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How much is this toilet seat worth?


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May 20, 2020
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Hollywood, Florida
Any guess?

All the coins are 1922 to 1929 plus a couple that are 1889. Overall there are 48 coins in it.


Assuming there is nothing special with the coins $22-$35 each depending on the condition after you removed them.

Where did you happen upon this?
Its junk silver so 22.00 each if you could get them out without damage.

As 48*22.00=1056
I think the 1889 could be worth $200+ if they have the CC mint mark, if I remember correctly.
That's pretty rad. My mom has a decent collection of old silver dollars and fitty cent pieces. She used to buy all the "odd" coins from the registers and save them and them cash them in to go travelling to visit her best friend. All the good coins got saved. I know she has a bunch from the 1800s.
Yep, a heat gun makes epoxy soft, and a soak in acetone will remove any left on the coins.
Looks like it could be yours for the cost of a flathead screwdriver:flipoff2:
Got to be worth at least what a 1980s government toilet seat went for, $600.

Did you read the article you posted or any of its sources?

Beginning in 1981, Reagan began an expansion in the size and capabilities of the US armed forces, which entailed major new expenditures on weapons procurement. By the mid-1980s, the spending became a scandal when the Project on Government Oversight reported that the Pentagon had vastly overpaid for a wide variety of items, most notoriously by paying $435 for a hammer,[SUP][1][/SUP] $600 for a toilet seat, and $7,000 for an aircraft coffee maker.[SUP][2][/SUP] In fact, these numbers were inaccurate; they were an accounting convenience rather than the actual cost of the materials.[SUP][1][/SUP]



"You want how much for a beer?!' asks the patron of a bar in the cartoon strip "Motley's Crew.'

"Four bucks,' the bartender replies.

Says the patron: "That must be the same outfit that sells hammers to the Pentagon.'

Claw hammers, to be exact. The kind you buy at your local hardware store for between $7 and $10; billed to the Pentagon for $435 a piece. In the three years since the story broke, the $435 hammer has become synonymous with waste in the Department of Defense (DOD). From Beetle Bailey to Walter Mondale, everyone has expressed outrage at this apparent swindle. The hammer contract has been investigated by Congress, discussed during the 1984 presidential debates, and used as Exhibit A by politicians, journalists, and businessmen in their recent calls for military reform.

But here's the rub: the DOD didn't pay $435for a hammer. It's a good bet we paid too much for it (for reasons related in part to something called the equal allocation method and in part to larger problems in defense procurement). But the Pentagon didn't pay nearly $428 too much.

Hints of a rip-off

In 1981 the Navy decided to offer a sole-source contract to the electronics company that manufactured the flight instrument trainer for the T-34C aircraft. That made the Simulation Systems Division of Gould, Inc., the lone provider of a comprehensive list of more than 400 different parts needed to keep trainers in the field in good repair. In June 1982, the Naval Training Equipment Center (NTEC) at Orlando, Florida, issued the contract. Of the items ordered, some were peculiar to the trainer and would have to be manufactured by Gould; others, known as "buy-and-sell items,' could be bought at an ordinary hardware store. Since the Gould plant is located on Long Island, the job of reviewing and negotiating Gould's proposal fell to the Defense Contract Administration Services Management Area (DCASMA) in Garden City, New York.

An outpost of the Defense Logistics Agency,DCASMA Garden City does a variety of tasks for the buying offices of the military. A man whom I shall call Dave Johnson, an administrative contracting officer there, was put in charge of the proposal. In November, his negotiating team brought Gould's price down from $896,011 to $847,000. This came close to the recommended price resulting from reports by an engineer, a price analyst, and a Defense Contract Audit Agency (DCAA) auditor. Johnson submitted his memo of negotiation and a contractual amendment to the Garden City Board of Review, whose five members saw nothing wrong with it. Then, after Gould had signed the amendment, he too signed it, making it legal and binding. The price it showed for the claw hammer was $435.

Why did no one protest? Because the equal allocation formula makes line item prices meaningless. Under this system the line item price does not reflect the item's true value. The equal allocation method calculates prices for large numbers of items in a contract by assigning "support' costs such as indirect labor and overhead equally to each item. Take a contract to provide spare parts for a set of radar tracking monitors. Suppose a monitor has 100 parts and support costs amount to a total of $100,000. Using the equal allocation method each part is assigned $1,000 in such costs, even though one item may be a sophisticated circuit card assembly, which requires the attention of high-salaried engineers and managers, and another item may be a plastic knob. Add $1,000 to the direct cost of the part and you get a billing price. This is what the government is billed, though not what the part is really worth--the circuit card being undervalued, the knob being overvalued. The need for billing prices arises because contractors want to be paid up front for items that are shipped earlier than others.

The problem with the equal allocation method is that it's easier for contractors to overstate support costs when negotiating one price for all of these costs in a contract instead of haggling over them for each individual line item. And if the Pentagon doesn't know the real price it is paying for each spare part, it is also difficult for it to determine whether it is spending too much in support costs.

Few people are familiar with the price distortions created by this method. When the chief petty officer in the repair department of a naval air station in Florida saw the unit-price list for the T-34C trainer in 1983, he started asking how anyone in his right mind could have paid $435 for a common hammer. His inquiries led to press stories and investigations by a number of agencies including the Navy Audit Service which, on May 27, reported that the Gould contract contained "excess costs of about $729,000.'

So they sold the Pentagon a $6 hammer for $10 and ripped them a new on in support costs. Now the Government has dedicated employees who search out examples of when a company is screwing them for a setup fee or some other BS "service" charge that gets tacked on. If the company is found to be in violation there is an array of options available including fines and jail time for the offenders and management.

Neat toilet seat OP.
2 Pages in and no one has said WTF is this thing? Who the fuck encases those in a toilet seat?
2 Pages in and no one has said WTF is this thing? Who the fuck encases those in a toilet seat?

Years ago I was at a house that had a clear resin toilet seat setup and it was full of coins and bills. I asked the homeowner if he got it in Las Vegas. He said no, Reno but was impressed by my guess.:homer::laughing:
For clarification this has Nothing to do with Bob Vila. And there might be more than one of these toilet seats in this house. The guy is very well connected to American history. As in 1860 era presidential campaign management family ties.
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