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I posted these vids in another thread about cameras but they might be better served here.
Don't know the status on the poor bastard, this happened before the vet clinic was open.




 
Fawk.... I hope that guy is ok. Asshole was triple stacking the intersection :shaking:


I was coming out of a merge/turn lane the other day and saw the motorcycle, but with how dim his headlight was, I thought he was much further down the road. It spooked me when he passed by so quickly. Could have been worse if I was an aggressive driver!
 
at that rate of speed, 10-1 hes dead
Dunno... if he had a full face, I could see it helping. Who knows on internal injuries though. If he managed to avoid the B pillar and hit the door, it could help?
I used to ride (still have my license), so I try to be hyper-aware of motorcyclists. I know how shitty it is to get cut off/ignored/put in danger by careless/reckless assholes:mad3:
 
Sucks if the guy died. Fuck the guy blocking the intersection.

But, the biker sucked worse. PLENTY of time to avoid that. :homer:
Debatable. He was locked up pretty good. Sure he could have tried to make a dive for the origin of the car's path, but who knows what the road conditions were and all that. Looks like he was left lane and the driver slowed as he went into the median crossover.
'SIPDE'. Hard to 'predict' with erratic maneuvers. He decided to lock em up and keep it from washing out. Not ever decision works out, unfortunately.
 
Sucks if the guy died. Fuck the guy blocking the intersection.

But, the biker sucked worse. PLENTY of time to avoid that. :homer:
You know I told my wife the same thing...
I am a rider... And to see the brakes locked for that distance nd direct hit to the car just seemed there where other options.
Not trying to shame him or anything, he didn't deserve that.
 
Debatable. He was locked up pretty good. Sure he could have tried to make a dive for the origin of the car's path, but who knows what the road conditions were and all that. Looks like he was left lane and the driver slowed as he went into the median crossover.
'SIPDE'. Hard to 'predict' with erratic maneuvers. He decided to lock em up and keep it from washing out. Not ever decision works out, unfortunately.
I was pretty impressed he didn't wash out.
With full lock at that speed 60 mph speed limit good on him for keeping it up right.
 
Debatable. He was locked up pretty good. Sure he could have tried to make a dive for the origin of the car's path, but who knows what the road conditions were and all that. Looks like he was left lane and the driver slowed as he went into the median crossover.
'SIPDE'. Hard to 'predict' with erratic maneuvers. He decided to lock em up and keep it from washing out. Not ever decision works out, unfortunately.
The failure was the lock up. He likely didnt scrub speed till lock up, at that point he was fucked.
Not placing any blame on him though, the car was 100% the idiot.
 
so I try to be hyper-aware of motorcyclists
My dad rides, so I also try to stay aware of motorcycles, I also don't want to be involved in an accident involving injuries so I pay the fuck attention :homer:.

Driver is an idiot blocking the intersection, got greedy and in a hurry and look what it got him.
 
When riding, it's a constant game of anticipating/expecting what idiotic thing every driver is going to do and positioning yourself accordingly.

There are countless situations that resulted in a non-issue simply because I was expecting it.

Most people don't deserve a drivers license.
 
To be fair, I encounter tons of retards on motorcyles as well… tailgating.

There’s stupid everywhere.
Either they get the hint after getting smoked and then a washer fluid shower, or they dont. :laughing:
 
To be fair, I encounter tons of retards on motorcyles as well…passing on the berm, on double yellow lines, speeding, tailgating.

There’s stupid everywhere.
I pass on double yellows if I can. When the guy in front of me is floating between the centerline and the shoulder, I can see the phone screen in their right hand, constantly braking, I zip by them to get as far away as possible.
 
I was merging onto a road the other day, Looked over my shoulder, didn't see anything coming , started to chane lanes, a feeble horn honked and since my window was open I heard it and stayed half out of the lane to the right, I had almost merged into a bike, freaked me out a little as I ride too. I felt a little bad but if I had been him I would have changed lanes to the left. Tiny shitboxes have big blindspots.🤷‍♂️
 
To be fair, I encounter tons of retards on motorcycles as well…passing on the berm, on double yellow lines, speeding, tailgating.

There’s stupid everywhere.
This, many are just donors on two wheels, and then they cry when they get into a wreck. You should be riding like you have common sense and not blasting through traffic. Those that know will understand this. I also highly recommend have this installed on your bike, makes a world of differnace in being seen. motorcyclist has installed some sort of light modulator. This is a device that flashes either the headlight or the taillight to help them become more noticeable to other drivers around them.
 
