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Thank you Jimmy! Thank you for all your wisdom bro!

This is a place for Jimmy to drop his knowledge and we can all come to look at it!

Jimbo~ it's all you now man. Take it away!
 
Excellent idea Fletch!

Now we can actually learn the easy, smarter way to get things done. :flipoff2:
 
This thread shoud have a paywall attached to it. You can't give away that much knowledge and expertise for free!

:flipoff2:

But would he earn based on the quantity of knowledge he shares (flat rate per knowledge job) or the number of hours it takes him to blather on about shit in convoluted ways tripping over his own logic and ignoring scenarios that are valid but don't support his point of view? Because it's not fair that it takes him longer, and the people who are better at it must be cheating somehow!
 
But would he earn based on the quantity of knowledge he shares (flat rate per knowledge job) or the number of hours it takes him to blather on about shit in convoluted ways tripping over his own logic and ignoring scenarios that are valid but don't support his point of view? Because it's not fair that it takes him longer, and the people who are better at it must be cheating somehow!

:lmao:
 
Can we ban him? Even evernoob contributes to tech threads every once in a while, all this fucker does is waste server space Austin has to pay for

I have contributed. I've offered advice and tips I've learned from my time turning wrenches. You fuckers can't even tell me why I'm because that requires actual thought. All it takes is a dumb brute to call someone a "Pussy" for daring to try and help others and make life easier. You can talk shit on my attitude all you want, but that still doesn't effect the validity of what I said or make you right simply by calling me a name. And yes, when I get a valid response I take what was said into consideration, but my original questions in my OP still stand.

Why is struggling so revered by you fuckers and doing anything to make life easy is seen as "weakness"?

Why do professional techs have the attitude of broke ass DIY'ers trying to get their jalopy back on the road as cheap as possible?

"Real men do everything the hardest way possible and anyone who doesn't is a lazy, entitled pussy":lmao:

The level of stupidity exhibited by some of you is fucking astounding.
 
I have contributed. I've offered advice and tips I've learned from my time turning wrenches. You fuckers can't even tell me why I'm because that requires actual thought. All it takes is a dumb brute to call someone a "Pussy" for daring to try and help others and make life easier. You can talk shit on my attitude all you want, but that still doesn't effect the validity of what I said or make you right simply by calling me a name. And yes, when I get a valid response I take what was said into consideration, but my original questions in my OP still stand.

Why is struggling so revered by you fuckers and doing anything to make life easy is seen as "weakness"?

Why do professional techs have the attitude of broke ass DIY'ers trying to get their jalopy back on the road as cheap as possible?

"Real men do everything the hardest way possible and anyone who doesn't is a lazy, entitled pussy":lmao:

The level of stupidity exhibited by some of you is fucking astounding.

You would love Uncle Fab.
 
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I've said it before but I think it is worth repeating.

I might let Jimbo do some shitty work on my car that I do not feel like doing as long as I didn't have to interact with him at all.

Also if I got back in the car and it smelled of both smugness and self righteousness I would through a fucking fit!!!!!!!!
 
I've said it before but I think it is worth repeating.

I might let Jimbo do some shitty work on my car that I do not feel like doing as long as I didn't have to interact with him at all.

Also if I got back in the car and it smelled of both smugness and self righteousness I would through a fucking fit!!!!!!!!

You seem like you're here to actually talk to me. What about my way of thinking/attitude is misguided in your opinion?
 
You seem like you're here to actually talk to me. What about my way of thinking/attitude is misguided in your opinion?

Dude, I do not think you are a bad guy.

I think you are young and just not been out in the world long enough yet.

I remember being young and seeing stupidity around me and I couldn't understand it, it was just hard to get why everyone wouldn't do things the smart and easy way.

Now as I have gotten older I just understand that is how it is, I do shit my way.

I give advice when asked, and very light general suggestions if not asked.

You might be a smart guy, but you need to get off your soapbox or at least take that to a place where that shit might work like Facebook or Reddit.

This place is full of actual very smart people, not all of them, but more than any other group I have been a member of.

I think if you just tone your delivery down some you might get along better here.
 
DAM IT guys! This was supposed to be Jimmy Number's thread!

Quit fawkin it up~ :mad3:
 
Dude, I do not think you are a bad guy.

I think you are young and just not been out in the world long enough yet.

I remember being young and seeing stupidity around me and I couldn't understand it, it was just hard to get why everyone wouldn't do things the smart and easy way.

