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Economic impact from freight rail strike could total $2B per day​

Freight rail trade group, shippers concerned about impacts of potential strike​

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Rail stakeholders are concerned that a possible strike by some union members due to stalled contract negotiations could result in multibillion dollar economic impacts.
The Association of American Railroads estimates that a nationwide shutdown of rail operations could cost $2 billion in lost economic output each day, according to a report released Thursday. AAR reached its conclusions by updating data from a 1992 Federal Railroad Administration econometric study.
AAR, which represents freight and passenger railroads, also said a short-term switch to trucks or barges “would be costly and disruptive,” with an additional 467,000 long-haul trucks needed per day to handle the freight that would have otherwise gone on rail.
“Railroads operate in an intensely competitive transportation marketplace. Firms rarely rely exclusively on rail transportation,” the report said. “Over the long term, most firms that use rail transportation could modify their distribution patterns or production processes so they would not have to use railroads as much as they do today.
“For most of those firms, though, switching on short notice to trucks or barges, or changing their production processes to reduce or eliminate the need for rail service, would, at best, be extremely costly and disruptive. In many cases, it would be completely impractical,” AAR’s report continued.
A new labor deal for union members has been in the works since January 2020, but negotiations between the unions and the railroads had failed to progress. A federal mediation board took up the negotiations but released the parties from those efforts earlier this summer.

The Presidential Emergency Board (PEB) — a three-person board appointed by President Joe Biden that convened in July and August to come up with ways that the unions and railroads could resolve their negotiations impasse — issued recommendations last month that sought to resolve the impasse in negotiations. The recommendations were meant to serve as a jumping off point for a new contract.
As of Thursday, more than a half-dozen unions still need to reach an agreement with U.S. freight railroads over a new contract. While five unions have reached an agreement and have sent that agreement to their members for ratification, some of the larger unions, such as the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen and the International Association of Sheet Metal, Air, Rail and Transportation Workers – Transportation Division, also known as SMART-TD, have yet to reach an agreement with the railroads.
Per the Railway Labor Act, both sides have until midnight on Sept. 16 to come to a consensus; after that, the “cooling-off” period ends and union members could decide to go on strike.
“Like those unions that have already tentatively agreed to the PEB deal, each of the remaining unions can still enter into agreements based on these recommendations,” AAR President Ian Jefferies said in a release for the report. “However, should negotiations fail and result in a work stoppage, Congress must act to implement the PEB recommendations — rewarding employees and stopping unnecessary economic harm and uncertainty for rail customers.”
While AAR examined the potential economic costs, shippers have started to press Congress to intervene should a strike be imminent.
A Thursday letter from the Agricultural Transportation Working Group that was also signed by 31 shippers groups representing agricultural interests “strongly urge Congress to act to avoid significant economic damage to U.S. supply chains and further uncertainty for rail customers.”

“A complete stoppage of the rail system would lead to shutdowns or slowdowns of rail-dependent facilities, resulting in devastating consequences to our national and global food security,” said the letter sent to leaders and members of the U.S. Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee and the U.S. House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee. The letter also noted that a stoppage of rail service could exacerbate existing service issues.
“Leaders around the world are already concerned about food shortages and famine due to drought and geopolitical challenges, such as the invasion of Ukraine, which accounts for 10% of the global exports of wheat. A freight rail stoppage would occur as America’s farmers harvest their crops and would exacerbate global food insecurity and likely contribute to further geopolitical instability in regions that experience famine. Congress must be willing to act to ensure our farmers and ranchers can continue to help feed the world,” the letter continued.
The National Retail Federation also sent a letter Thursday addressed to the majority and minority leaders of the House and Senate expressing its concern about a potential disruption in rail service.
“If the parties do not reach conclusion of their negotiations, we encourage Congress to implement the recommendations of the PEB to avoid any kind of disruption that will create further strain on the supply chain,” said the letter signed by David French, NRF’s senior vice president of government relations.
The letter continued, “Our nation’s retailers continue to meet strong consumer demand despite continued supply chain challenges. The goods and services tied to retailers are a key part of needed economic growth — despite various economic headwinds — and they require continued improvements and fluidity in the supply chain. … If the remaining unions do not agree to a deal by Sept. 16, there is real concern for a strike that could shut down the system.”
 
