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I don't ever recall seen 1 of these let along 2, maybe we can find a blue one next.
Blue bus and orange truck, both 1700s. Orange dump truck. All 4x4s. My wife says I have a sickness.
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Blue bus and orange truck, both 1700s. Orange dump truck. All 4x4s. My wife says I have a sickness.
How's the cab?Just thought I'd add one more Loadstar 1700 4x4 while it's still around. It's actually too far gone to restore - very rusted out and the frame has a big crack under the cab. My plans are to rebuild the front axle and put it under my rust-free Loadstar to convert it to 4wd.
Surprisingly the cab itself isn't too bad - the floor is rusty but not rusted through. Same with the doors - and they shut and latch perfectly. If it wasn't such a big job to remove the cab, I might consider selling the cab eventually along with the Rockwell transfer case. I have a much better Dana/Spicer 4-speed transfer case.
Exactly.
Well, if you think anyone might be interested, I could always put the whole truck up for sale. I could either include my front non-drive axle from my good truck or a front drive axle from an '80's S-Series Loadstar 4x4. Same hub type, load rating, axle ratio etc its just wider, a lot wider.
Grendel undoubtedly wants the cab.
What's the ratio on the other front drive axle you'd be willing to sell? Is it a Coleman, Spicer 9,000lb axle, or something else?
Actually the axle was designed by Napco, built by Dana exclusively for IH, per Dana tech support. It's rated at 9,000lb. The knuckle ball is larger than a Dana 70 and no parts from a Dana 70 will fit it. Surprisingly parts are still available for it from both Navistar (using IH part numbers) and Dana (using Dana part numbers). However the parts (seals, felts, bearings etc) cost almost exactly 3 times more from Navistar. I know because I bought all the parts (seals, gaskets, new drain plug etc) everything I thought I might need in rebuilding it and bringing it up to my standards. However those parts don't go with it because they also fit my Loadstar's parts truck axle.
Thanks for the info. Skipped my mind that these were Dayton hubs and the ratios/width wouldn't work anyways unfortuantely. Very cool axle though. I hear they have 1.75" shafts? Did you post about this on Pirate many years ago? The pics look familiar.Actually the axle was designed by Napco, built by Dana exclusively for IH, per Dana tech support. It's rated at 9,000lb. The knuckle ball is larger than a Dana 70 and no parts from a Dana 70 will fit it. Surprisingly parts are still available for it from both Navistar (using IH part numbers) and Dana (using Dana part numbers). However the parts (seals, felts, bearings etc) cost almost exactly 3 times more from Navistar. I know because I bought all the parts (seals, gaskets, new drain plug etc) everything I thought I might need in rebuilding it and bringing it up to my standards. However those parts don't go with it because they also fit my Loadstar's parts truck axle.
The pumpkin is the same as a IH RA-30 and has a ratio of 7.17. No locker. It has Dayton spoke wheel hubs and locking part-time hubs. It's too wide to work on a 60-78 Loadstar, only an S-Series Loadstar or other wide truck from the very late 70's onward. It's either a FA-64 or FA-78 with a corresponding IH code of either 02064 or 02078. I have not been able to find any difference between the two in the IH parts books. It tips the scales, with hubs and brakes attached but no wheels, at 1260 lbs. It was made for 3 in. wide leaf springs but I'm sure any width spring will work ok on it. What else would you like to know about it?
Thanks.
I possibly did when I first got it a couple years ago when I thought it would work under my Loadstar. The ratio and wheel hub type was correct for my truck, but it was just too wide. At that time I posted on Pirate and a couple IH forums as I was looking for info on this axle. I had no idea exactly what it was from or how to order basic parts for it. Yeah, their axle shafts are meaty but I never measured them. But it has the rzeppa type joint instead of the standard u-joint.
any chance you want to sell off all the drivers' door guts? mainly latch and all corresponding hardware, and maybe the window regulator too? actuator rods, etc? got a feeler out to someone on Binder Planet too. On the hunt...Just thought I'd add one more Loadstar 1700 4x4 while it's still around. It's actually too far gone to restore - very rusted out and the frame has a big crack under the cab. My plans are to rebuild the front axle and put it under my rust-free Loadstar to convert it to 4wd.
Pretty sure they interchange and that I have C1200 doors/ parts on my travel crew cab.