Now as I have gotten older I just understand that is how it is, I do shit my way.

I give advice when asked, and very light general suggestions if not asked.

You might be a smart guy, but you need to get off your soapbox or at least take that to a place where that shit might work like Facebook or Reddit.

This place is full of actual very smart people, not all of them, but more than any other group I have been a member of.

I think if you just tone your delivery down some you might get along better here.


Thank you for an actual reply to what I'm trying to talk about.

And I did not come here to "preach" to people or anything of the sort. I take auto repair very seriously and am always trying to better my craft, and whenever I get a tip or trick that I come across or that another tech shares with me I always write it down and keep track of them so I can both remember them in the future and pass them along to anyone out there that needs them or is willing to hear them. I don't know everything by any means, but I do notice patterns with both myself and other techs I've worked with both now and in the past and feel like there are things that not many other mechanics (if any at all) are discussing, and I feel there's always something to be learned. And IMO too many techs have the attitude of "Screw that guy I'm not helping him" or the attitude that their knowledge is somehow secret and they don't need to share it with anyone. I'll gladly help anyone who asks for it, and take tips and advice if I'm struggling with something or need a second set of eyes on something. Maybe that person sees things differently than me and can point me in a different direction, or maybe I could be that person.


Basically, I want my ideas and thoughts to be given the same consideration as everyone else's, and if I have an opinion that the majority of the group thinks is wrong I want to discuss it and understand why and maybe walk away a bit smarter, or at the very least have a conversation and at the end we can agree to disagree. I appreciate those select few here that want to have a genuine discussion of differing opinions and ideas without people getting butthurt or the "conversation" into a grade school level name calling fest. I have no problem with disagreement but I like a little explanation behind it, as I have been more than willing to explain my thought process behind doing things. Calling me a **** and telling me to shut up adds nothing to the conversation and neither person takes anything away from it besides anger and hostility. Differing opinions can be discussed without things getting personal.

And I believe if everyone just "did things their own way" and never discussed tips, tricks and differing methods of thought, everyone would become stunted and set in their ways instead of trying to constantly improve themselves. I'm hungry for that type of thing, auto repair is my passion in life, not just a "means to an end" to get a paycheck, like so many jobs are to so many people. I actually enjoy going into work and dealing with the challenges of the day and coming up with creative ways to not only get the job done, but to improve it and do it "better" each time, both in terms of quality and efficiency. I like the phrase "always content, never satisfied" because it describes me and my attitude towards my work. I want to be the "top dog" in my field, not a middle of the road, mediocre mechanic, and doing that takes lots of hard work and perseverance. But working smart has more advantages that just straight up working hard IMO.
 
Thank you for an actual reply to what I'm trying to talk about.

And I did not come here to "preach" to people or anything of the sort. I take auto repair very seriously and am always trying to better my craft, and whenever I get a tip or trick that I come across or that another tech shares with me I always write it down and keep track of them so I can both remember them in the future and pass them along to anyone out there that needs them or is willing to hear them. I don't know everything by any means, but I do notice patterns with both myself and other techs I've worked with both now and in the past and feel like there are things that not many other mechanics (if any at all) are discussing, and I feel there's always something to be learned. And IMO too many techs have the attitude of "Screw that guy I'm not helping him" or the attitude that their knowledge is somehow secret and they don't need to share it with anyone. I'll gladly help anyone who asks for it, and take tips and advice if I'm struggling with something or need a second set of eyes on something. Maybe that person sees things differently than me and can point me in a different direction, or maybe I could be that person.


Basically, I want my ideas and thoughts to be given the same consideration as everyone else's, and if I have an opinion that the majority of the group thinks is wrong I want to discuss it and understand why and maybe walk away a bit smarter, or at the very least have a conversation and at the end we can agree to disagree. I appreciate those select few here that want to have a genuine discussion of differing opinions and ideas without people getting butthurt or the "conversation" into a grade school level name calling fest. I have no problem with disagreement but I like a little explanation behind it, as I have been more than willing to explain my thought process behind doing things. Calling me a **** and telling me to shut up adds nothing to the conversation and neither person takes anything away from it besides anger and hostility. Differing opinions can be discussed without things getting personal.

