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Weasel said:

US unveils solar energy plan for western public lands

The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) on Wednesday announced an update to its 2012 plan for solar power development in the western U.S., adding five states to the
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WTF, we can't use it but it's okay to plant solar panels on it. :flipoff::shaking:
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I think you've got that backwards.

Gonna be a lot of "We planted solar panels on it, so you can't use it."
 
subybaja said:
I think you've got that backwards.

Gonna be a lot of "We planted solar panels on it, so you can't use it."
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No I mean the mass land closures BLM is planning for removing roads becuase they are not "used" enough. But now gonna plant solar panels all over them. Love to see the EIS on those projects. :shaking: asshats.
 
Probably be levels to this scam. Long term leases then sublets in the guise of solar land management, then solar companies get to get rich too.

Ever seen how much chainlink fence gets put up around these solar fields? The amount of clearing it takes to put one in and mowing/poisoning of weeds and underbrush to keep it going?

An RV park we stayed at long term had a very large Solar farm near it. Mowers and poison tanks were running near daily to keep the weeds and grass beat down near and under the panels.
 
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Lots of shady fuckery going on in June of 2023.

Canadian company is leading the charge. Recurrent Energy is owned by Canadian Solar. Recurrent Energy rebranded in June 2023. Canadian Solar stood up a new solar manufacturing company in China in June 2023, CSI Solar Ltd. Seems Canada and China along with our government will get rich from our public lands.

ABOUT US – Canadian Solar – Global

Canadiansolar
www.canadiansolar.com
 
Wonder if there is a negative effect to the natural plant growth on the ground when it's denied the sun or natural rainfall pattern by having a panel over it.
 
Yota Up said:
Wonder if there is a negative effect to the natural plant growth on the ground when it's denied the sun or natural rainfall pattern by having a panel over it.
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This solar shit and wind farms destroys some of the most pristine land. Fucking NJ (yeah it sucks) peeps don't want off-shore wind farms.

BLM: Yeah we will close the trails and in a few years we will sell it off for solar..... FUCK YOU!:mad3::mad3::mad3::mad3:
 
Yota Up said:
Wonder if there is a negative effect to the natural plant growth on the ground when it's denied the sun or natural rainfall pattern by having a panel over it.
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We just put in 10 acres of solar field at work and even though it would result in better output we left it at natural grass for erosion control. The pain in the ass part is you either have to be very selective and spray out taller grasses and weeds or cut it back. Apparently grazing solar fields with goats is a thing but they are destructive so I'm not sure I want to find out if our install is goat proof or not.

As far as who will benefit that easy: the same people already extracting energy from public lands: energy (read oil) companies. They have massive cash reserves, great access to credit, and already play in the market. Not to mention they need to eventually replace that oil revenue with sweet sweet sunlight money.

Also the Feds need to keep the royalty money from resource extraction going. I think it's like the 3rd largest source of income for the US government behind taxes and Fed lending.
 
This has already happened in the Mojave desert in so cal. I drive by it going to the hammers every year. It’s funny (not) because when I lived in CA, I’d go out to the Mojave desert and there was pressure on closures to OHV because of the desert tortoise. Supposedly we were destroying the desert tortoises land….fast forward 15 years, fencing, digging up the small amount of vegetation out there and putting up solar farms is NOT hurting the desert tortoise’s habitat like us evil OHV users were :shaking:
 
Yota Up said:
Wonder if there is a negative effect to the natural plant growth on the ground when it's denied the sun or natural rainfall pattern by having a panel over it.
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Ever leave a piece of plywood in the yard laying on the ground for a couple of weeks?
 
SomeGuyFromOlympia said:
Ever leave a piece of plywood in the yard laying on the ground for a couple of weeks?
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Exactly that, and even if that board was up off the ground like a solar panel. 2-3 months ago I put up a tent for my dogs in the side yard for the rare time they are locked up if people come to visit and stay for half a day while it's raining(dogs never used it). The area beneath the tent is now dead. Everywhere else it's green and lush. The edges have some growth creeping in but the inside of that square is bone dead. I imagine if I didn't take it down and left it there for years, I'd turn that square into concrete.

Maybe there's a need for new stuff to grow, die off, dry up, go back to dirt, and regrow. If you put an end to that process, I suspect it won't be good down the road.

Liberal agenda with these solar fields: In your fantasy quest to save the world, you may actually be killing it.
Are you killing 10x the amount of acres to create the same amount of energy as a coal mine?
 
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Probably ties into this: BRC - BREAKING NEWS: BRC Supports Withdrawal of Securities and Exchange Commission Rule that Would Privatize Public Land

I also saw a quote from John "I don't own a private jet but my wife does and I occasionally fly on it, but that has nothing to do with climate change" Kerry the "United states" climate czar where he was saying carbon markets are going to surpass the NYSE in marker cap. I bet solar projects like these are one of the many ways they plan to do that.

It's either private land or it's not IMO. If you want to put solar projects up on public land then sell the land. I'm sick of this public private partnership bullshit where all the taxpayers assume all the risk and get none of the profit.
 
06h3 said:
This has already happened in the Mojave desert in so cal. I drive by it going to the hammers every year. It’s funny (not) because when I lived in CA, I’d go out to the Mojave desert and there was pressure on closures to OHV because of the desert tortoise. Supposedly we were destroying the desert tortoises land….fast forward 15 years, fencing, digging up the small amount of vegetation out there and putting up solar farms is NOT hurting the desert tortoise’s habitat like us evil OHV users were :shaking:
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Same thing around Vegas. Primm race had all kinds of restrictions and remediation requirements. But now there going to build an airport there. South side of Vegas heading towards bolder city. Miles of desert tortoise habitat bladed flat and covered with panels. The greens hypocrisy knows no bounds.
 
This shit is going on all over Texas and I promise you it's not Democrats that are in charge of it...

There is enough land out west though to cover in panels and no one give a fuck. I'm sure someone would for the two peckered water salamander or some shit but really no one cares about West Texas, the cows might like the shade.
 
CarterKraft said:
This shit is going on all over Texas and I promise you it's not Democrats that are in charge of it...

There is enough land out west though to cover in panels and no one give a fuck. I'm sure someone would for the two peckered water salamander or some shit but really no one cares about West Texas, the cows might like the shade.
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I worked W TX oilfields for June and July 2019 and you are 100 percent correct about W TX.
 
given what i see popping up on blm/gov land around my place here in Jv, its a matter of time maybe months till i see this crap popping up. tons of testing and bs going on next to me. im one of the last private lots on BLM/GOV/State land edge. totally BS
 
Weasel said:

US unveils solar energy plan for western public lands

The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) on Wednesday announced an update to its 2012 plan for solar power development in the western U.S., adding five states to the
ground.news

WTF, we can't use it but it's okay to plant solar panels on it. :flipoff::shaking:
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Solar pays back. We don't. "Charge those wheelin' assholes lots of money to wheel on public land!" Uh oh, found the problem :frown:
 
CarterKraft said:
This shit is going on all over Texas and I promise you it's not Democrats that are in charge of it...

There is enough land out west though to cover in panels and no one give a fuck. I'm sure someone would for the two peckered water salamander or some shit but really no one cares about West Texas, the cows might like the shade.
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The difference is that that's not public land.
 
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