high grade fever that wont break. Then sure its probably a good thing to get checked out. My town is very elderly with the average age probably above 65 and nobody died...
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Are you working in or around Holbrook? We may be neighbors...
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I had a bunch of symptoms that aren't common... not sure if I had a fever, I don't own a thermometer. Never took an antibody test either... I know when I am sick though, and it wasn't an overwhelming type of sickness.
Mountain-Dweller
Biden is a puppet
As of Friday the 28th El Dorado County, California has had 2 deaths, out of 951 laboratory confirmed cases
That is a death rate of 0.21%
21 people out of 10,000 die, enough with this shit
That is a death rate of 0.21%
21 people out of 10,000 die, enough with this shit
RUGER
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Yota Up
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Mortality rate is typically quoted in deaths per 1000 or 100,000 so it can be generalized between populations of different sizes. When they say population they don't literally mean the entire population but rather the "statistical population".
Maybe you should learn it.
I never said "literally the entire population", you did.
Look at my post you just quoted, then look at it again, then get it tattooed on your head and stare in the mirror until you see it clearly.
"Mortality rate = deaths/population"
Now go argue with yourself in the mirror and yell at my tattoo.
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Next up. This round will be fun, kids.
We're going to talk about how many people really died from Covid, ok?
Ready? I promise you'll love it.
So we know that most people that get a death cert with Covid on it also have other stuff on the death certificate, like heart attack, cancer, head blow off with 12 gauge, etc.
What if we were to look only the death certificates where Covid was all by itself, and without the other causes of death that really killed them? Any guesses on what that number would look like?
Spoiler alert: CDC just put those numbers out...
We're going to talk about how many people really died from Covid, ok?
Ready? I promise you'll love it.
So we know that most people that get a death cert with Covid on it also have other stuff on the death certificate, like heart attack, cancer, head blow off with 12 gauge, etc.
What if we were to look only the death certificates where Covid was all by itself, and without the other causes of death that really killed them? Any guesses on what that number would look like?
Spoiler alert: CDC just put those numbers out...
Fullsize80cherokee
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Fullsize80cherokee
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yea you’d think this would be a massive news story and a bunch of schools and everything else would immediately go back to complete normalcy..
but I would’ve thought 39 missing kids being found in a trailer in Georgia, USA would’ve been a massive news story too and that happened Thursday or Friday and barely a peep about it.
Rerock
Well-known member
It is all bullshit. Manufactured social re-programming. Beer flu is just a justifiable excuse to change things and people will not question. "Safety" my ass...
Why wasn't SARS a few years ago handled the same way as this? Perhaps 'they' realized it 'could've' been a crisis, and they just 'missed the opportunity', then covid comes along...
Mattafact
Yellow Skull
You're the epidemiologist.
Yeah. Some time ago on the other board, in that huge thread, I noted that in Utah, Sal Lake City, the biggest hits and death were Pacific Islanders. Weird . Are these all big fat people with "hypertension" ? Hypertension is listed a the leading comorbidity in NY state and NYC/