And I believe if everyone just "did things their own way" and never discussed tips, tricks and differing methods of thought, everyone would become stunted and set in their ways instead of trying to constantly improve themselves. I'm hungry for that type of thing, auto repair is my passion in life, not just a "means to an end" to get a paycheck, like so many jobs are to so many people. I actually enjoy going into work and dealing with the challenges of the day and coming up with creative ways to not only get the job done, but to improve it and do it "better" each time, both in terms of quality and efficiency. I like the phrase "always content, never satisfied" because it describes me and my attitude towards my work. I want to be the "top dog" in my field, not a middle of the road, mediocre mechanic, and doing that takes lots of hard work and perseverance. But working smart has more advantages that just straight up working hard IMO.

I believe I have read all of your threads here and that other board, I do not recall you sharing any tips or tricks, well besides antisieze on everything but I do not think that is as revolutionary as you make it out to be.
 
I believe I have read all of your threads here and that other board, I do not recall you sharing any tips or tricks, well besides antisieze on everything but I do not think that is as revolutionary as you make it out to be.

Oh really? What would you call this then? Not telling anyone what to do, mind you, just giving some tips that I've observed over the years and ways I feel lots of other techs get things "wrong" .

1. NEVER LIE OR BE DISHONEST WITH CUSTOMERS. There’s too much legitimate work on vehicles out there to EVER lie to a customer or feed them a line of BS. This is the biggest plague on the automotive industry. Guy’s will call a leaking oil pan and clean up the leak with brake cleaner, or only change one bank when doing a tune up because “the back ones are a PITA” If that’s your attitude, GTFO of this business.

2. Always make things easier for the next guy. Whether that’s spraying down tie rods and cam bolts to free them up before doing an alignment, putting anti seize (I’m starting to like Fluid Film for this application better) on hubs to prevent brake rotors from rusting on, or inside knuckles before replacing hub assemblies,etc. For instance, if I replace an outer tie rod, I will wire wheel the threads of the inner tie rod, run the jam nut back and forth to free it up for when an alignment is done. No sense in fighting with rusty, crusty stuff. Anti-seize goes on bolts that are known to either seize and snap off, such as Jeep Wrangler rear shock bolts, or seize in place, such as Chevy truck upper control arm cam bolts or Ram 1500 lower strut bolts.

3. Use the right tool for the job. Your hands are not hammers, don’t use your hands or legs to break things loose (kicking stick on wheels, hitting the ratchet/wrench/prybar with your hand to break a bolt loose,etc.). Your ratchet, wrench, impact, etc. are also not hammers. Don’t use SAE sockets on metric because it’s “close enough” (there are exceptions to this, such as 5/16 and 8mm). Don’t use a 1/2 impact and 2 reducers on a 7mm bolt. I’m so lazy I’ve gotten to the point to where I’ll rarely use an actual hammer, I prefer using the air hammer with a flat chisel bit to remove rotors, a pointed tip to get hub assemblies to spin in the knuckle and come right out. Saves wear and tear on your body too.

4. Torque wrenches exist for a reason, use them! With most things, once you get an experienced “feel” for how tight things should be, you can get pretty close with your hands or air/electric tools, but I still break out the the torque wrench for EVERY wheel I put on. Too many guys go gung-ho with the impact and make things WAY too tight. Even things as simple as oil filters. Bottom it out and give it 3/4 to 1 turn. I should NOT need a 1/2 breaker bar with a cheater pipe to take out an oil drain plug or oil filter, but I’ve been there.

5. Take care of your body. I wear safety glasses whenever I’m working on a vehicle, can’t risk screwing up my eyes, which seem to be magnets for dirt and oil/coolant/brake cleaner/brake fluid/transmission fluid. Been there, done that, no thanks. Won’t see me kneeling directly on concrete unless I downright have to. I have thick pieces of foam I’ve cut down and made a kneeling pad for when I’m racking up a vehicle on the lift. Didn’t for the first several years of doing mechanic work and my knees are already paying for it. Same with wearing gloves. I know the old timers will make fun of you and say you’re wearing “bitch mittens”, but I don’t know how they’ve done it all these years after seeing what their hands look like. Didn’t wear gloves either for the first few years but I quickly learned the advantage they provide.

6. Always be learning, never be content. Always be looking for the faster/easier way of doing something. Never do things the “hard” way if you can help it. Won’t see me breaking out an old school combination wrench or ratchet if I can help it. It’s all cordless/pneumatic whenever possible. Same goes for things like wire brush vs wire wheel. Once I wire brushed something a few times I’m like “fuck this” and break out the die grinder with a wire wheel.

