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Rain Gear, Waterproof Shell or Jacket?

Garbage. They're ok for a sprinkle, after a few hours they give up.

Next up was gore-tex BDU shell. It lasts longer than frog togs but still soaks through eventually.


Helly Hanson and Carhartt rubbers are the only things I've found to be truly waterproof.

You'll want to have plenty of merino wool to stay warm. Cotton will get soaked from your sweat and get cold in a hurry.

Pretty much my experience, but Helly Hanson and Carhartt rubbers are not breathable and you will sweat like crazy and still get wet.

Gortex will last about a half day, make sure it's decent quality with sealed seams.
 
I think that the Helly Hansen commercial fishing gear has gotten cheaper in quality over the last 30 years but thats just my comparison of my old gear versus the new gear I've bought in the last 10 years.
 
Question for the ones bashing on frogg toggs. Are you guys using the cheap ones from Walmart?

I have an older set that is awesome, a new set that is cheap. I also have a real nice set that is waders, a jacket, and a winter vest.
 
Tru-Spec’s H2O Gen2 parka. Wear it as a raincoat and you can also zip a liner into it. I paid over $200 for it when it came out and now they’re down around $150 and some places, less.
 
I think that the Helly Hansen commercial fishing gear has gotten cheaper in quality over the last 30 years but thats just my comparison of my old gear versus the new gear I've bought in the last 10 years.
I bought a HH raincoat in 87 that survived for 10 years. The similar replacement didn’t last 3!
 
Outdoor Research raingear for me. Can always find it on a good sale and they have a quality product.
 
OR is another good brand that I forgot about, or it used to be when I lived in CO at the turn of the millenium.
 
I've had good luck with my frogg toggs as emergency rain gear

cheap enough and small enough that they live in the rig, i've only used them a couple of times and they worked great for those situations

idk if i would take them to alaska tho :laughing:
I took mine to Alaska 10 years ago and they did great. Layers under them when needed. Kayaking in Anchorage, glacier tour in Wittier, fishing in Soldotna and off the coast of Homer. I still have them and use them when needed. Granted, I’m not working offshore on a crab ship, but I hate the stiff rubbery stuff that makes everything difficult and just makes you sweat.
 
If you had a hair on your nuts you wouldn't buy from a commie company, thanks.
Yves Chouinard wasn't a commie when he started. He was hand forge-ing pick axes in the back of his van (irate4x4 style) because he realized that straight picks, which were all that was available at the time, didn't work on near verticle ice. He was a visionary and a great climber. I'm sorry that you are too short sighted to see that. Continue on with your blathering about things you know nothing about.
 
Just look at the companies that cater to hunters. Not Under Armor or those fags.
 
Great, I don't currently hunt(haven't since '86 when I was 12). I didn't know that the outdoor crowd was different from the hunting crowd.
 
If you're in a boat, PVC, Grundens, H/H, Carhartt, wont matter much. Beatin brush and and sweating your ass off, wool is the only answer.
 
Yes, way different. You will spend more money with the hunting companies, more than likely. But your principles will be intact. You'll maybe spend $100.00 bucks more. For what? Something you'll buy every 5-10 years. Grudens , Halley Hanson etc. don't go bragging how much they hate Americans like some of the companies mentioned.
 
I understand the Pat hate....I still throw them money from time to time simply because Yves was an amazing person and cut from "our" cloth. I totally understand what his company is, is nothing like he founded in '73.
 
He gave the company to the crazies. People really need to pay attention to where they spend their money. It's your decision to make. You make your own money. Spend it where, when and how you like. But, in the end it does make a difference. I'm not busting your balls, just making a point.
 
Yves Chouinard wasn't a commie when he started. He was hand forge-ing pick axes in the back of his van (irate4x4 style) because he realized that straight picks, which were all that was available at the time, didn't work on near verticle ice. He was a visionary and a great climber. I'm sorry that you are too short sighted to see that. Continue on with your blathering about things you know nothing about.
He was, but he's an old liberal now. :flipoff2:
 
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