I was merging onto a road the other day, Looked over my shoulder, didn't see anything coming , started to chane lanes, a feeble horn honked and since my window was open I heard it and stayed half out of the lane to the right, I had almost merged into a bike, freaked me out a little as I ride too. I felt a little bad but if I had been him I would have changed lanes to the left. Tiny shitboxes have big blindspots.🤷‍♂️

About 2010 I had a guy in a pickup pass me on a 4-lane and then proceed to merge right back into where I was. I merged onto the shoulder, kicked his door, and stopped riding bikes on the highway after that. FYI kicking the door of a vehicle from a bike is nowhere near as stable as it would seem on TV, I almost wrecked myself.
 
When you pass on a double line and get wrecked that is on you if someone decides to make left turn, Next you should not be that close to someones vehicle that you can see in a cars mirrors. Do you have your donor card and will made out ? I have seen this happen to several bikes that "attempted" pass on double yellows. Watch a bike try to pass a truck, truck made quick left turn on a country road, next thing was he was squished like a bug.
 
If you choose to ride astride an engine, instead of in a metal cage with seat belts and airbags, accept the risks you have chosen. Too many motorcyclists out there are throwing little bitch fits out on the road. I get it, you almost died, but only because you chose fun over safe. It's your right to do that, but dont throw a fit because what to normal people might just be a car insurance claim would be a life flight for you. You chose that.
 
I currently have two open investigations going right now involving motorcycles vs cars. Both of them resulted in the motorcycle driver dying and both were a careless car driver who didnt see the bike.
Say it aint so....
Not funny how every at fault:mad3:cager states
"I did not see the biker" Yet they will drive into oncomming traffic to miss a bycyclist.:flipoff:
 
If you choose to ride astride an engine, instead of in a metal cage with seat belts and airbags, accept the risks you have chosen. Too many motorcyclists out there are throwing little bitch fits out on the road. I get it, you almost died, but only because you chose fun over safe. It's your right to do that, but dont throw a fit because what to normal people might just be a car insurance claim would be a life flight for you. You chose that.
Bullshit
 
If you choose to ride astride an engine, instead of in a metal cage with seat belts and airbags, accept the risks you have chosen. Too many motorcyclists out there are throwing little bitch fits out on the road. I get it, you almost died, but only because you chose fun over safe. It's your right to do that, but dont throw a fit because what to normal people might just be a car insurance claim would be a life flight for you. You chose that.
Local guy riding a street bike at like at like 45 in a 30 asspacked a car that was slowing down to make a legal right turn. Bike rider's friends somehow 100% blamed the car for not being aware of the bike.
 
The headlight on that motorcycle was plenty bright for the car's driver to have seen it; they were just impatient to get into the already full center (it appears they tried going to the left of the blue pickup that was also turning left). I used to drive a "divided highway" (Scottsdale Rd heading toward Cave-Creek/Carefree, for those who know the area) like that daily and at least once a week someone would do something similar.

Most of the time changing lanes and/or slowing down (hard) while on the horn would give the other car enough time to fully get in the crossover. Once, thankfully I was driving my M3 which had the ability to stop in time, as the person who I almost T-boned is looking out their window :eek: at me and not paying attention that the car in front of them was no longer blocking and they could have pulled forward and saved both of us from having to change our underwear.

I used to do my daily commute on a motorcycle. It was great until I got a job that took me through downtown (through the I-10 "tunnel"). About 2 or 3 months after I got that job, there was one week, where EVERY commute (both to and from work) some "cager" tried to defy the laws of physics and occupy the same time and space as me. After that week, I stopped riding to work and sold the bike about a year later as I rarely had time to "just ride".

I've also seen my share of bad motorcycle riders. Two that I remember, because they both crashed right in front of me.

First one I saw coming up behind me as I was getting off the freeway, he was weaving across all 4 lanes passing cars like they were just sitting there (and traffic was moving along at 65-75 mph). He passed me on the off-ramp where there was room, but it was technically a single lane; we both made the right turn at the bottom of the onramp and ended up more or less next to each other behind traffic at a light. When the light turned green, the car in front of him was slow so he ended up changing lanes to get behind me. Then as soon as there was room to get back in front of the slow car, he changed lanes again and hammered it. But the work truck that was in front of me changed lanes at the same time (maybe even a little before). The guy on the bike tried passing the work truck (who was changing lanes much slower) before he could complete the lane change but ended up tagging the driver's rear corner of the truck and then hit the median curb and went down hard. I made a U-Turn and came back to give testimony to the officer taking the police report, as did about 5 other people who all testified to the rider being aggressive.