7. Stay organized. Digging through a drawer full of sockets/wrenches/pliers or whatever is a waste of time. Keep your toolbox organized with everything in a designated spot. Socket rails and other organizers like that greatly aid in finding tools easily.

8. Don’t be a parts changer. Test, don’t guess. When you tell a customer that their car needs x part or x repair, let that be because you’ve gone through the steps to verify not only the problem, but have gone through all the diagnostic process needed to verify the actual cause of the problem. Too many guys just get a trouble code, look up the most common part replaced for that code and shotgun a part at the car. And yes that’ll work roughly 75% of the time. It’s that other 25 that gets you.

9. Take pride in your work. This goes with anything, but if something’s worth doing, it’s worth doing right. Do it right or don’t do it at all. Too many guys out there, when doing a brake job, don’t replace rattle clips, don’t lube caliper slides, don’t clean hubs before installing new rotors, etc. Putting “whatever” oil you have close by instead of the proper grade because “It doesn’t matter”. There’s many other examples of poor workmanship I can cite.

10. Have the right attitude towards your work. If you’re one of the guys in this field that whines and complains when you have to do something out of your comfort zone, or you find yourself saying “X is stupid, why do you need that” or any such sentiment, GET OUT OF THIS BUSINESS. If you’re not prepared to learn and grow your skills each and every day, as well as keep up with the tools needed to do proper work, you’re in the wrong business. Figuring out new things and new systems I’ve never worked on before gives me the “warm fuzzies” like nothing else in life can, and I look forward to the challenges that lie ahead, even though I might get frustrated while working on it. If you’re a guy that only aspires to do low level work or never venture outside your comfort zone, you’ll likely get frustrated with the business due to “low pay” or “crap work”. When really if that’s all you aspire to, that’s all you’re going to get. Too many guys are happy to put out mediocre work and almost take pride in their ignorance of not being able to understand this “new shit”. It takes lots of effort to learn ad keep growing as a tech, and few of them are willing to do it.
 
Here's some more :grinpimp:

1. Minimize trips back and forth to get tools. Have a tool cart/box/bag etc. with the stuff you use the most so you can take it wherever and have almost everything at arms length. Walking back to your tool box/vehicle really eats up time.

2. Stay organized with your tools, digging through a drawer looking for a wrench, socket, etc. eats up a lot of time. Have everything where you can open the drawer and grab what you need WITHOUT looking.

3. Think a few steps ahead. While standing there turning a bolt, I think what the next part of the job is going to be and what tools will be needed. Some guys take a part off, stand back, look at what needs to come off next, take that off, stand back and look again, etc.

4. If using multiple sockets in the same drive size, have a couple ratchets for each drive size. Constantly switching sockets eats up time.

5. Do everything you can where you are at, don't waste energy and make unnecessary movements. E.g. do everything you can with the car on the ground before jacking it up. Do everything under the hood before going underneath, etc. Running back and forth between inside and under the hood wastes lots of time.

6. NEVER set tools/bolts/parts under the hood. Always set them in a magnetic tray, on a cart/bench or even just on a rag on the ground. Setting things under the hood is how they get dropped, lost or forgotten.

7. Obviously don't use hand tools when cordless, pneumatic or electric tools are available.
 
Oh really? What would you call this then? Not telling anyone what to do, mind you, just giving some tips that I've observed over the years and ways I feel lots of other techs get things "wrong" .

1. NEVER LIE OR BE DISHONEST WITH CUSTOMERS. There’s too much legitimate work on vehicles out there to EVER lie to a customer or feed them a line of BS. This is the biggest plague on the automotive industry. Guy’s will call a leaking oil pan and clean up the leak with brake cleaner, or only change one bank when doing a tune up because “the back ones are a PITA” If that’s your attitude, GTFO of this business.

2. Always make things easier for the next guy. Whether that’s spraying down tie rods and cam bolts to free them up before doing an alignment, putting anti seize (I’m starting to like Fluid Film for this application better) on hubs to prevent brake rotors from rusting on, or inside knuckles before replacing hub assemblies,etc. For instance, if I replace an outer tie rod, I will wire wheel the threads of the inner tie rod, run the jam nut back and forth to free it up for when an alignment is done. No sense in fighting with rusty, crusty stuff. Anti-seize goes on bolts that are known to either seize and snap off, such as Jeep Wrangler rear shock bolts, or seize in place, such as Chevy truck upper control arm cam bolts or Ram 1500 lower strut bolts.

