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Move over Obamaphone, get your Bidenet yet?

Same stuff happening her in Canada. Lots of promises for anything from internet to health care to housing for the low income masses. They put billions of money into these slush funds... and billions get spent, mainly in payouts to consultant friends and nothing gets done.
 
The new Fiber company in our area Ting isnt running anything in established neighborhoods just new construction. Who knows when the neighborhood will have an actual fiber option. Century link only offered slow DSL which I had and it sucked. Att had nothing to offer.

Spectrum had 500MB down for $40 a month. Even ran cable 300 ft from the street box for free. So far it has been excellent.
 
Johann said:
The new Fiber company in our area Ting isnt running anything in established neighborhoods just new construction. Who knows when the neighborhood will have an actual fiber option. Century link only offered slow DSL which I had and it sucked. Att had nothing to offer.

Spectrum had 500MB down for $40 a month. Even ran cable 300 ft from the street box for free. So far it has been excellent.
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If there was any provider that met the old specs for "High speed internet" then you couldn't claim the fed $$ for lighting up those addresses. Even if they just claimed it and couldn't deliver. In those cases the customers would need to raise a complaint to the FCC (https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us) let the process go through and have the address delisted as covered. Up until this year 25m down was considered high speed - so those crappy dsl providers could count. But as of march it is now 100/20, which is going to rule a lot of them out (https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-401205A1.pdf)
 
Lil'John said:
I have fiber 100 feet from my house. It costs an arm and a leg to pay for it because it is only available as business class fiber:homer: I am breaking down and getting Starlink next month because I will save a BOAT load of cash over the fiber I'm paying for:eek:

If they would bring the cost down on the fiber, I'd stick with it. I have zero trust in Starlink and snow right now.
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We had something like 8' at my cabin last winter. Starlink never went down.
 
There isn't anything available here. You either use a Hotspot or a satellite. I got starlink a couple months ago, and it's been fantastic
 
MuntCuffin said:
We have fiber a 1/2 mile from the house.

They won't bring it down our road, guess there's no business opportunity from 3 houses in a half mile.

Got our starlink dish up, just gotta finish install so I can stop giving money to at&t. Not that I'm thrilled about giving money to elon, but wtf ya going to do?
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For what its worth...I've had starlink for about a year now. I lost service once in that time, due to the tornado but still. i stream movies, youtube, live tv, etc.. in the BFE portion of southeast Missouri. Even in my area, the service is far and beyond anything you'll get that isn't direct line to high service fiber.
 
Wheelerfreak said:
Over the last couple of years they ran lines out to our area out in BFE. It’s all aerial, they even had to put in some of their own poles and made a mess of it on our property ROW. It looks like they are done now but we still haven’t heard shit about who the provider is or any offers of service. As far as I know, nobody in the area has heard about or gotten the fiber service. Here I think aerial is cheaper than buried (nothing here is buried), but we often lose power in the winter due to snow and now I’d guess if they ever start offering service we’d lose internet too. We’ve been on Starlink since December of ‘21 with no regerts . Good thing too since we can’t even get signal on our phones for streaming etc.

We get a lot of snow in this area and haven’t had issues with it causing signal loss, it melts off and stays clear. The signal loss is usually only when we get a really heavy downpour like last night.
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Aerial is like 1/4 the cost of buried, if there are existing poles for them to jump on to.


Power goes out during heavy snow, usually from limbs getting heavy and contacting lines and tripping breakers and fuses. Not going to affect fiber unless the power outage affects the fiber distribution terminal long enough to deplete the battery backups.

My old place was on cable and I'd lose internet whenever the power when off because spectrum was too cheap to maintain their batteries. :shaking: I had a generator and battery backups on all my network gear, but they couldn't maintain service.
 
bgaidan said:
Power goes out during heavy snow, usually from limbs getting heavy and contacting lines and tripping breakers and fuses. Not going to affect fiber unless the power outage affects the fiber distribution terminal long enough to deplete the battery backups.

