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Making a bad choice in a used BMW, how bad will it be?

Stix said:
I’ll throw out a dark horse option. Maserati Quattroporte 17 and up. Half the price you’re looking to spend. A fuck load cooler and is certainly no worse in the reliability department. Looks a lot better broken down in your garage too:flipoff2:
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yeah, if you're gonna embrace a wallet fire attitude at least get the maserati that is equally depreciating but with an exotic pedigree plus a cool exhaust note.
(as i recall, the early 2000's quattroporte were literally on a bmw 7 series chassis, does that ring a bell to anyone else? [edit may have been a rolls product, idk] so you could get the full 7 series experience plus bonus boutique exotic icing on top:laughing:)
 
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Fishnbeer said:
Its 'sound dampening' and it works. These cars are dead quiet inside even on the freeway. Glass is extra thick and it is rather large overall. Probably one of the heaviest windshields i have ever installed. Plus it has heated sections, camera mounts, etc
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I had a great Range Rover commercial idea a couple years back. Boys (probably 2 and 4 at the time) were having an absolute meltdown. Screaming, crying, coughing, whole nine yards. Got out to pump gas, shut the door, dead fucking silent outside. Seriously. None of that “can hear every word of a phone conversation from outside the car” crap.

Have been thinking about shooting an ad and trying to sell it to them ever since.
 
WTF? said:
It shouldn't come as a surprise; You asked if it's a bad idea, {ostensibly because your gut told you it was a pretty bad idea} and general consensus of the replies are affirming that yes it's an utterly terrible idea from a practicality standpoint.:laughing:

If you get your rocks off lighting thousand dollar bills on fire, then big body Bimmer ownership before it's depreciated below 20% of it's MSRP is definitely your thing,

The first owners of these rapidly depreciating assets lease them because a lease is a 100% write off for business. The guys buying them after the lease turn in just get a pile of money lit on fire if they don't pass their hot-potato off in time.

I'm just one of the poors, but my job entails analyzing and deconstructing the financial statements where this is evidenced.
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I should have been more specific I suppose.

The question I intended to pose was just about the N63, not the overall question of luxo barge.

As in is this the 6.0 PSD of BMW?
I don't want the 6.0 PSD of BMW. :idea:
 
CarterKraft said:
I should have been more specific I suppose.

The question I intended to pose was just about the N63, not the overall question of luxo barge.

As in is this the 6.0 PSD of BMW?
I don't want the 6.0 PSD of BMW. :idea:
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oh yeah if you wanted to know about the drivetrain sure. 'Is the BMW N-numbers turbo v-8 and 11(?) speed trans reliable?' would have been the preferred thread title.



but with a 7 series, mechanical maintenance is just the tip of the iceburg- as BMW's flagship of tech & luxury, it has like a dozen different major ECU's onboard and that doesn't include the components like heated/air conditioned taint massager module and rear armrest champagne chiller.

nobody since the end of the Clinton administration has ever said- 'my (off-lease pre-owned/ running out of warranty) 7 series was the most reliable, trouble-free car I ever owned.'

way pre-covid, my buddy once bought a super high mileage 5-ish yr old 2010-ish 7 series with almost all the option boxes checked at initial order for somewhere around 10% of MSRP. An intermittent radio glitch was able to be narrowed down to 1 of 3 ~$2k retail ecu modules which you could buy for 5-700 on the used market if you wanted to shotgun parts or pay someone at an independent shop $500 ish to diagnose with the proprietary software and tell you which $600 computer to buy which could theoretically save a few hundred versus buying all the used parts, but then you cant sell your used but functional diagnostic expense on ebay to recoup a portion of your outlay.

Sometimes the whole car would blackout all of the screens driving down the road and you'd need to control-alt-delete it with a negative battery disconnect. if it didn't wake up from that hard reset it would most likely be functionally mechanically totalled because diagnostics would exceed the market value of the car and shotgunning junkyard computers at it could rapidly approach that as well. so he was able to pass the hot potato down the line before the value hit absolute zero
 
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Point taken but this is a car with sub 20k miles and 3 full years of factory warranty available with unlimited mileage. The only way I'd own the car after this term would be if the car was flawless and I still had a hard on for it.