3. Use the right tool for the job. Your hands are not hammers, don’t use your hands or legs to break things loose (kicking stick on wheels, hitting the ratchet/wrench/prybar with your hand to break a bolt loose,etc.). Your ratchet, wrench, impact, etc. are also not hammers. Don’t use SAE sockets on metric because it’s “close enough” (there are exceptions to this, such as 5/16 and 8mm). Don’t use a 1/2 impact and 2 reducers on a 7mm bolt. I’m so lazy I’ve gotten to the point to where I’ll rarely use an actual hammer, I prefer using the air hammer with a flat chisel bit to remove rotors, a pointed tip to get hub assemblies to spin in the knuckle and come right out. Saves wear and tear on your body too.

4. Torque wrenches exist for a reason, use them! With most things, once you get an experienced “feel” for how tight things should be, you can get pretty close with your hands or air/electric tools, but I still break out the the torque wrench for EVERY wheel I put on. Too many guys go gung-ho with the impact and make things WAY too tight. Even things as simple as oil filters. Bottom it out and give it 3/4 to 1 turn. I should NOT need a 1/2 breaker bar with a cheater pipe to take out an oil drain plug or oil filter, but I’ve been there.

5. Take care of your body. I wear safety glasses whenever I’m working on a vehicle, can’t risk screwing up my eyes, which seem to be magnets for dirt and oil/coolant/brake cleaner/brake fluid/transmission fluid. Been there, done that, no thanks. Won’t see me kneeling directly on concrete unless I downright have to. I have thick pieces of foam I’ve cut down and made a kneeling pad for when I’m racking up a vehicle on the lift. Didn’t for the first several years of doing mechanic work and my knees are already paying for it. Same with wearing gloves. I know the old timers will make fun of you and say you’re wearing “bitch mittens”, but I don’t know how they’ve done it all these years after seeing what their hands look like. Didn’t wear gloves either for the first few years but I quickly learned the advantage they provide.

6. Always be learning, never be content. Always be looking for the faster/easier way of doing something. Never do things the “hard” way if you can help it. Won’t see me breaking out an old school combination wrench or ratchet if I can help it. It’s all cordless/pneumatic whenever possible. Same goes for things like wire brush vs wire wheel. Once I wire brushed something a few times I’m like “fuck this” and break out the die grinder with a wire wheel.

7. Stay organized. Digging through a drawer full of sockets/wrenches/pliers or whatever is a waste of time. Keep your toolbox organized with everything in a designated spot. Socket rails and other organizers like that greatly aid in finding tools easily.

8. Don’t be a parts changer. Test, don’t guess. When you tell a customer that their car needs x part or x repair, let that be because you’ve gone through the steps to verify not only the problem, but have gone through all the diagnostic process needed to verify the actual cause of the problem. Too many guys just get a trouble code, look up the most common part replaced for that code and shotgun a part at the car. And yes that’ll work roughly 75% of the time. It’s that other 25 that gets you.

9. Take pride in your work. This goes with anything, but if something’s worth doing, it’s worth doing right. Do it right or don’t do it at all. Too many guys out there, when doing a brake job, don’t replace rattle clips, don’t lube caliper slides, don’t clean hubs before installing new rotors, etc. Putting “whatever” oil you have close by instead of the proper grade because “It doesn’t matter”. There’s many other examples of poor workmanship I can cite.

10. Have the right attitude towards your work. If you’re one of the guys in this field that whines and complains when you have to do something out of your comfort zone, or you find yourself saying “X is stupid, why do you need that” or any such sentiment, GET OUT OF THIS BUSINESS. If you’re not prepared to learn and grow your skills each and every day, as well as keep up with the tools needed to do proper work, you’re in the wrong business. Figuring out new things and new systems I’ve never worked on before gives me the “warm fuzzies” like nothing else in life can, and I look forward to the challenges that lie ahead, even though I might get frustrated while working on it. If you’re a guy that only aspires to do low level work or never venture outside your comfort zone, you’ll likely get frustrated with the business due to “low pay” or “crap work”. When really if that’s all you aspire to, that’s all you’re going to get. Too many guys are happy to put out mediocre work and almost take pride in their ignorance of not being able to understand this “new shit”. It takes lots of effort to learn ad keep growing as a tech, and few of them are willing to do it.

