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dave_dj1

dave_dj1

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Oroville dam at record low, threat to stop producing electricity to some 80K people.


And Lake Mead is also at record low.


I do believe the west is going to burn, no water to put it out either.
 
Our largest lake in the state, Elephant Butte, is somewhere around 7% capacity.

Record was 3% a few years ago IIRC. We'll surpass it this year.
 
One gallon of h2o per vine per week in the prk, times a gagillionbazillion vines just in Napa....umm yea no sweat!
Effin capacity is low around here also... Funny, buck isl. Lake was bumping the secondary spillway last month.
 
Eric said:
Driven by climate change. Of course.
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Eric said:
Driven by climate change. Of course.
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Sure, didn't you know that part of the country was a lush rainforest back when it was first settled? it most certainly wasn't a barren desert.

Meanwhile, we have had a half a years worth of rain in 1 month. We get a lot of rain in a year.
 
www.yahoo.com

We're Inching Towards Actual Violence Over Access to Water

The Hoover Dam is losing its reason for being.
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Here at the shebeen, one of the larger elements in our portfolio is water—specifically, the increasing political salience of water, especially in the West, where they are experiencing such profound drought conditions that the Hoover Dam, of all things, is losing its reason for being. From CBS News:

For more than eight decades, the iconic Hoover Dam has relied on water from Nevada's Lake Mead to cover up its backside. But now, at age 85, it finds itself uncomfortably exposed. Much of the water the dam is supposed to be holding back is gone. "This is like a different world," said Pat Mulroy, the former head of the Southern Nevada Water Authority. She told CBS News senior national and environmental correspondent Ben Tracy that Lake Mead, the nation's largest reservoir, is on track to soon hit its lowest level ever recorded.
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The dam is estimated to have lost a quarter of its customary hydroelectric power. Worse, the lower Colorado River, without which the country would have a lot of new deserts, is at a crisis stage, and the federal government may have to take serious action that will affect the region’s farmers—and that I guarantee you will set off the Bundy-ite fringe.

For the first time ever, the federal government is expected to declare a water shortage on the lower Colorado River later this summer. That will force automatic cuts to the water supply for Nevada and Arizona starting in 2022. Homeowners have higher priority and, at first, won't feel the pain as badly as farmers. Dan Thelander is a second-generation family farmer in Arizona's Pinal County. The water to grow his corn and alfalfa fields comes from Lake Mead. "If we don't have irrigation water, we can't farm," he said. "So, next year we are going to get about 25% less water, means we're going to have to fallow or not plant 25% of our land.” In 2023 Thelander and other farmers in this part of Arizona are expected to lose nearly all of their water from Lake Mead, so they are rushing to dig wells to pump groundwater to try to save their farms.
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Meanwhile, a few degrees north, the High Country News reports the drought is killing fish and local economies, in that order.

Fish have been dying on the Klamath since around May 4, according to the Yurok Tribal Fisheries Department. At that time, 97% of the juvenile salmon caught by the department’s in-river trapping device were infected with the disease C. shasta, and were either dead, or would die within days. Over a two-week period, 70% of the juvenile salmon caught in the trap were dead.
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Irrigators upriver from the fish kill were told in mid-May that for the first time since “A” Canal in the Klamath Project began operating in 1907, they would not receive any water from it. The irrigators say they need 400,000 acre-feet of water but this year, they will receive just 33,000 acre-feet from the Klamath Project — a historic low. The situation has put pressure on an embattled region already caught in a cyclical mode of crisis due to a drying climate. “For salmon people, a juvenile fish kill is an absolute worst-case scenario,” Myers said in a statement.
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As is obvious, this is all yet another crisis within the general climate crisis. We are inching closer to the days when we might see actual violence over access to water. As if we all need another excuse.
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WTF? Why are homeowners getting priority over farmers? People would rather starve to death than shower?
 
vikingsven said:
And more and more houses in California. The idiots in charge don't care that there are critical resource supply issues - they just care about the $$$$
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my county is approving all kinds of massive weed grows that use a shit ton of water, a few months ago a county worker got busted for taking bribes from a weed operation to fast track their permitting process. i normally 100% support peoples rights to do what they want on their property but when you start using massive amounts of water and all your neighbors wells run dry you start causing problems not on your own property. our sheriff(temporarily filling in for a vacant position) declared a drought emergency, yet they(supervisors and community developer, water resource director) keep approving LARGE scale weed grows left and right because theyre making a bunch of money off it.

if water wasnt an issue and surrounding neighbors(normal people that cant afford to drill new deeper wells) wells werent running dry i would have no problem with it
 
what happened to desal plants? Is that not a viable option?
Plenty of water in that ocean:grinpimp:
 
dave_dj1 said:
what happened to desal plants? Is that not a viable option?
Plenty of water in that ocean:grinpimp:
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you need electricity for that.
lots of it.

yes if you build a reactor to power it, but you know you can't do that in california.
shit, you can't do that hardly anywhere anymore.
 
Mattygwheeler said:
Every 10 years they freak out about the great lakes drying up, then 10 years later there is record high levels,....almost as if there were cycles in nature....
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We are in year 21 for droughts. Last year we got 2.3 inches of rain. We had 240 days without any rain.
 
87manche said:
you need electricity for that.
lots of it.

yes if you build a reactor to power it, but you know you can't do that in california.
shit, you can't do that hardly anywhere anymore.
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Hmm... how about take the next decommissioned carrier and park it off the coast, install a bunch of desal units on it and run some hoses to shore...
 
I thought these photos were from the last drought Lake Oroville had. I find it ironic the news covers THIS lake instead of Shasta as if no one has ever heard of Lake Shasta.

2015 drought article
 
Harry Johnson said:
Lots of people warned us about this.

Shoot, my farmer grandpa before he died in 95 said someday soon people will go to war over water.
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My dad had several clients who purchased land, just for the water rights. They retired long ago...
 
I wonder how likely Palo Verde nuclear power plant, US’s #1 annual generation plant, will be forced to shut down due to lack of waste water to cool its reactor.
 
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