We were just discussing this at work, sounds like MRL doesn't have a contract negotiation going right now so I'm hoping we work a deal on a couple coal trains while they don't have any through Montana freight going.
 
They push this shit and someone will go pinkerton on their asses. Everyones getting tired of the bullshit.
 
It will be over in 2 days... Why? They will be ordered back to work by the .gov.

How?

If they don't return, that would be the equivalent of resigning. The contract negotiations would be retroactive to the end of the last contract, which was something like 3 years ago. That's an awful lot of back-pay on the table to keep them going to work without a ratified contract.
 
It will be over in 2 days... Why? They will be ordered back to work by the .gov.

How?

If they don't return, that would be the equivalent of resigning. The contract negotiations would be retroactive to the end of the last contract, which was something like 3 years ago. That's an awful lot of back-pay on the table to keep them going to work without a ratified contract.
Shrug, lots of people resigning these days, go get another job on their terms, do you blame them?
 
They already got this subcontractor, Halcon I believe running up and down the local rail yard coupling cars. They sure can hustle compared to the BNSF boys and there Grand Wagoneers look swanky.
 
Just checked the news. No word on any strike. What happened?

Also the news is clogged with The Queen and Orange Man. So it could be buried.
 
Two of the largest railroad unions in negotiations with railroad carriers have drawn a line in the sand: they are demanding more quality of life provisions are put into the contract, covering attendance policies, vacation and sick days, or they will strike.
Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen and the SMART Transportation Division represent half of railroad union workers.

Eight out of the 12 unions have reached tentative agreements with the railroad carriers, according to the National Carriers’ Conference Committee. They did not negotiate the quality of life provisions, sources familiar with the negotiations tell CNBC. The unions have what is called, “Me Too” agreements, which means whatever benefits the BLET and the SMART unions agree to in their contract with the carriers, other unions’ members receive.
“If this contract is presented to our members in its current form, it will not pass,” said a labor spokesperson to CNBC. “The workers are angry. They want movement on attendance policies and not be afraid to take a sick day or vacation day without the fear of termination. There will be no ratification unless this is addressed.”
A railroad spokesperson told CNBC they would not comment on ongoing negotiations, but stressed, “The railroads remain in active discussions with the unions that have not yet reached tentative agreements and will continue making every effort to reach agreements based on the PEB recommendations.”
In July, President Biden appointed a Presidential Emergency Board in hopes of averting a strike and making recommendations that rails and labor unions could agree on.
Attendance policies and staffing have been a point of contention over the last two years of this negotiation. Over 700 union workers quit after BNSF, a wholly owned subsidiary of Berkshire Hathaway, instituted a points-based attendance system in February. The system was revised in May but union workers say the modifications did not fix the safety issues calling it “brutal.” Labor sources tell CNBC employees would be penalized for taking a day off to go to their parent’s funeral.

The railroad has contended that the new policy is critical to making sure it has enough workers available for its trains. Rails have faced scrutiny for worsening service from unions, shippers and regulators.
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A maintenance-of-way worker walks alongside a segment of newly laid railroad track on the Burlington Northern Santa Fe (BNSF) Railway Co. Southern Transcontinental line in Alva, Oklahoma, U.S., on Wednesday, Aug. 19, 2015.
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“The railroad has brought its labor woes on itself,” said a labor insider with knowledge of the negotiations. “They have made steep staffing cuts to appease shareholders and improve their bottom line. Workers are burned out. You have heard from the railroads they are hiring but they are not retaining talent because of the point system where you are on call for 12 hours a day and you have to be an hour or less away from your job. They are being held hostage.”
While rails say they have been hiring aggressively amid the supply chain struggles, the U.S. Surface Transportation Board has reported the largest freight railroads in the U.S. have reduced their workforce by 29 percent in the last six years.
Around 40 percent of the nation’s long-distance trade is moved by rail, more than any other form of transportation. If the unions strike, more than 7,000 trains would be idled and the rail industry has estimated it would cost the economy up to $2 billion per day.
The American Trucking Associations wrote a letter to Congress urging action — as have several other industry groups representing sectors including retail and agriculture — and noting that a current trucker shortage makes it difficult for the industry to handle more freight.
“Idling all 7,000 long distance daily freight trains in the U.S. would require more than 460,000 additional long-haul trucks every day, which is not possible based on equipment availability and an existing shortage of 80,000 drivers,” said ATA President and CEO Chris Spear in the letter. “As such, any rail service disruption will create havoc in the supply chain and fuel inflationary pressures across the board.”