Here's some more :grinpimp:

1. Minimize trips back and forth to get tools. Have a tool cart/box/bag etc. with the stuff you use the most so you can take it wherever and have almost everything at arms length. Walking back to your tool box/vehicle really eats up time.

2. Stay organized with your tools, digging through a drawer looking for a wrench, socket, etc. eats up a lot of time. Have everything where you can open the drawer and grab what you need WITHOUT looking.

3. Think a few steps ahead. While standing there turning a bolt, I think what the next part of the job is going to be and what tools will be needed. Some guys take a part off, stand back, look at what needs to come off next, take that off, stand back and look again, etc.

4. If using multiple sockets in the same drive size, have a couple ratchets for each drive size. Constantly switching sockets eats up time.

5. Do everything you can where you are at, don't waste energy and make unnecessary movements. E.g. do everything you can with the car on the ground before jacking it up. Do everything under the hood before going underneath, etc. Running back and forth between inside and under the hood wastes lots of time.

6. NEVER set tools/bolts/parts under the hood. Always set them in a magnetic tray, on a cart/bench or even just on a rag on the ground. Setting things under the hood is how they get dropped, lost or forgotten.

7. Obviously don't use hand tools when cordless, pneumatic or electric tools are available.


Ok fair enough, I do remember seeing those but they were so fucking basic I did not see the merit in them.

It was like saying my tip for a clean ass is to wipe it before you get off the toilet and pull your under ware back up.

Jimmy, serious suggestion. Write children's books on how to be a good mechanic, not joking with you, I think you might be real good at it.

This is a forum full of adults, your basic ass info is not needed here.
 
I take auto repair very seriously and am always trying to better my craft, and whenever I get a tip or trick that I come across or that another tech shares with me I always write it down and keep track of them so I can both remember them in the future and pass them along to anyone out there that needs them or is willing to hear them.


OK, here you go,

1) righty tight, lefty loosey,
2) 2 ugga dugga'a is always better than 1 ugga dugga when using your impact
3) use a fuck ton of anti-seize on everything that's not made out of rubber
4) a clean work space is a happy work space so sweep and mop it every hour or so
5) stay out of the way of guys actually working for a living
 
Ok fair enough, I do remember seeing those but they were so fucking basic I did not see the merit in them.

It was like saying my tip for a clean ass is to wipe it before you get off the toilet and pull your under ware back up.

Jimmy, serious suggestion. Write children's books on how to be a good mechanic, not joking with you, I think you might be real good at it.

This is a forum full of adults, your basic ass info is not needed here.

I've seen many techs who don't follow basic efficiency rules and their work suffers from it, just as I've seen techs get burned by a simple, basic problem (blown fuse, inaccurate tire pressure gauge, pinched hose, bad ground, loose connection, etc.) and went on a wild goose chase to fix a simple problem. Never forget the basics.

Here's an obscure one for you that I myself just learned the other day.

If you need to use a test light to verify power going to something, but it's in a spot where you can't see it and you are by yourself, make a test light out of a horn and use it to verify the power supply to a given component (i.e. brake lights, washer motor, etc.)

Not my idea, but still a very useful tip. Everybody can learn something from someone else, I don't give a fuck how "basic" it is. :flipoff2:
 
Jesus christ. I remember learning to work on cars in high school too.

Any other glorious insights from the "no shit" bucket you wanna share?


Motherfucker you act like I'm doing some horrible thing by actually trying to list this sort of "experienced based" knowledge down that usually just passes through word of mouth or by common sense. Trying to help other techs out, including myself, by making a list of all the various nuances and tricks that one learns doing this work makes me a ****? What the actual fuck?

Haven't you ever had a "no shit" idea AFTER it would've helped you out because it just didn't occur to you at the time? I know I and many other techs have had that experience, and I'm sure you're not above it either.
 
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Motherfucker you act like I'm doing some horrible thing by actually trying to list this sort of "experienced based" knowledge down that usually just passes through word of mouth or by common sense. Trying to help other techs out, including myself, by making a list of all the various nuances and tricks that one learns doing this work makes me a ****? What the actual fuck?

Because you are here trying to preach your shit on a bunch of people that have literally been there and done that already. Hence Rooney77 's "no shit" comment. Like I said in the other thread or maybe this one, you are barking up the wrong tree posting this crap here.
 
Motherfucker you act like I'm doing some horrible thing by actually trying to list this sort of "experienced based" knowledge down that usually just passes through word of mouth or by common sense. Trying to help other techs out, including myself, by making a list of all the various nuances and tricks that one learns doing this work makes me a ****? What the actual fuck?

