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Questions for the Weightlifters

ThePanzerFuhrer said:
5x5 bench press 125# 5x5 squat 165#

2x30 each arm kettle bell snatch
2x30 kettle bell swing

Then as many pull ups I can do to finish 3-4

I want to add some dead lifts but want to get one of those I think they are called trap bars so I can make sure my posture is better.

1 day a week I hit heavy bag for 45 mins

2 days a week are 1 hour boxing classes

1 day a week a hour of sparring

I try to get one day of a 45 min slow run in

Then one day during the week gets a Hiit run in for 45 mins.

My running has been slacking I need to get outside by 5:30 or so this time a year so it has been getting neglected. My wife starts her run at 5:00 so I would have to get up and do it before her or like in the winter I jump on after her.
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Are you adding weight to the bench and squat everyweek? How much more weight could you add if you dropped two sets and just did 3 sets of 5?

The kettlebell stuff you’re doing is basically just inefficient cardio and you’re getting lots of cardio already. I’d ditch it and do 3 sets of 5 overhead press.
 
Well been getting back in the swing of things. Limited equipment but that’s not a valid excuse. I do have a bowflex so I use that some. Have a bar and some plates. Doing pushups, steps with knee thrust, slow paced burpees, still rehabbing the knee. I have started using the leg attachment on the bowflex to get my quads and hamstrings back in shape from all the atrophy of the knee injury.

At the moment its resisted curls with the rest arm at full curl, seated rows, triceps extensions, lots of crunches, sit ups and flutter kicks, lots of pushups and as many burpees as I can do, 3 days a week and quad and hamstrings 4-5 days a week (low weights high reps). And walking a mile or 2 4-5 days a week. Still digging the hamburger for breakfast and throwing an egg on it a few days a week.

Wanting to get a good protein shake. Looking at Jacko Fuel, Molk as it’s supposed to be made and sourced here. Anyone have any feed back on that stuff or what they would recommend over it. Trying to stay away from anything China.
 
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Thefishguy77 said:
Wanting to get a good protein shake. Looking at Jacko Fuel, Molk as it’s supposed to be made and sourced here. Anyone have any feed back on that stuff or what they would recommend over it. Trying to stay away from anything China.
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I've tried the more expensive stuff, but keep going back to the Optimum Nutrition gold standard whey from Costco. Tastes great, dissolves in warm as well as cold, made in USA from USA milk.

Pro tip, always get vanilla then you can make it whatever flavor you want. :smokin:
 
RusM said:
I've tried the more expensive stuff, but keep going back to the Optimum Nutrition gold standard whey from Costco. Tastes great, dissolves in warm as well as cold, made in USA from USA milk.

Pro tip, always get vanilla then you can make it whatever flavor you want. :smokin:
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Apparently costcos site is currently down. Idea on the price?
 
Gbkeith said:
Are you adding weight to the bench and squat everyweek? How much more weight could you add if you dropped two sets and just did 3 sets of 5?

The kettlebell stuff you’re doing is basically just inefficient cardio and you’re getting lots of cardio already. I’d ditch it and do 3 sets of 5 overhead press.
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This,

No need for that much volume at your current strength level. Your still a novice. Less is more right now for getting stronger. Trying going up 10 lbs on squat next week and drop to 3x5. Don't be afraid to grind on squat & deadlift. You will surprise yourself. X2 on the standing press also. massive "core" workout in addition to the obvious shoulder/arms etc
 
Projectjunkie said:
Maybe just do light weights high reps
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Ain't nobody got time for that!

High weight low reps give you better hypertrophy and a better cardio effect.
Provience said:
;laughing:

Dang, missed all the hate for the sumo! I'm over 6' tall, sumo feels way better on my hips for dead lift. It's a whole free stretch and it makes the bar not so far away as a bonus.

Are you one of them short people that gets a 1/4 lift when doing sumo?

Also I don't pick up heavy things, so that also keeps the pressure down
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I'm 6'4 and I squat with a straight bar. If I use a trap bar I don't use the cheaters. If your having trouble with form try doing single leg rdl's or Bulgarian split squats to improve at lighter weight.

Don't forget to hang for a minute or 2 after to help your spine.
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
5x5 bench press 125# 5x5 squat 165#

2x30 each arm kettle bell snatch
2x30 kettle bell swing

Then as many pull ups I can do to finish 3-4

I want to add some dead lifts but want to get one of those I think they are called trap bars so I can make sure my posture is better.

1 day a week I hit heavy bag for 45 mins

2 days a week are 1 hour boxing classes

1 day a week a hour of sparring

I try to get one day of a 45 min slow run in

Then one day during the week gets a Hiit run in for 45 mins.