Railroads begin emergency freight measures​

Starting today, the railroads are securing and managing security-sensitive freight and hazmat cargo such as chlorine used by public water departments to purify drinking and chemicals used in fertilizers in the event of a strike. Norfolk Southern issued an alert to customers on the measures.
“We have communicated to our customers that we will temporarily halt certain types of shipments beginning September 12. In addition, to safely ramp down our network and enable us to bring service back quickly, certain other customers will see a preliminary curtailment of service before September 16.”
The American Association of Railroads says the carriers are following federal regulations.
“Operational changes required to prepare for a safe, orderly suspension were delayed as long as possible,” a railroad spokesman wrote in an email to CNBC. “With less than a week away from a potential service interruption, carriers are obligated to take appropriate actions to prepare, which include making plans for handling HAZMAT shipments, as well as other freight that may be impacted if service must be reduced or stopped. Notification to customers is an essential part of that contingency planning.”
The spokesman added that railroads do not believe a national service interruption is inevitable, “but the time has arrived when certain customers will begin to be impacted if agreements are not reached.”
A rail labor union spokesperson told CNBC, “The railroads cannot legally lock us out so they are resorting to the extortion of the shippers. Impacting the supply chain so the shippers will go to Congress demanding intervention. Congress must not cave.”

Will Congress intervene?​

The last time Congress intervened was in 1992 after the machinists union struck CSX in a dispute over a new labor contract. Then U.S. President George Herbert Walker Bush called on Congress to act quickly. President Bush signed the return to work bill after the two-day strike shut down nationwide railroad freight service.
“These self-appointed titans of industry complain constantly about government regulation and interference — except now when it comes to breaking the backs of their employees,” the BLET, which is affiliated with the Teamsters, and the SMART Transportation Division said in a statement. “It’s time for the federal government to tell the CEOs who are running the nation’s railroads into the ground that enough is enough. Congress should stay out of the rail dispute and tell the railroads to do what other business leaders do — sit down and bargain a contract that your employees will accept.”
CNBC was told by both the railroads and labor unions negotiations will continue Monday. The unions can strike on Friday.
Correction: Eight out of the 12 unions have reached tentative agreements with the railroad carriers, according to the National Carriers’ Conference Committee.
 
Replace em with workers from China.

Not like it hasn't been done before.
Too far; this administration will probably open up the borders more and invite workers from Mexico. Then give them free healthcare, subsidized housing, and free college education to their children. And we’ll foot the bill.
 
Too far; this administration will probably open up the borders more and invite workers from Mexico. Then give them free healthcare, subsidized housing, and free college education to their children. And we’ll foot the bill.
i just had a buddy that went to turkey and hired about 30 welders. they tested about 100 of them, 6g. its under some government program, sounded pretty fucked up to me. but they are importing them.
 
i just had a buddy that went to turkey and hired about 30 welders. they tested about 100 of them, 6g. its under some government program, sounded pretty fucked up to me. but they are importing them.
I thought the Germans had dibs in the Turks?
 
We have the technology to replace a big portion of these people, this will help move that along.
Sure and apparently BNSF just had a head on crash with one of their remote operating locomotives. Coal train
 
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