My old place was on cable and I'd lose internet whenever the power when off because spectrum was too cheap to maintain their batteries. :shaking: I had a generator and battery backups on all my network gear, but they couldn't maintain service.
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Power goes out here long enough and frequently enough in the winter that we bought a whole house auto transfer generator, I’m sure several days w/o power would kill the battery backup. Longest time has been a week with the average power loss probably being 24 hours. It usually happens when limbs dip like you said, but we also get trees and branches breaking off and tearing down the lines, usually the early wet snows of the fall.
 
Use vtel for internet, if there’s ever a problem, i can call them 24 hours a day and a human being that speaks English well, answers the phone.
 
Pretty sure that's what prompted frontier to run fiber into my town.

They're scum, but the fiber is cheaper than the local cable company that's regional and didn't have data caps.
To get the amount of bandwidth we use from the cable company I'd have to be double platinum 1000 or whatever. Their data caps are structured to force you into a 100+ dollar a month plan.
 
Spectrum already has the fiber buried in my front yard, but no connections yet. On the west edge of the state, my brother DID get connected to Spectrum. He's so far out in BFE that Verizon Wireless barely has a signal. Suddenly, after 20 years, he has high speed internet.
 
We're an underground vault manufacturer and we picked up a huge job two years ago for this. I have 400 vaults in my yard waiting to go, they have taken around 200. Plan was for them to run fiber from Central WA to Montana:laughing:
 
Lil'John said:
That gives me some hope. The only other part of Star Link that concerns me is the latency but I'll live with it.
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I can be streaming TV, have zoom meeting going on a couple computers, plus all the other shit connected around my cabin, and have no hiccups. Starlink kicks ass.
 
Alpine4x4 said:
We're an underground vault manufacturer and we picked up a huge job two years ago for this. I have 400 vaults in my yard waiting to go, they have taken around 200. Plan was for them to run fiber from Central WA to Montana:laughing:
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Oldcastle?
 
I live in walking distance of the University of Memphis and can't get gig internet, if I lived across the street I could.
 
IowaOffRoad said:
Sure you've heard about the 42 billion and change that was earmarked in 2021 to build out rural broadband. Also sure you've heard that not one person has been connected with those billions yet. If you haven't, go search.

Locally, there's a telecom that announced rural fiber 2 years ago. They were supposed to break ground 18 months ago. I was still waiting on my Starlink when their first flier came around wanting us to sign up. The "introductory rate" was 2.4x what Starlink cost for similar performance. We had been waiting for starlink for almost a year, decided that I'd keep waiting at that price.

Fast forward to last month. Big announcement in a mailer: "We are extending our signup period thru the end of the month". They haven't even begun burying one foot of cable yet. The prices have come down, similar speed/data to starlink is now only 40 bucks higher, the entry level is 1/2 of starlink but has speed/data caps like many cell carriers.

Any of y'all 'benefited' from this .gov largesse yet? Anyone else have perpetually 3 months away projects in their area similar to what's described above?
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Local REC started burying fiber right away and has their entire service area, other than extremely remote areas, covered with fiber, and now are branching out into areas outside their service area.
 
A lot of the problems with those broadband programs is that they came with a bunch of progressive earmarks and requirements. You have to certify you used union labor at inflated prices, hired an alphabet person to be the PM, did 423 environmental impact studies (from an approved vendor), etc etc etc.

The list above in satire, but they came with a lot of requirements that were impossible for small companies to satisfy so all of that money got squandered or is stuck somewhere not doing what it was meant to do.
 
Pony_Driver said:
A lot of the problems with those broadband programs is that they came with a bunch of progressive earmarks and requirements. You have to certify you used union labor at inflated prices, hired an alphabet person to be the PM, did 423 environmental impact studies (from an approved vendor), etc etc etc.

The list above in satire, but they came with a lot of requirements that were impossible for small companies to satisfy so all of that money got squandered or is stuck somewhere not doing what it was meant to do.
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So standard corporate lobby subsidies.
 
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