Price gouging

[Steve300xcw]

What happens when you don’t have the money to pay the markup?

Since when were you everybody else's responsibility?

 

[clodhopper]

What happens when you don’t have the money to pay the markup?

Guess I’ll just go die, but thank fuck the rich guy down the street had the cash to pay for it so the guy who sold it can make some profit.

Offer the dickbag what you have and if he says no, go seek out the next dickbag who has what you need. Oh, and make sure you flood social media with crybaby stories about how much of a nazi the first dickbag is so you garner a whole boatload of "thoughts and prayers" to live on.

 

[animator]

Offer the dickbag what you have and if he says no, go seek out the next dickbag who has what you need. Oh, and make sure you flood social media with crybaby stories about how much of a nazi the first dickbag is so you garner a whole boatload of "thoughts and prayers" to live on.

My house has washed away, including all of my electronic belongings. I have literally nothing to offer. Guess I'll just go and die, and dickbag can go make a profit off the guy who didn't lose everything..

 

[animator]

Hlf you


Since when were you everybody else's responsibility?

When did I say or imply such a thing?

 

[IowaOffRoad]

What happens when you don’t have the money to pay the markup?

Guess I’ll just go die, but thank fuck the rich guy down the street had the cash to pay for it so the guy who sold it can make some profit.

Before all the socialist programs, before all the government interference, do you think people just died?

Price fixing didn't save nobody in the 30s or 40s, didn't save anyone in the 70s, and won't save anyone today. What saves people is a sense of community and you not being the type of asshole that the community will just let die.

 

[animator]

Before all the socialist programs, before all the government interference, do you think people just died?

Price fixing didn't save nobody in the 30s or 40s, didn't save anyone in the 70s, and won't save anyone today. What saves people is a sense of community and you not being the type of asshole that the community will just let die.

No, people actually helped people, much like you're saying. That's pretty much the same way I feel about it and don't think I've said anything to the contrary. People helping people is good. People swooping in to take advantage of people in a shit situation they didn't bring on themselves is major dickbag.

 

[IowaOffRoad]

No, people actually helped people, much like you're saying. That's pretty much the same way I feel about it and don't think I've said anything to the contrary. People helping people is good. People swooping in to take advantage of people in a shit situation they didn't bring on themselves is major dickbag.

Legislating against people taking advantage is no different than legislating against guns when someone uses our rights to have them in a bad way.

Never let a crisis go to waste.

 

[animator]

Legislating against people taking advantage is no different than legislating against guns when someone uses our rights to have them in a bad way.

Never let a crisis go to waste.

Don't think I've ever mentioned legislation in this discussion.

 

[clodhopper]

My house has washed away, including all of my electronic belongings. I have literally nothing to offer. Guess I'll just go and die, and dickbag can go make a profit off the guy who didn't lose everything..

If you have nothing, then what do you care if someone is gouging? You cant pay the regular price. What you want is a free handout. That is a different thread.

 

[Archer]

This is a very interesting and telling thread and may not age well for some.

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[[486]]

This is a very interesting and telling thread and may not age well for some.

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omg I'm so scared
being held to task for preaching the most simple moral codex imaginable

rofl

 

[arse_sidewards]

you realize that free market isn't always pretty... and there's no such thing as "excess profit." There is only expense and capital.

Gets kinda messy when you have government monopoly on violence distorting things though. Tons of slimy shit only works because the blue thugs won't tolerate other people engaging in thuggery and the cost of dragging shit through court tends to prevent anyone with a life from suing over anything less than five digits.

 

[Lawless]

What if?

Let's say I have a truck load of generators and I show up selling them for 4X what I paid for them BUT I am using the profit to buy more critical supplies to just give away to those in need.

Dickbag or no dickbag?

 

[[486]]

Gets kinda messy when you have government monopoly on violence distorting things though. Tons of slimy shit only works because the blue thugs won't tolerate other people engaging in thuggery and the cost of dragging shit through court tends to prevent anyone with a life from suing over anything less than five digits.

I'd say something closer to 'won't tolerate people offering an alternative to the chosen thugs'

because there isn't any room for coercion in capitalism, yet it attracts state violence like nothing else

 

[[486]]

Dickbag or no dickbag?

you'll be killed and eaten by a hatian named barbecue while easty cackles

 

[animator]

If you have nothing, then what do you care if someone is gouging? You cant pay the regular price. What you want is a free handout. That is a different thread.

We’re talking hypothetical dude, so no reason to be pedantic.

My point is simply that some here are apparently ok watching a stranger’s family member die because they can’t afford the item someone is selling for the sole purpose of turning a profit during a time of emergency. And that’s very unfortunate, but I guess profit always trumps humanitarian.

Some of those people are truly in need of a handout right now, and I can’t honestly fault them for it given the circumstances.

 

[rockota]

My point is simply that some here are apparently ok watching a stranger’s family member die because they can’t afford the item

Pretty sure the ONLY person to mentioned an interest in someone dying is east_beast .

 

[animator]

Pretty sure the ONLY person to mentioned an interest in someone dying is east_beast .

I dunno man, there’s a lot of defending the price gougers because of muh profits going on around here.