Haven't you ever had a "no shit" idea AFTER it would've helped you out because it just didn't occur to you at the time? I know I and many other techs have had that experience, and I'm sure you're not above it either.

You're giving newb lessons to a site full of the best/most experienced and trying to sound knowledgeable. Sure there's a place for your "tips" but this ain't it. Find a newb tech thread on reddit and go pat yourself on the back there.

You seriously said that taking less trips to and from the toolbox is a good tip to improve efficiency (just one example of the level of basic). If that needs to be explained to someone then they don't need to reproduce.

Go onto the old website and look up the angry diff cover guy, you're doing the same shit just with dumbass tips instead of diff covers.
 
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Thank you for an actual reply to what I'm trying to talk about.

And I did not come here to "preach" to people or anything of the sort. I take auto repair very seriously and am always trying to better my craft, and whenever I get a tip or trick that I come across or that another tech shares with me I always write it down and keep track of them so I can both remember them in the future and pass them along to anyone out there that needs them or is willing to hear them. I don't know everything by any means, but I do notice patterns with both myself and other techs I've worked with both now and in the past and feel like there are things that not many other mechanics (if any at all) are discussing, and I feel there's always something to be learned. And IMO too many techs have the attitude of "Screw that guy I'm not helping him" or the attitude that their knowledge is somehow secret and they don't need to share it with anyone. I'll gladly help anyone who asks for it, and take tips and advice if I'm struggling with something or need a second set of eyes on something. Maybe that person sees things differently than me and can point me in a different direction, or maybe I could be that person.


Basically, I want my ideas and thoughts to be given the same consideration as everyone else's, and if I have an opinion that the majority of the group thinks is wrong I want to discuss it and understand why and maybe walk away a bit smarter, or at the very least have a conversation and at the end we can agree to disagree. I appreciate those select few here that want to have a genuine discussion of differing opinions and ideas without people getting butthurt or the "conversation" into a grade school level name calling fest. I have no problem with disagreement but I like a little explanation behind it, as I have been more than willing to explain my thought process behind doing things. Calling me a **** and telling me to shut up adds nothing to the conversation and neither person takes anything away from it besides anger and hostility. Differing opinions can be discussed without things getting personal.

And I believe if everyone just "did things their own way" and never discussed tips, tricks and differing methods of thought, everyone would become stunted and set in their ways instead of trying to constantly improve themselves. I'm hungry for that type of thing, auto repair is my passion in life, not just a "means to an end" to get a paycheck, like so many jobs are to so many people. I actually enjoy going into work and dealing with the challenges of the day and coming up with creative ways to not only get the job done, but to improve it and do it "better" each time, both in terms of quality and efficiency. I like the phrase "always content, never satisfied" because it describes me and my attitude towards my work. I want to be the "top dog" in my field, not a middle of the road, mediocre mechanic, and doing that takes lots of hard work and perseverance. But working smart has more advantages that just straight up working hard IMO.

Didn't come here to preach but writes a wall of text.
 
Oh really? What would you call this then? Not telling anyone what to do, mind you, just giving some tips that I've observed over the years and ways I feel lots of other techs get things "wrong" .

1. NEVER LIE OR BE DISHONEST WITH CUSTOMERS. There’s too much legitimate work on vehicles out there to EVER lie to a customer or feed them a line of BS. This is the biggest plague on the automotive industry. Guy’s will call a leaking oil pan and clean up the leak with brake cleaner, or only change one bank when doing a tune up because “the back ones are a PITA” If that’s your attitude, GTFO of this business.

2. Always make things easier for the next guy. Whether that’s spraying down tie rods and cam bolts to free them up before doing an alignment, putting anti seize (I’m starting to like Fluid Film for this application better) on hubs to prevent brake rotors from rusting on, or inside knuckles before replacing hub assemblies,etc. For instance, if I replace an outer tie rod, I will wire wheel the threads of the inner tie rod, run the jam nut back and forth to free it up for when an alignment is done. No sense in fighting with rusty, crusty stuff. Anti-seize goes on bolts that are known to either seize and snap off, such as Jeep Wrangler rear shock bolts, or seize in place, such as Chevy truck upper control arm cam bolts or Ram 1500 lower strut bolts.

