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Party line voting and voter engagement questions

TanTJJim

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I'm asking with reference to how you think your typical voter casts their ballot and if you want to add how you typically cast your ballot. The questions I have are:

1. What percentage of people do you think vote the party line down the whole ballot? (i.e. if they vote red for president, they're voting red for senators, reps, local stuff, etc)

2. Going down the ballot, how do you think the voter engagement drops off (i.e. what percentage that voted in the presidential election also voted for their senate race, then representative race, then local races, etc)


For example, as close as I can tell in 2016 in Arizona, people voted their party line +/- about 1%. And voter engagement shows that of the people who voted in the presidential election, 99% continued to vote in the Senate race but that quickly dropped to 94% that voted in the Representative race.

So what do you think, is this in line with what you'd expect or how you think people in your state vote, or how you personally vote?
 
I think the majority vote straight party.

I’ll look up whose on my ballot and see where they stand and vote accordingly. Democrats never get my vote, because their stances are never in line with mine. Usually they prop ideas that will kill small business and/or raise our taxes exponentially.
 
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FleshEater said:
I think the majority vote straight party.
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I agree with that.

I voted on the R line for president, but then I voted on the Conservative line for Reps even though they were also on the R line just to be different. I voted for only one of the judges (supposed to choose four) and voted no to both proposals on the back.

Most people don't even know there are proposals on the back. :lmao:
 
I think I'm done this altogether. Change my party to undeclared, and done with voting. I no longer want to contribute to these charades.
 
Party line, the other side offers nothing I'm interested in and within the last 4 years they've went farther away from me.

If you ever taken an online test to see where you rank, ie Dem or Repub I'm usually just slight right, Libertarian. :homer:
 
FleshEater said:
I’ll look up whose on my ballot and see where they stand and vote accordingly. Democrats never get my vote, because their stances are never in line with mine. Usually they prop ideas that will kill small business and/or raise our taxes exponentially.
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This is the unfortunate thing about the national parties and all their pac money funding everything. Everyone who doesn't tow the party line gets their primary challenger funded. There's plenty of inner city democrats who think everyone should pack heat because the cops can't be trusted to show up but they can't say that and they have to tow the gun control line because the party owns them.
 
I tend to vote against the tide. Don't care for either party so I try to vote in a way that helps either party from running away with too much power. Living in CO, I always voted Republican at the local and state level.
 
So I started digging into the data from past elections in Arizona and found that the trend to vote right straight down party lines holds true, except for this year. Looking at the data I see some really, really weird stuff. So in years past, the party line trend was straight as an arrow all the way down to the State Senate and Representatives. This means if you voted red for president, that trend continued red for Federal Senate, Reps, then we list State Corporate Commissioner next on the ballot for some reason, then State Senate and Reps. Same trend all the way down.

Voter engagement also typically drops off right after Federal Reps which is right before the Corporate Commissioner section on the ballot but again, for this year that section of voter engagement went from a previous 70% to 82% meaning 12 percent of the population that historically says fuck it I'm not filling out the rest of this long ass ballot, decide to continue voting for some reason, but only for the Corporate Commissioner, then voter engagement falls off the cliff again for State Senate and Reps. We see about 60% engagement this year and previous years so no change there.

So what we're seeing is for some reason, the Corporate Commissioner section of the ballot received a lot of extra voter engagement this year for some reason. i didn't even know what a Corporate Commissioner did until today, now and I do and it isn't a whole heck of a lot but they sure got a lot of attention this year and guess what, this is right where the party line got broke during the AZ election.

A Dem candidate for Corporate Commissioner in AZ got roughly 170,000 more votes than we would have expected if the party line trend was consistent with previous elections. When you go and look that candidate up you see their Twitter feed plastered with Biden propaganda (which admittedly doesn't mean much because every Dem social media is that way) but this one apparently had an endorsement from the Biden/Harris camp themselves. Her name is Anna Tovar if you want to look her up.

FYI, for everyone in Arizona who's so worried about the Californian's coming here and fucking up our state, based on the digging I did today Tucson is actually the place we have to worry about. There are a LOT of Tucson politicians making there way up to Phoenix and running (and winning) for office.
 
It’s abnormal for me to not vote party line. And against most proposals. Mainly because I’m voting against D. I also always vote in primaries.

there is some concerning data coming out of this election. Real or false. A really high percent of voters only voting in the Presidential race coincides with the number of votes Biden has jumped ahead by in so many counties seems suspicious.

my thought is that if you cannot fill a ballot out correctly, if you cannot get yourself to the polling location, if you cannot on your own vote, then that is on you. The right to vote doesn’t mean you have the privilege to vote. If that makes sense.
 
arse_sidewards said:
This is the unfortunate thing about the national parties and all their pac money funding everything. Everyone who doesn't tow the party line gets their primary challenger funded. There's plenty of inner city democrats who think everyone should pack heat because the cops can't be trusted to show up but they can't say that and they have to tow the gun control line because the party owns them.
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You're right...BUT, I think democrats might start coming out and the ones that are more logical and less crazy might shine through.

I honestly don't know much about JFK era democrats, but I'm sure anything is more tolerable than the abomination of USA hating democrats we have in the media 24/7. Like, where everyone can work together, and make something happen. It seems there's no budging from the crazies. It's free everything, open borders, defund the police, and tax the shit out of the working man, or nothing.
 
crisbee1 said:
Feel Free to return to California via Tuscon, need a bus ticket for you and yours?:flipoff2:
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I hope that wasn't directed at me, I moved here from Colorado 15 years ago when it was still a red state. I really liked the way Colorado was when I was there but then it started slowly shifting blue. The same things that are happening there are going on here, I'm just trying to raise a little awareness about them to people who might actually care about it. I love Arizona and the freedoms I enjoy here, I dont want that to change because of the left slowly infiltrateing this state.
 
It's probably easiest for most people to just vote straight down the line than do any research. I personally don't, especially when it comes to local politics around my area- either party has the propensity to suggest doing some dumb shit around here if left unchecked.

I think the 2016 and 2020 elections were different though. My ballot was mostly democrat in 2016.. except I didn't vote for Hillary. She was a polarizing candidate. My vote in California doesn't matter much, I know, but I bet there were a lot of people who voted that way. Trump is the same way, and I would imagine that there were plenty of people out there who voted along republican party lines with the exception of voting him in as president.
 
I've always voted for the better candidate (after researching them of course) but this election I went straight party line because fuck democrats.
 
Sterlingfire said:
Never a straight party ticket for me because i trust no one
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this
everyone that is an actual choice gets googled
everything that is only one person and a write-in blank does not get a vote, in order to give a write-in a somewhat better chance
 
I will say since some of the SCUM of south Florida in Particular DeVIL Wassaerman has changed from a Democrap to a Republican I did pick her opponent. But These days its Either Red or Other. I use to bounce all over the board with a Blue Lead but you can only fail me a couple of Elections before I say GET F*** Which is what turned me Red even though I wish I could have had more voting choices under I.
 
Don't generally vote party line, sometimes it's not possible due to how our state elections are set up (Lt Governor race came down to two democrats this year, for example). I figure out who I agree with and vote with them, that just happens to be mostly red. Races with only one candidate I don't vote on.
 
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