My running has been slacking I need to get outside by 5:30 or so this time a year so it has been getting neglected. My wife starts her run at 5:00 so I would have to get up and do it before her or like in the winter I jump on after her.
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Don't forget to add weight every work out. Also, whenever a weight is moving by its momentum (swings, snatches) your risking injury. Controlled movements are best.
 
Ill put a vote in for ON (Optimum Nutrition). Mixes well with water, milk, almond milk, you name it. Taste good but isnt overpowering (unless you pick one of the oddball flavors...but thats all opinion anyways). Ive tried all the less expensive brands in an attempt to save money...but they dont taste as good and I intake way less protein as Im not as amped to drink it post workout
 
Will12785 said:
Ain't nobody got time for that!

High weight low reps give you better hypertrophy and a better cardio effect.

I'm 6'4 and I squat with a straight bar. If I use a trap bar I don't use the cheaters. If your having trouble with form try doing single leg rdl's or Bulgarian split squats to improve at lighter weight.

Don't forget to hang for a minute or 2 after to help your spine...
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I can do them normal with a straight bar, just prefer not to :rasta:

One of the dudes I work with is much stronger and younger than me. He was giving me grief about not doing 3 plates after he saw me do sets at 265.

Tried normal and sumo goofy and overhand grip, couldn't do anything but take weight off the bar. :laughing: I'm not here to get big anymore. Maybe when I retire, but probably not.
 
Burns said:
Ill put a vote in for ON (Optimum Nutrition). Mixes well with water, milk, almond milk, you name it. Taste good but isnt overpowering (unless you pick one of the oddball flavors...but thats all opinion anyways). Ive tried all the less expensive brands in an attempt to save money...but they dont taste as good and I intake way less protein as Im not as amped to drink it post workout
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Same

Shit done got expensive tho, thanks .gov
 
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Walmart has it too, 1.5lb for $22? Iirc
 
Texas97 said:
According to my orthopedic surgeon friend all that's good for is making you shit. Enjoy your runs and toilet squats :flipoff2:
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Maybe he should get that looked at, he can intake some of my bacteria if he wants I guess. I've been drinking it on and off for 8 or so years:homer:
 
Projectjunkie said:
Maybe he should get that looked at, he can intake some of my bacteria if he wants I guess. I've been drinking it on and off for 8 or so years:homer:
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It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they have been fooled.

I used to take it too. And then honestly evaluated that it did nothing nutritionally. I'll take the word of a doctor of 30 years for a pro basketball team and was for a pro football team for a time also . You can do you Scotty P. Rojectjunkie
 
Texas97 said:
According to my orthopedic surgeon friend all that's good for is making you shit. Enjoy your runs and toilet squats :flipoff2:
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Funny, it's helped me out a lot. I average 200g of protein a day and shit less doing so.

I use a different whey protein powder and generally only do 1 or 2 shakes a day.

Not sure why you're taking nutrition advice from a foot surgeon but you do you. Check out this guy for info from a PhD that's studied this stuff: https://youtube.com/@biolayne1?feature=shared

You might be surprised how little nutrition info MDs get in their education. Maybe a semester or two of basic info. That's not their wheelhouse.
 
Texas97 said:
It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they have been fooled.

I used to take it too. And then honestly evaluated that it did nothing nutritionally. I'll take the word of a doctor of 30 years for a pro basketball team and was for a pro football team for a time also . You can do you Scotty P. Rojectjunkie
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It can't do "nothing nutritionally" if it contains calories and protein. I think you mean you don't need it to be healthy and make gains. which is true.
 
Texas97 said:
According to my orthopedic surgeon friend all that's good for is making you shit. Enjoy your runs and toilet squats :flipoff2:
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Been using it for years, it's cheap and doesn't taste terrible, when I was doing more competing I won a bunch of different ones and really couldn't tell a difference other taste.

Also I workout with a couple of Orthos and honestly I'm not even sure I would take their advice on working out (I'm pretty confident in their ability to fix me though):flipoff2:
 
Yes, listening to the Internet instead of a real doctor. That's exactly what IBB is about. Y'all can continue to do your protein shakes if you like them.

Rooney77 maybe your Crohn's has something to do with how your body reacts and processes this excess protein whey?


And no he's not a foot guy. Shoulder, elbow, knees. Sports injuries for sports teams, high school, college and pros. Not a dietitian but I trust his judgement over the guy at GNC.
 
Texas97 said:
Yes, listening to the Internet instead of a real doctor. That's exactly what IBB is about. Y'all can continue to do your protein shakes if you like them.

Rooney77 maybe your Crohn's has something to do with how your body reacts and processes this excess protein whey?


And no he's not a foot guy. Shoulder, elbow, knees. Sports injuries for sports teams, high school, college and pros. Not a dietitian but I trust his judgement over the guy at GNC.
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Ask him point blank how many nutrition classes he took.

Then go look at the resume of the guy I shared. If after that you don't see the value in listening to others then so be it.