3. Use the right tool for the job. Your hands are not hammers, don’t use your hands or legs to break things loose (kicking stick on wheels, hitting the ratchet/wrench/prybar with your hand to break a bolt loose,etc.). Your ratchet, wrench, impact, etc. are also not hammers. Don’t use SAE sockets on metric because it’s “close enough” (there are exceptions to this, such as 5/16 and 8mm). Don’t use a 1/2 impact and 2 reducers on a 7mm bolt. I’m so lazy I’ve gotten to the point to where I’ll rarely use an actual hammer, I prefer using the air hammer with a flat chisel bit to remove rotors, a pointed tip to get hub assemblies to spin in the knuckle and come right out. Saves wear and tear on your body too.

4. Torque wrenches exist for a reason, use them! With most things, once you get an experienced “feel” for how tight things should be, you can get pretty close with your hands or air/electric tools, but I still break out the the torque wrench for EVERY wheel I put on. Too many guys go gung-ho with the impact and make things WAY too tight. Even things as simple as oil filters. Bottom it out and give it 3/4 to 1 turn. I should NOT need a 1/2 breaker bar with a cheater pipe to take out an oil drain plug or oil filter, but I’ve been there.

5. Take care of your body. I wear safety glasses whenever I’m working on a vehicle, can’t risk screwing up my eyes, which seem to be magnets for dirt and oil/coolant/brake cleaner/brake fluid/transmission fluid. Been there, done that, no thanks. Won’t see me kneeling directly on concrete unless I downright have to. I have thick pieces of foam I’ve cut down and made a kneeling pad for when I’m racking up a vehicle on the lift. Didn’t for the first several years of doing mechanic work and my knees are already paying for it. Same with wearing gloves. I know the old timers will make fun of you and say you’re wearing “bitch mittens”, but I don’t know how they’ve done it all these years after seeing what their hands look like. Didn’t wear gloves either for the first few years but I quickly learned the advantage they provide.

6. Always be learning, never be content. Always be looking for the faster/easier way of doing something. Never do things the “hard” way if you can help it. Won’t see me breaking out an old school combination wrench or ratchet if I can help it. It’s all cordless/pneumatic whenever possible. Same goes for things like wire brush vs wire wheel. Once I wire brushed something a few times I’m like “fuck this” and break out the die grinder with a wire wheel.

7. Stay organized. Digging through a drawer full of sockets/wrenches/pliers or whatever is a waste of time. Keep your toolbox organized with everything in a designated spot. Socket rails and other organizers like that greatly aid in finding tools easily.

8. Don’t be a parts changer. Test, don’t guess. When you tell a customer that their car needs x part or x repair, let that be because you’ve gone through the steps to verify not only the problem, but have gone through all the diagnostic process needed to verify the actual cause of the problem. Too many guys just get a trouble code, look up the most common part replaced for that code and shotgun a part at the car. And yes that’ll work roughly 75% of the time. It’s that other 25 that gets you.

9. Take pride in your work. This goes with anything, but if something’s worth doing, it’s worth doing right. Do it right or don’t do it at all. Too many guys out there, when doing a brake job, don’t replace rattle clips, don’t lube caliper slides, don’t clean hubs before installing new rotors, etc. Putting “whatever” oil you have close by instead of the proper grade because “It doesn’t matter”. There’s many other examples of poor workmanship I can cite.

10. Have the right attitude towards your work. If you’re one of the guys in this field that whines and complains when you have to do something out of your comfort zone, or you find yourself saying “X is stupid, why do you need that” or any such sentiment, GET OUT OF THIS BUSINESS. If you’re not prepared to learn and grow your skills each and every day, as well as keep up with the tools needed to do proper work, you’re in the wrong business. Figuring out new things and new systems I’ve never worked on before gives me the “warm fuzzies” like nothing else in life can, and I look forward to the challenges that lie ahead, even though I might get frustrated while working on it. If you’re a guy that only aspires to do low level work or never venture outside your comfort zone, you’ll likely get frustrated with the business due to “low pay” or “crap work”. When really if that’s all you aspire to, that’s all you’re going to get. Too many guys are happy to put out mediocre work and almost take pride in their ignorance of not being able to understand this “new shit”. It takes lots of effort to learn ad keep growing as a tech, and few of them are willing to do it.



So you've been turning wrenches for what, 3-4 yrs ?

Everything you posted is common sense to anyone who's ever worked on anything. Nothing you said is earth shattering or even beyond basic knowledge
 
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