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Multiple plugs in sidewall. Am I retarded or run it?

CDA 455 II said:
nOOB question:
How much difference does if make with tire load rating vs vehicle weight?

Example:
Bronco: 5,500lbs

Tire - Goodyear 41X14
Load rating = 6,395lbs
vs
Tire - Toyo 40X14
Load rating = 4,500lbs
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Every tire squats differently but I've found that for a 5,000 pound-ish rig, 12 psi works great for general ORV (without beadlocks) stuff and 6-8 works for good all around traction. At that pressure beadlocks are not required but helpful.
 
Buy one. It's not hard and I have all the books on it. There are only a few general rules about patching Offload tires compared to the books that I've learned from experience.

Just don't sell patching in my area. That's beer my money. :grinpimp:
 
like something like this?
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Local tire company that deals with heavy equipment here will hot patch a tire if you tell them it's offroad only. Had a 38" SX on my trailer queen that they patched. Never had an issue....cheap too....but that was early 2000s. Might be something to look into.
 
chaplinfj60 said:
like something like this?
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That will work. I like the ones that have air pressure on them,but they are expensive. If it isn't long enough, cut the tube frame and modify it. The hardest ones to patch are the old 44/16.5s the sidewalls are almost too long for my press.

Sean said:
Local tire company that deals with heavy equipment here will hot patch a tire if you tell them it's offroad only. Had a 38" SX on my trailer queen that they patched. Never had an issue....cheap too....but that was early 2000s. Might be something to look into.
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If have stickies with no dot number, they will do those faster than anything on road.
 
i have a couple IROKs i could practice on, how do you do the tread area. sorry way off topic. one old wide tires it would be a pain, but narrower tires not too bad.
 
Sean said:
Local tire company that deals with heavy equipment here will hot patch a tire if you tell them it's offroad only. Had a 38" SX on my trailer queen that they patched. Never had an issue....cheap too....but that was early 2000s. Might be something to look into.
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Early 2000s: totally different world.

Before, say, 2005; all tire shops would mount and balance tires. Period.

Now (2020 when I discovered the tire policy change); big name brand tire shops (Goodyear) won't touch a tire older than 4 years.
Other brand tire shops (Big-O); 6 to 10 y.o. is their limit.
Mom & pop used tire shop: don't care the age of the tire.
 
chaplinfj60 said:
i have a couple IROKs i could practice on, how do you do the tread area. sorry way off topic. one old wide tires it would be a pain, but narrower tires not too bad.
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I'll start a thread when I get back from this weekends trip.
CDA 455 II said:
Now (2020 when I discovered the tire policy change); big name brand tire shops (Goodyear) won't touch a tire older than 4 years.
Other brand tire shops (Big-O); 6 to 10 y.o. is their limit.
Mom & pop used tire shop: don't care the age of the tire.
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Find an independent truck tire dealer and ask them. If a tire doesn't have a DOT number on it, It's illegal to run on the road.
 
CDA 455 II said:
Early 2000s: totally different world.

Before, say, 2005; all tire shops would mount and balance tires. Period.

Now (2020 when I discovered the tire policy change); big name brand tire shops (Goodyear) won't touch a tire older than 4 years.
Other brand tire shops (Big-O); 6 to 10 y.o. is their limit.
Mom & pop used tire shop: don't care the age of the tire.
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Agreed. I think Discount won't deal with a 6 year old tire now either...other than to take it off and replace it. I seem to recall the government made some sort of rule change on tire formulation to make them break down quicker in a landfill and that decreased the service life of the tire.

But yeah....like I said, this is a heavy equipment place (think like CAT earth movers and stuff)....Robert's Tire in Mesa/Gilbert area of Phoenix....no idea if they still do it.
 
Sean said:
Agreed. I think Discount won't deal with a 6 year old tire now either...other than to take it off and replace it. I seem to recall the government made some sort of rule change on tire formulation to make them break down quicker in a landfill and that decreased the service life of the tire.
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Most of the tire age rules are forced onto passenger and light truck markets. Check the manufacture dates on an oddball size, the distribution guys just send whats in stock regardless of date code. Semi tires are a completely different story. We once recapped a tire 7 times. it was closer to 12-13 years old at the time. An inflated tire will last way longer than a tire sitting off the rim.