 

[[486]]

I dunno man, there’s a lot of defending the price gouges because of muh profits going on around here.

charity is a parallel market

 

[rockota]

I dunno man, there’s a lot of defending the price gouges because of muh profits going on around here.

There is defending of free market. And a lot of people pulling the “y’all want to kill people for profit.”

Not one person defending the free market has suggested that charity shouldn’t be the first choice. But neither are they, unlike others, suggesting that people should be hurt or killed for engaging in simple supply and demand situation.

 

[IowaOffRoad]

I dunno man, there’s a lot of defending the price gougers because of muh profits going on around here.

YOU
Stop judging others actions.
YOU
want to help, or not, do so.

You get no points for telling others how they should respond unless YOU are going to do something. You go haul resources into those areas and charge what you want, or give it away for all anyone here gives a shit. That’s your choice.

Bernie defended bread lines because “at least there is bread “ ignores the fact that bread lines, at least ones that are persistent over time, are Always the result of government market intervention.

 

[[486]]

to explain what I mean by parallel market... I'm kind of a retard so bear with me

there's the first-line market for whatever good or service which is the one with the most volume, then there's a bunch of parallel ones
"the black market" is many of these parallel markets, when the state controls the main one

One of these parallel markets is the one of charity, which is kinda an outlier since demand pretty much always outstrips supply.
Supply in that market increases when people have all they need and can waffle about looking for something to do with their lives other than provide for their immediate needs.

What is the best way to guarantee people will accumulate capital, provide for their own needs and therefore become more charitable in time? Free market capitalism.
What is the best way to guarantee people will consume their capital, live hand-to-mouth and therefore become more centered on their own daily needs? Statist collectivism.

 

[animator]

There is defending of free market. And a lot of people pulling the “y’all want to kill people for profit.”

Not one person defending the free market has suggested that charity shouldn’t be the first choice. But neither are they, unlike others, suggesting that people should be hurt or killed for engaging in simple supply and demand situation.

I got nothing against the free market, but anyone going out there with the intention of turning a quick buck is a dickbag, and there’s nothing anyone will ever be able to say that will change my mind on that.

 

[[486]]

I got nothing against the free market, but anyone going out there with the intention of turning a quick buck is a dickbag, and there’s nothing anyone will ever be able to say that will change my mind on that.

I just don't understand this position at all, since all they're doing is increasing supply of goods which will drive prices down.
If they don't show up with their ""overpriced"" goods then the price will only rise, since supply will not have increased.

 

[animator]

YOU
Stop judging others actions.
YOU
want to help, or not, do so.

You get no points for telling others how they should respond unless YOU are going to do something. You go haul resources into those areas and charge what you want, or give it away for all anyone here gives a shit. That’s your choice.

Bernie defended bread lines because “at least there is bread “ ignores the fact that bread lines, at least ones that are persistent over time, are Always the result of government market intervention.

I’ll judge the actions of others all I want. If you go there to profit from the suffering of others, you’re a dickbag, and that’s the end of it.

Best I can do is offer up a cash donation from the comfort of my dry couch in my powered living room. Some here might say that’s an example of from each according to their ability to each according to their need, and that’s ok in my opinion, given this situation.

 

[rockota]

I’ll judge the actions of others all I want. If you go there to profit from the suffering of others, you’re a dickbag, and that’s the end of it.

Best I can do is offer up a cash donation from the comfort of my dry couch in my powered living room. Some here might say that’s an example of from each according to their ability to each according to their need, and that’s ok in my opinion, given this situation.

Beware the Overton Window…

 

[[486]]

Some here might say that’s an example of from each according to their ability to each according to their need, and that’s ok in my opinion, given this situation.

I don't think anyone has mocked charity yet.

State goons violently confiscating goods from sellers is not charity. It is in fact a mockery of the idea of charity.

 

[animator]

I don't think anyone has mocked charity yet.

State goons violently confiscating goods from sellers is not charity. It is in fact a mockery of the idea of charity.

Yeah I’m not on board with that one.

 

[animator]

Beware the Overton Window…

I’m actually ok with socialism when it’s voluntary. When the state forces it, not so much.

 

[bad zuki]

because there isn't any room for coercion in capitalism, yet it attracts state violence like nothing else

What are your thoughts on Standard Oil? Would you be okay with them owning everything?
What are your thoughts on G0ogle?

I'd like to stay away from a Plutocracy. it's just monopolist held power over state monopolist held power. Both are bad.

Pretty sure the ONLY person to mentioned an interest in someone dying is east_beast .

idk what a state of emergency is then. the lower probability of dying? I'm sorry I didn't specify that gran gran is gonna go the big elvis concert in the sky if we don't get her oxygen maker working again. You are free to go about business as usual any other time.

I’m actually ok with socialism when it’s voluntary. When the state forces it, not so much.

no.

Not one person defending the free market has suggested that charity shouldn’t be the first choice. But neither are they, unlike others, suggesting that people should be hurt or killed for engaging in simple supply and demand situation.

I already do, I encourage everyone to have a strong local community. That charity pays for itself more than the few days a year it costs. Part of a strong community is helping those in need. Not a gov funded community either.

hi