I assure you, your doc has no where near the knowledge or educational background of the guy I posted.

If you want to bury your head in the sand, so be it. I'll not try to convince you otherwise.


I'm far from the only person it's helping. Crohns is in remission by the way. So it's having little to no effect on my nutritional absorption at the moment.

There's way too much research on protein and muscle building for me to believe what an orthopedic surgeon thinks. It's not his area of expertise, nor is it mine. But I'll follow my own research and experience and you follow yours.
 
I recently had a mental shit on lifting. I went normally lift feb-May so I’m ready for spring/summer activities around the house. I’m moving to a sustained life style to keep my strength up as I age. All age related concerns so I’m not useless in my 50’s and 60’s.

So my goal is consistent/lifestyle. I have not been resting enough. Muscle and joint Tired each day and still working out. At over 40, 5 days a week isn’t working.

Going to
Monday/Thursday back/shoulder/bicep
Wednesday light rowing only
Tuesday/Friday chest/Triceps/legs

I’m hoping the Wed just being light cardio with Sat/Sun off will give my body the break it’s asking for.

I’ll know in a month.
 
Poke said:
I recently had a mental shit on lifting. I went normally lift feb-May so I’m ready for spring/summer activities around the house. I’m moving to a sustained life style to keep my strength up as I age. All age related concerns so I’m not useless in my 50’s and 60’s.

So my goal is consistent/lifestyle. I have not been resting enough. Muscle and joint Tired each day and still working out. At over 40, 5 days a week isn’t working.

Going to
Monday/Thursday back/shoulder/bicep
Wednesday light rowing only
Tuesday/Friday chest/Triceps/legs

I’m hoping the Wed just being light cardio with Sat/Sun off will give my body the break it’s asking for.

I’ll know in a month.
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I started lifting to regain symmetry after my stroke and ended up liking it. I've found doing 1hr full body workouts 3 times a week is best for me at 45. Not too time consuming, I'm constantly gaining strength and if I miss a day because life, that's fine because I've already hit everything at least twice.

Splits kill me. It's too much volume and I end up weaker, sore, less mobility and spend too much time getting to that point.

Check out mind pump anabolic. It's a program. 3 phases at 3 weeks each. They have a lot of other programs but thats the one I use most. Can also check out their YouTube to get a good feel for their approach to things.
 
Poke said:
I recently had a mental shit on lifting. I went normally lift feb-May so I’m ready for spring/summer activities around the house. I’m moving to a sustained life style to keep my strength up as I age. All age related concerns so I’m not useless in my 50’s and 60’s.

So my goal is consistent/lifestyle. I have not been resting enough. Muscle and joint Tired each day and still working out. At over 40, 5 days a week isn’t working.

Going to
Monday/Thursday back/shoulder/bicep
Wednesday light rowing only
Tuesday/Friday chest/Triceps/legs

I’m hoping the Wed just being light cardio with Sat/Sun off will give my body the break it’s asking for.

I’ll know in a month.
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Check out strong lifts 5x5 it's a good schedule to follow that will help you as you get started. You can start right at an empty bar and build over 6 months then you'll have a good foundation to build off of.

Also, have you had a Dr check your testosterone?
 
Rooney77 said:
Funny, it's helped me out a lot. I average 200g of protein a day and shit less doing so.

I use a different whey protein powder and generally only do 1 or 2 shakes a day.

Not sure why you're taking nutrition advice from a foot surgeon but you do you. Check out this guy for info from a PhD that's studied this stuff: https://youtube.com/@biolayne1?feature=shared

You might be surprised how little nutrition info MDs get in their education. Maybe a semester or two of basic info. That's not their wheelhouse.
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I don’t agree with all docs are dumb about nutrition. That being said, all my nutrition info was harvested outside of school. So there is that. I get a giggle from listening to most people posing as nutritionalists as they are so far off base.

That being said, the link to the guy you posted is legit. I really like him. There are a couple others that are really good too.
 
Will12785 said:
Check out strong lifts 5x5 it's a good schedule to follow that will help you as you get started. You can start right at an empty bar and build over 6 months then you'll have a good foundation to build off of.

Also, have you had a Dr check your testosterone?
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I get my bloodwork every 6 months. Not sure if testosterone is on it. I’ll check.

I was a young gym rat, event competition lifting in high school. Then college sport with a trainer and lifting. I got away from it in my late 20’s and 30’s.

Fortunately I don’t need 101 form or routine help. Unfortunately I need the staying power to not stop again.
 
Will12785 said:
Check out strong lifts 5x5 it's a good schedule to follow that will help you as you get started. You can start right at an empty bar and build over 6 months then you'll have a good foundation to build off of.

Also, have you had a Dr check your testosterone?
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70 and 555 T from a few months ago
 
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