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YotaAtieToo

YotaAtieToo

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Got an otherwise pretty sweet trailer in a trade today. When testing the tilt, I noticed this marvel of engineering :homer:
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Wtf kind of gehtto shit is that? Even as a clear afterthought, they could have done it 100 different ways better than that.

I camt imagine paying the ~$15k for a trailer like this (22' steel deck over 14k lb power tilt) and seeing this underneath :laughing:

But you know, they're powder coated and have led's :homer:

Luckily, none of them are collapsed and I'm not afraid of adding some metal. I plan to run flat bar down the length of it. With as many xmembers as they're are, that should be fine.
 
The build quality of some of these big trailer manufacturers is shoddy. My buddy got a suretrack and the powder coat was flaking after less than a year. They did warranty it, but what a PITA.

I’m looking at Hull Porter (pullhp) for my next trailer. They seem to care.
 
It's fine. I'd rather have that than a boxed section that traps moisture and rusts out. To deform that you'd have to overcome bending moments at 4 different points and deform two welds for each assembly with the weight placed directly on that segment of the trailer. Not gonna happen
 
KacksterK5 said:
It's fine. I'd rather have that than a boxed section that traps moisture and rusts out. To deform that you'd have to overcome bending moments at 4 different points and deform two welds for each assembly with the weight placed directly on that segment of the trailer. Not gonna happen
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was going to say - I don't really see the issue.
 
rockota said:
was going to say - I don't really see the issue.
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KacksterK5 said:
It's fine. I'd rather have that than a boxed section that traps moisture and rusts out. To deform that you'd have to overcome bending moments at 4 different points and deform two welds for each assembly with the weight placed directly on that segment of the trailer. Not gonna happen
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Californians think the world revolves around them. God forbid someone make a design that also works in other climates. :laughing:
 
My uncle bought a Kauffman. We were going to use it to move the L series to the new place. Whole thing kept shorting out. Any time I hit the brakes, the trailer would lock up off an on. I dragged that stupid thing twenty piles with the brakes going on and off. Crawled underneath, about four dozen scotchlocks. All dangling. Wire wrapped around sharp corners. Came from the factory like that. Piece of garbage.
 
You guys are high if you think that's a okay solution to needing more space between the deck and the frame. :laughing:

The only reason that it's probably okay is just cuz there's so many cross members. My buddy that works on and builds trailers all day everyday said it's the most ghetto thing he's ever seen on a trailer that wasn't home built.
 
At the very least if they were going to ghetto reggaeton like that they could have slit them over to one side so the wait was bearing down on the vertical of the sea Channel spacer instead of right in the middle where has no strength
 
So it dawned on me why they did it.

It's to take the space of the wood deck. :homer:

There are so many other solutions I can think of that wouldn't trap moisture, but wound still be much better than that.
 
YotaAtieToo said:
So it dawned on me why they did it.

It's to take the space of the wood deck. :homer:

There are so many other solutions I can think of that wouldn't trap moisture, but wound still be much better than that.
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I don't think you're correct re: wood deck... the Wood decking would be above the crossmembers, not between the crossmembers and the frame rails. :flipoff2:
 
rockota said:
I don't think you're correct re: wood deck... the Wood decking would be above the crossmembers, not between the crossmembers and the frame rails. :flipoff2:
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Think about it for a minute, you'll get it, maybe. :laughing:
 
arse_sidewards said:
Think about it for a minute, you'll get it, maybe. :laughing:
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crossmembers are welded to the frame w/o spacers when a wood deck is used?

Been a very, very long time since i've been under a PJ trailer....
 
Pretty sure thats how mine is. Can check when I get home. I have a 28' pj wood deck over
rockota said:
crossmembers are welded to the frame w/o spacers when a wood deck is used?

Been a very, very long time since i've been under a PJ trailer....
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rockota said:
crossmembers are welded to the frame w/o spacers when a wood deck is used?

Been a very, very long time since i've been under a PJ trailer....
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Yeah pretty much. Steel is like 1/8 thick so crossmembers have to move up. And the perimeter rail is taller than the crossmembers so they have to move up.
 
rockota said:
I don't think you're correct re: wood deck... the Wood decking would be above the crossmembers, not between the crossmembers and the frame rails. :flipoff2:
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I thought you were joking at first :laughing:

But ya, crossmembers have to move up and the whole deck can't drop down(I guess) so they ad scrap metal in :laughing:
 
They are the most absolute garbage ass built trailer ever made. I hate mine. It's been fucked up since day 1 of brand new. They just refused to do anything to fix it.
 
Well, I got it in a trade. I think I did fine. I'm not afraid to add or subtract metal as needed.

When I was shopping for my dump trailer, I liked maxxd and Lamar. My buddy who manages a trailer fab/repair/service shop likes Iron bull and diamond c too.


They all have shitty stuff if you really look. It's all about picking the least shitty. I also think some brands make certain styles better.
 
POR said:
They are the most absolute garbage ass built trailer ever made. I hate mine. It's been fucked up since day 1 of brand new. They just refused to do anything to fix it.
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Literally every trailer is garbage. If you don't want garbage get a truck body and put a trailer frame under it.
 
YotaAtieToo said:
You guys are high if you think that's a okay solution to needing more space between the deck and the frame. :laughing:

The only reason that it's probably okay is just cuz there's so many cross members. My buddy that works on and builds trailers all day everyday said it's the most ghetto thing he's ever seen on a trailer that wasn't home built.
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Should have bought one from him then.

Theres nothing wrong with it as pictured.
 
Are you planning to do anything to it? I don't know anything, maybe less than that, but have you got a plan that you're happy with to reinforce those spacers?
 
Sean778 said:
Are you planning to do anything to it? I don't know anything, maybe less than that, but have you got a plan that you're happy with to reinforce those spacers?
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Well I did post my plan in the op :flipoff2:

It will create somewhat of a pocket to trap shit in, so I'm still trying to think of other ways.
 
Put a single plate in the center of that c-channel so that it's parallel with the sides of the c-channel spacers. Give you strength, minimize pockets to trap shit.

Although it seems kinda redneck to do it the way PJ did, I don't think it's a huge problem. What's this trailer rated for anyway?
 
GLTHFJ60 said:
Put a single plate in the center of that c-channel so that it's parallel with the sides of the c-channel spacers. Give you strength, minimize pockets to trap shit.

Although it seems kinda redneck to do it the way PJ did, I don't think it's a huge problem. What's this trailer rated for anyway?
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Dude there is like 25 crossmembers x's 2 sides. Ain no body got tyme for Dat.

It's a 14k trailer. I plan to put 12k skit steers on it. The saving grace is tracks.

I'd just like to improve it before on bends and then the deck is tweeked.
 
EDIT DUH MATH IS HARD

Even without tracks, you're talking about 3k per corner ish, depending on implement. I don't think you're going to bend that shit with 3000#.

If it was a lowboy hauling real big machinery, yeah maybe.

If you hate it that much, then sell it and buy something else. The used trailer market is insane.
 
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