Sean said:
But yeah....like I said, this is a heavy equipment place (think like CAT earth movers and stuff)....Robert's Tire in Mesa/Gilbert area of Phoenix....no idea if they still do it.
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More than likely they outsource it. Most small places would send into us and we would patch it and send it back in a week or so.
 
bad zuki said:
Most of the tire age rules are forced onto passenger and light truck markets. Check the manufacture dates on an oddball size, the distribution guys just send whats in stock regardless of date code. Semi tires are a completely different story. We once recapped a tire 7 times. it was closer to 12-13 years old at the time. An inflated tire will last way longer than a tire sitting off the rim.



More than likely they outsource it. Most small places would send into us and we would patch it and send it back in a week or so.
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Interesting info about the tire lasting longer inflated. Yeah, tire places are trying to move stock. I'd think the chain places keep track of the date codes to get rid of old stock first.

No, they did it there in house at Roberts....
 
Our system at work keeps track of any tires in inventory. Once a year we get a list of tires to be purged from inventory due to age/discontinued.

Fwiw, my comp treps have DOT numbers on them. It's been a long time but I swear my reds did too.
 
94toytruck said:
Our system at work keeps track of any tires in inventory. Once a year we get a list of tires to be purged from inventory due to age/discontinued.

Fwiw, my comp treps have DOT numbers on them. It's been a long time but I swear my reds did too.
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I'm pretty sure that they just get shipped to Max Finklelstein or other tire suppliers :grinpimp:

Where they 12# DOT code or a 10# serial code? That's interesting if they have DOT numbers. BFG, Interco, Goodyear, Nitto, and every other sticky I've seen does not.
 
bad zuki said:
I'm pretty sure that they just get shipped to Max Finklelstein or other tire suppliers :grinpimp:

Where they 12# DOT code or a 10# serial code? That's interesting if they have DOT numbers. BFG, Interco, Goodyear, Nitto, and every other sticky I've seen does not.
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Oh yeah, for sure. They pay some retarded low price for them and then sell them back to us if we need one:laughing:

I'll check once I'm mobile again on the DOT.
 
CDA 455 II said:
Early 2000s: totally different world.

Before, say, 2005; all tire shops would mount and balance tires. Period.

Now (2020 when I discovered the tire policy change); big name brand tire shops (Goodyear) won't touch a tire older than 4 years.
Other brand tire shops (Big-O); 6 to 10 y.o. is their limit.
Mom & pop used tire shop: don't care the age of the tire.
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Mexican tire shops ftw
 
bad zuki said:
I'll start a thread when I get back from this weekends trip.


Find an independent truck tire dealer and ask them. If a tire doesn't have a DOT number on it, It's illegal to run on the road.
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not rushing but want to SUB to the thread for tire vulcanizing. :beer:
 
chaplinfj60 said:
so this brings up a topic of air pressure or lack of it what caused the pinch. what do alot of you run in the south east because you have to bounce or shall i sat not crawl? west coast i feel like you have traction and lower pressure because your not giving it the beans to go up a ledge or rock face, but mud cover rocks you need to give it the beans. too low and pinch sidewall. out west i bet you run run 4-6 on a 4k rig and east 10-15 psi?
anyway just random Friday thought
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The 37" coopers on my full-bodied fzj80 i usually run around 10-12 psi. The 40" sxii's on my cj7 i usually run around 4-5 psi. These coopers are the first time I have ever gotten a pinch flat, and it literally was from the heavy duty square edge of the inner fenders on the trailer. I have had swampers on most everything that I have ever wheeled and while they do leave something to be desired in some areas of performance, they are definitely tougher than the modern radials lots of us are running now. That being said, I think these Coopers are probably the best all-around tire I have ever run. Only thing I have run with better traction has been reds.
 
I’ve seen Gluetread on Tik Tok. Looks okay.
 
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