I bought a shop.

[Talon2006]

Well you could probably negate some of the reduced a/c performance in a couple ways. Where ever the exhaust exits the building it should have some kind of flapper valve so when you are not welding and extractor is off it will remain more or less sealed. Obviously that is going to be an air leak so maybe look into what your best option for the vent would be. HVAC guys might know.

If you have an overhead hood over dedicated fab table maybe you could have those dark plastic sheets (forget the name of those, they sheild bystanders from arc rays) hanging around the perimeter to make a semi-enclosed welding area.

Or instead of the hood, if you have the tube type extractor hose going to fab table I have an idea, hear me out.... I have seen people make 'grinding tables'. It is very similar to a cutting table, but more of a flat top with dozens of 1/2 holes on the top and under the table you have a box fan that pulls all the dust rust and chunks down into the table rather than all over everywhere. So if you took that same table, only instead of a box fan you have the extractor hose sucking the fumes down into the table. Not sure how much suction/volume would be needed to make it actually work. Probably easier just to position the extractor hose where you need it. I dunno, just an idea

Grinding table: https://youtu.be/q6lKa_P1X2Q

I do love his grinding table. Welding tips and tricks made one kind of like the tube style you describe. I will have to try to find that video again.

 

[arse_sidewards]

I use the HF dust collector blower for my fume extractor and it kicks ass. There's a nice little pile of slag on the ground outside where it dumps out.

 

[Talon2006]

Decided to play around with fusion and shop layout, some of those pics are a VF4, some are a VF2. Picked an actual size dodge mega cab dually as any project I have will most likely not be that large. The glass box around it is what I consider No mans land... an area only to wrench/fab/work on a project... though most likely I’ll do it in the driveway for more space.

my cnc plasma is in the bottom right corner. Welding table is 60x40. Really the only things missing are my drill press and tubing bender.

im not sure if I rather have the pallet racks or cabinets on the wall.... or if I will use both, I can also see removing the bottom shelf to fit my welders and stuff under.

two snap on 56” tool boxes. I am missing my MAC tools service cart. I am also missing a air compressor, that will go outside in a cabinet and also raw material
storage... but I will probably build a shed/pool house for that.

 

[bdkw1]

So, where do you plan on cutting out the truss's to get the head on the mill to clear?

 

[Talon2006]

So, where do you plan on cutting out the truss's to get the head on the mill to clear?

That is not the mill that will be going in there... just the mill that is the right size to use for estimation services.

That being said there are PLENTY of thread on practical machinist and CNC zone about fitting the head between rafters. :P

 

[bgaidan]

That is not the mill that will be going in there... just the mill that is the right size to use for estimation services.

That being said there are PLENTY of thread on practical machinist and CNC zone about fitting the head between rafters. :P

I have to drop the head on my bridgeport cnc knee mill just to get it in/out of my current garage and the encoder on top only clears the ceiling by an inch or two. Can't wait to get to my new plae that has 12'+ ceilings!

 

[Talon2006]

I have to drop the head on my bridgeport cnc knee mill just to get it in/out of my current garage and the encoder on top only clears the ceiling by an inch or two. Can't wait to get to my new plae that has 12'+ ceilings!

You say in and out like you move it often? That sounds like a bitch!

I am actually somewhat considering a tear down and outting up a 40X60 just so I can move a cnc mill in and not have to move it again!

 

[bdkw1]

I have 12' walls and my VF4 fit's nicely.

 

[bgaidan]

You say in and out like you move it often? That sounds like a bitch!

I am actually somewhat considering a tear down and outting up a 40X60 just so I can move a cnc mill in and not have to move it again!

No, just the move-in and now getting ready to move it. It's a rigid ram machine, so no nodding or rotating head. Only way to do it is removal....luckily the PO gave me a jig that mounts to the table and a tool holder so you can use the table to pull it away and then the knee to lower it down.

 

[Talon2006]

I have 12' walls and my VF4 fit's nicely.

Are you runnning it off a phase converted, or are you lucky enough to have three phase?

 

[bdkw1]

are you runnning it off a phase converted, or are you lucky enough to have three phase?

40hp rfc.

 

[Talon2006]

40hp rfc.

How many 1 phase camps do you need to feed it?

 

[bdkw1]

How many 1 phase camps do you need to feed it?

The house has a 200A panel. The shop has a 100A sub panel. I ran 2G aluminum wire for the sub, it's about a 90' run. It's marginal I think but if it gets to be an issue I can replace it with copper and be good.

 

[Talon2006]

The house has a 200A panel. The shop has a 100A sub panel. I ran 2G aluminum wire for the sub, it's about a 90' run. It's marginal I think but if it gets to be an issue I can replace it with copper and be good.

That pretty cool.





I forget if I updated this thread or not, but I am doing a 400 amp service upgrade at the house, and am running a 225 amp panel to the garage.

 

[bdkw1]

Yeah, I wish i had bigger service, but not worth doing to this house. Next time though. Right now I have to pick what I'm doing. Cant have the mill running and start blasting away on some aluminum with the TIG. Then you throw in the compressor and AC and shit really goes south.

 

[The War Wagon]

Uploaded the wrong photo.

She looks THRILLED about this purchase.

 

[Talon2006]

Yeah, I wish i had bigger service, but not worth doing to this house. Next time though. Right now I have to pick what I'm doing. Cant have the mill running and start blasting away on some aluminum with the TIG. Then you throw in the compressor and AC and shit really goes south.

I am hoping with the 225 to the garage I can run the compressor, a cnc mill, tig weld and have the AC/Beer fridge going. Atleast that is my goal. I also plan on a much smaller mill then your Vf4... I am thinking a Fadal VMC15Xt will be perfect. 30X15X15, but a way smaller package then the VF2 with the same travels, 7.5 HP and I think some are already set up single phase.

I cant see myself needing much more then 7.5 HP....

 

[bdkw1]

Why on earth would anyone buy a Fadal by choice? You would be better off with a proto-trak.

 

[Talon2006]

So, Getting power by the end of this week, then I will be running the circuits inside, then insulation then finishing the walls.

Except I think I have run into an issue..... The garage is built with 2x4 frames, then had T1-11 nailed right to the 2x4's. There is not any type of wrap, sheathing or vapor barrier under the T1-11. I have also noticed that I will need to replace a few of the t1-11 panels. I am assuming, putting faced batt insulation up against the T1-11 is going to give me problems, so what should I do in this situation?

Am I going to need to rip apart every wall so I can wrap the garage, and then sheath/foam then put T1-11 on top?? Searching the internet seems to not really give me direction on this.

 

[Firstram]

Your climate/moisture drive will determine where the vapor barrier goes. Where do you live? You could always treat the T-111 as sheathing. Take care of the repairs now, wrap it and cover it with nicer siding when you have the time/$.

 

[Talon2006]

Your climate/moisture drive will determine where the vapor barrier goes. Where do you live? You could always treat the T-111 as sheathing. Take care of the repairs now, wrap it and cover it with nicer siding when you have the time/$.

I am located in Houston... so very high humidity,