The other one was also on the freeway, during "rush" hour where traffic was moving along at a pretty good clip but approaching a hill where it always slowed down (101 in Phoenix West bound just before Cave Creek Rd). As traffic started to slow down, I was admiring a nice classic hot rod in the lane to my left, a 1970ish Chevelle that was super clean. Saw the bike coming up in my rearview mirror, changing lanes, flying by cars that were slowing down. He came up behind me, flew into the lane to my right, passed me, then cut across in front of me (not into my lane but through my lane) into the lane to my left and smack dab into the center of the Chevelle. The way he looked when he hit the back of the car reminded me of a bird hitting a window - splat!" To this day it bewilders me how he picked the ONE really cool car on the road at that moment to crash into.
 
The headlight on that motorcycle was plenty bright for the car's driver to have seen it; they were just impatient to get into the already full center (it appears they tried going to the left of the blue pickup that was also turning left). I used to drive a "divided highway" (Scottsdale Rd heading toward Cave-Creek/Carefree, for those who know the area) like that daily and at least once a week someone would do something similar.

Most of the time changing lanes and/or slowing down (hard) while on the horn would give the other car enough time to fully get in the crossover. Once, thankfully I was driving my M3 which had the ability to stop in time, as the person who I almost T-boned is looking out their window :eek: at me and not paying attention that the car in front of them was no longer blocking and they could have pulled forward and saved both of us from having to change our underwear.

I used to do my daily commute on a motorcycle. It was great until I got a job that took me through downtown (through the I-10 "tunnel"). About 2 or 3 months after I got that job, there was one week, where EVERY commute (both to and from work) some "cager" tried to defy the laws of physics and occupy the same time and space as me. After that week, I stopped riding to work and sold the bike about a year later as I rarely had time to "just ride".

I've also seen my share of bad motorcycle riders. Two that I remember, because they both crashed right in front of me.

First one I saw coming up behind me as I was getting off the freeway, he was weaving across all 4 lanes passing cars like they were just sitting there (and traffic was moving along at 65-75 mph). He passed me on the off-ramp where there was room, but it was technically a single lane; we both made the right turn at the bottom of the onramp and ended up more or less next to each other behind traffic at a light. When the light turned green, the car in front of him was slow so he ended up changing lanes to get behind me. Then as soon as there was room to get back in front of the slow car, he changed lanes again and hammered it. But the work truck that was in front of me changed lanes at the same time (maybe even a little before). The guy on the bike tried passing the work truck (who was changing lanes much slower) before he could complete the lane change but ended up tagging the driver's rear corner of the truck and then hit the median curb and went down hard. I made a U-Turn and came back to give testimony to the officer taking the police report, as did about 5 other people who all testified to the rider being aggressive.

The other one was also on the freeway, during "rush" hour where traffic was moving along at a pretty good clip but approaching a hill where it always slowed down (101 in Phoenix West bound just before Cave Creek Rd). As traffic started to slow down, I was admiring a nice classic hot rod in the lane to my left, a 1970ish Chevelle that was super clean. Saw the bike coming up in my rearview mirror, changing lanes, flying by cars that were slowing down. He came up behind me, flew into the lane to my right, passed me, then cut across in front of me (not into my lane but through my lane) into the lane to my left and smack dab into the center of the Chevelle. The way he looked when he hit the back of the car reminded me of a bird hitting a window - splat!" To this day it bewilders me how he picked the ONE really cool car on the road at that moment to crash into.
A few years ago up here a husband and wife were riding together from WI on vacation and the wife watched the husband rear end a dump truck that had stopped to turn left at 60. Never hit the brakes, didn't make it. "splat" as you say.
 
Personal responsibility as a motorcycle rider is to realize everyone is trying to hit you. Simple.
100%

ride like every, EVERYONE, is trying to kill you.
 
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The car was obviously at fault, but that was 100% avoidable; rider get points deducted for not seeing a cluster fuck in the center and the car pulling out. He had plenty of time/room to swerve to the right lane and go in between the car and the white vehicle.

Oh well, at least he gets a brand new paid-for bike and a healthy injury settlement now.
 
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