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Spiritof76

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After receiving word that I'm working from home indefinitely, I built out a shed office (built a shed, finished the interior). Our house is roughly 1,400 square feet (ranch), stucco. The shed is 30 feet from the house, and is at the farthest corner from the router.

I'm on xfinity service, and I purchased 3 of their meshnet router extenders, anticipating that it would work to get decent internet out to the sh-office. We have gigabit at the router, and I see excellent internet speed and stability throughout the house. In the sh-office, I have really poor service. With the meshnet devices on and connected to wifi, I have 3 of 3 bars on the wifi strength meter on my laptop, but I'm seeing 13Mbps download/upload.

With the meshnet devices on and hard-wired to the meshnet device in the sh-office, I have 10Mbps down/up.

With the meshnet devices off, I'm seeing 1/3 bars of signal strength but I get 28Mbps down and 14 up.

Running ethernet to the sh-office is not a feasible option. Is there a reasonable way to get faster and reliable wifi out to the sh-office? I'm probably only 60 feet from the router.
 
I\'ve got one of these NIB (removed from box, didnt work for me) I can send you to try out. Free if it will help you, forgot about it and missed the return window. \n\nI ended up with this. it works great. I have 4-5mbps in the house at the router, and 3-4mbps inside my steel clad pole barn 150\' away from the router. \n\nYeah... we pay $80/mo for 5mbps. been working from home on it since 03/19. Price you pay for living in the country.
 
30’ ?????

run a piece of conduit and a cat6 out there and be done with it.

You start in the morning, you’ll be done by lunch. It’ll work better than any other option and end up being significantly cheaper, even if you add a new wireless router/switch at the shed end.
 
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For 30ft just run a cable in pipe. Or heck, direct bury and hope you remember where it is

Mesh will lose half of speed per jump unless you use seperate radios/freqs.
 
Buy outdoor rated cat 6, poke a hole in the wall, stab it through and put a drip loop in it. Run it up the the eave and staple it along the fascia to where the shed is. Run overhead to shed and reverse the process described to get out of the house. Terminate and plug in both ends. Done.
 
kf4zht said:
For 30ft just run a cable in pipe.
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\n\nIf you\'re running through eth now, I would certainly do this. If you\'re using WiFi in the house I\'d just stick with it.\n\nI never had much luck with the small WiFi extenders, If you wander around the house or shop a lot you\'ll have connection issues as your computer decides what device to go through. I\'d look into a mesh system ... I used Google\'s for awhile and got good coverage, certainly out to my pole barn 150ft away. I\'m currently on Netgear\'s Orbi System because it got greater range .... I got 3.5 acres and I can now get wifi on my mower at the edges of my yard :homer:
 
If you don't want to run cable across the yard get a couple ubiquiti nanostations to make a point to point wireless bridge.
 
LOL nobody is buying your shill marketing "H-hey guyz, I need new wireless things to buy, I can't use wires!" nonsense.

Cat5/6 is so effective that just stringing it across the way as described above will work great. So will direct burying it.

You could just use a straight shovel, stick it in the ground and lever the dirt/grass aside, shove the Cat6 down there with a dowel, and work your way 30' no problem.
 
evernoob said:
LOL nobody is buying your shill marketing "H-hey guyz, I need new wireless things to buy, I can't use wires!" nonsense.

Cat5/6 is so effective that just stringing it across the way as described above will work great. So will direct burying it.

You could just use a straight shovel, stick it in the ground and lever the dirt/grass aside, shove the Cat6 down there with a dowel, and work your way 30' no problem.
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So where's the shill marketing taking place?
 
grumpy356 said:
30’ ?????

run a piece of conduit and a cat6 out there and be done with it.

You start in the morning, you’ll be done by lunch. It’ll work better than any other option and end up being significantly cheaper, even if you add a new wireless router/switch at the shed end.
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this. 100% this.
install one of your meshed routers in the shed with the wire and it will greatly imrpvoe the speed.

when you mesh APs using wireless for the backend you take very significant performance hits.
 
Spiritof76 said:
After receiving word that I'm working from home indefinitely, I built out a shed office (built a shed, finished the interior). Our house is roughly 1,400 square feet (ranch), stucco. The shed is 30 feet from the house, and is at the farthest corner from the router.