I don't intend to pay for any repairs on the car.

And the thread title is "Making a bad choice in a used BMW, how bad will it be?"

So to recap I didn't ask if it was a good idea or financially sound one, I am asking if I buy this $60k velvet dildo is it going to strand me?
 
CarterKraft said:
After test driving the one we did I instantly felt like it was a 5 year old Rolls Royce level of shit to go wrong.
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you should trust your intuition-

your intuition is probably hyper calibrated through your knowledge of the recent progression of 'more advanced/ sophisticated' tech in big yellow iron and the resultant 'ease' of troubleshooting/diagnostics by a marginally competent tech and the cost of parts,
 
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CarterKraft said:
Point taken but this is a car with sub 20k miles and 3 full years of factory warranty available with unlimited mileage. The only way I'd own the car after this term would be if the car was flawless and I still had a hard on for it.

I don't intend to pay for any repairs on the car.

And the thread title is "Making a bad choice in a used BMW, how bad will it be?"

So to recap I didn't ask if it was a good idea or financially sound one, I am asking if I buy this $60k velvet dildo is it going to strand me?
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how fun is it going to be going to be while you drive a 4 series loaner for 16-22 weeks a year its in for diagnostics/ parts orders? :stirthepot:
 
WTF? said:
you should trust your intuition-

your intuition is probably hyper advanced by your knowledge of the recent progression of 'more advanced/ sophisticated' tech in big yellow iron and the resultant 'ease' of troubleshooting/diagnostics by a marginally competent tech and the cost of parts,
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I had every intention of leaving with the car we went to look at, I felt like the universe was stepping in when it had already been sold.

Then the one we test drove started setting off all my Spidey senses, exactly as you said but I thought I'd get some real opinions of guys in the know.
 
WTF? said:
another thing that's fun to think about is ' how hard does someone feel compelled to drive a car they're paying ~ $50/day every day to lease for 2 years drive it?'
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Id imagine the $ wasn't as big a issue as it is for us. But I get your point.
The salesman offered some "rental" cars and I had the same thought, those mofos aren't even paid for but the guy driving it, you know he's getting his pound of flesh out of a 523hp demo...
 
CarterKraft said:
Point taken but this is a car with sub 20k miles and 3 full years of factory warranty available with unlimited mileage.
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beating a dead horse, but what the hell...

how many machines with sub 1k hrs do you see down for months at a time for stupid reasons? was their 16 speaker speaker audio system, 8 zone climate control and or heated/cooled cupholder ecu failure the root cause for that downtime?
 
Why would anyone want to buy a BMW is beyond me :grinpimp:
 
WTF? said:
beating a dead horse, but what the hell...

how many machines with sub 1k hrs do you see down for months at a time for stupid reasons? was their 16 speaker speaker audio system, 8 zone climate control and or heated/cooled cupholder ecu failure the root cause for that downtime?
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Well we actually don't have those sort of perpetual problems.

We'll have emissions problems and catastrophic failures, that about sums it up.
 
CarterKraft said:
Well we actually don't have those sort of perpetual problems.

We'll have emissions problems and catastrophic failures, that about sums it up.
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yeah, that was the point- you have those problems without the extra luxury systems.

but how much extended downtime do you see for sub 4 yr old machines with those emissions(big time relevant here) and catastrophic failures?
 
CarterKraft said:
Point taken but this is a car with sub 20k miles and 3 full years of factory warranty available with unlimited mileage.
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Its really is a nice car, I am not sure I would trust someones judgement if they tried to tell you otherwise. If you got the cash, and you dont plan on being married to it forever then fuck it, buy it. They have a deal on maint, you can get 3 oil svc's for $200 or something which is an awesome deal if add up the cost of 9 qts of synthetic oil.

You should be fine for a couple years, then when shit does start leaking just trade it in for something else. I would just ask them to do a software update, complete vehicle programming/encoding on it to seal the deal before you buy.

It really is a nice fucking car
 
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