I'm on xfinity service, and I purchased 3 of their meshnet router extenders, anticipating that it would work to get decent internet out to the sh-office. We have gigabit at the router, and I see excellent internet speed and stability throughout the house. In the sh-office, I have really poor service. With the meshnet devices on and connected to wifi, I have 3 of 3 bars on the wifi strength meter on my laptop, but I'm seeing 13Mbps download/upload.

With the meshnet devices on and hard-wired to the meshnet device in the sh-office, I have 10Mbps down/up.

With the meshnet devices off, I'm seeing 1/3 bars of signal strength but I get 28Mbps down and 14 up.

Running ethernet to the sh-office is not a feasible option. Is there a reasonable way to get faster and reliable wifi out to the sh-office? I'm probably only 60 feet from the router.
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you need a hard core mesh net techie. It took my dude 5 hours of playing with detailed settings to get it working. With each little change it would drop way off or go way up on individual access points.
 
evernoob said:
You could just use a straight shovel, stick it in the ground and lever the dirt/grass aside, shove the Cat6 down there with a dowel, and work your way 30' no problem.
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this
if it ends up cut at some point just run another, cat 5e ain't spendy (still working through the three spools I found in a dumpster)
 
Worked with a guy back in 2000 that had a ethernet cable running out his front door, across the street and into his neighbors router. He said he had to replace it a couple times a year from the cars running over it. :homer: I think the direct bury with a shovel has merit. :laughing:
 
spork said:
Worked with a guy back in 2000 that had a ethernet cable running out his front door, across the street and into his neighbors router. He said he had to replace it a couple times a year from the cars running over it. :homer: I think the direct bury with a shovel has merit. :laughing:
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way back in the day we ran a cat 5 across the street from 2 upper story windows so we could have lan parties with the neighbors.

the ultimate "you're screen cheating" defense is to have both teams in separate houses.
 
spork said:
Worked with a guy back in 2000 that had a ethernet cable running out his front door, across the street and into his neighbors router. He said he had to replace it a couple times a year from the cars running over it. :homer: I think the direct bury with a shovel has merit. :laughing:
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Or if you want to get fancy just spend $100 on renting a trencher for a few hours to make sure it's safe.
 
TheFlyingDildocupine said:
Or if you want to get fancy just spend $100 on renting a trencher for a few hours to make sure it's safe.
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Then you got to call the "call before you dig" people, have someone come out and mark the lines, and even then you are about guaranteed to hit a phone line or something. they missed.

Shallow, narrow trench, with small diameter PVC conduit, or direct burial.


And most walk behind trenchers I have experience with will work you harder than a shovel for 30'
 
With Xfinity chances are the Coax feeding your house is only buried shovel deep to begin with. I wouldn't hesitate to grab some direct bury Cat5e or Cat6 and run it to your shed, put it in PVC conduit with an extra pull string if you feel the need for physical protection or future replacement. Buy in bulk and terminate the ends your self.
 
I appreciate the Irate way suggestion of running a cable, and I agree that'd the most reliable.

But I really wasn't fucking around when I said it wasn't an option. The 30' between the house and the Sh-office is concrete in all directions. There's a pool, a patio, and a parking space for our travel trailer. There is no route that requires crossing less than 12' of concrete. It's really not an option. If it was, I'd have done it by now. I have one conduit that runs under the concrete and provides power to the sh-office which I was damn lucky to have (previous homeowner had it there), and it's stuffed full of power. There's no way to get an ethernet cable in it. Unless I'm stringing it overhead (which I'm not), wired isn't happening.

Back to the original question. If I'm picking between internet over power lines and a mesh network, what would y'all recommend?

(In before someone tells me it's not that hard to open cut concrete).
 
it's not that hard to run wire under concrete
:flipoff2:

IF you can be certain to put the powerline units on the same circuit, they work OK.
If you can't get them on the same circuit, or even the same leg, they work like shit.
It may be easier to add in a duplex outlet in the house on the same circuit.

I've used these
https://www.amazon.com/Powerline-Et...&s=pc&sr=1-5&ts_id=1194444&tag=91812054244-20
they average about 100 ish mbps.
but they do the job for my buddies garage so he can stream music.
His are setup on adjacent breakers in the box. It's worth finding at least adjacent ones on the same leg to make them not suck so bad.
 
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