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Harbor Freight at SEMA - US General Series 3 and other Updates

I have no less than a dozen of the bigger and small wood dollies and they're pretty shitty. And I doubt any of mine are loaded close to capacity. For the price, they work fine to store stuff and occasionally move it around, but I could see spending more heavier ones or dual purpose ones for something heavier that I need to move regularly.
 
Really? People buy a single $150 1300# wheel dolly to throw a scrap of plywood on when you can get a 1000# dolly for $10? Or even one with the wood already on it for $30? Not to mention with the tire rollers and ratchet arm in the way the wheel dollies would be pretty awkward to use as a regular dolly.

I would assume he meant this style and not the fancy lifting type :flipoff2:

 
Really? People buy a single $150 1300# wheel dolly to throw a scrap of plywood on when you can get a 1000# dolly for $10? Or even one with the wood already on it for $30? Not to mention with the tire rollers and ratchet arm in the way the wheel dollies would be pretty awkward to use as a regular dolly.
Because the casters blow off of the wood dollys at weights the wheel dolly doesn't blink twice at. And when you're done using it you can use it for vehicle shit.

I have both in my "fleet".

I would assume he meant this style and not the fancy lifting type :flipoff2:

Yes. Those ones and they used to be $5.
 
Except those are only 750# each - which is 250# less than the $10 version... And those are sold in pairs...

EDIT: Sorry. Those are 1500# each. Why does HF rate some things individually and other similar items as a pair?
 
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I would assume he meant this style and not the fancy lifting type :flipoff2:


I like how low-pro those things are, but they only lasted about 2 days in the shop. The casters bent under the back-end of a full side truck. We were definitely pushing the limits, though I doubt it was over 3000lbs.
 
I like how low-pro those things are, but they only lasted about 2 days in the shop. The casters bent under the back-end of a full side truck. We were definitely pushing the limits, though I doubt it was over 3000lbs.
Mine lives with three of those big flip top bins you see for office movers full of 3rd members with 5/16 chain poured into all the dead space. Haven't broke it yet.
 
The Series 3 information is starting to drop...

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I need to buy a 56" series 2 before they phase it out but I can't bring myself to spend the money.
 
I picked up a 56" roll cab last spring for $850 with a coupon. Unfortunately, a year earlier it was $150 cheaper than that.

Judging from the 72" clearance deals, keep your eye out for upcoming deals as they make room for the Series 3 stuff.
 
Im really surprised SEMA would allow chink freight on the premises.

In my defense, I'm remembering the sema shows in Las Vegas from the early 1980's.
 
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roll cab is like $900 without the coupon now. Fairly easy to get them lower than that.
But still... I guess I'm a cheap ass.
Through 2021 the price rose from $700 to $800 to $850 to $900 - where it still sits.
It's looking like the Series 3 stuff is coming with a price increase. I'd have liked to get boxes in the Slate Gray color and the full width drawer latches would be nice, but other than that I can't say that any of the updates really affect me - I don't need a secure hutch in the home shop and I store power tools elsewhere, so don't need the power drawer.
For the price, they're a pretty good bang for the buck.

Im really surprised SEMA would allow chink freight on the premises.
I've got to say that in the past couple years HF has really upped their game. Sure, they still have the "disposable" tools, but the ICON, Doyle, and Daytona (along with others) stuff they've been bringing out has impressed me.
Not to mention that SEMA had other Chinese importers on site, such as this:
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What upsets me more is the amount of import stuff that even Snap-On is selling these days. For the premium they want you to pay, I'd expect more from them.
 
Well, that is interesting. I wonder how garbage these are?


Full JF body in primer for 550 US. Shipping probably makes it 3k...
It should be closer to $11K
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That's about right. I was looking at them on Alibaba a while back. My my limited Alibaba importing experience, you'll pay a 30% tariff on fabricated metal goods, probably $1200 in sea freight plus another $1000-1500 in broker and port fees. So maybe $15-16k.

If you had a good rolling chassis/driveline and most of the finishing bits, it's probably reasonable.....considering what a cherry FJ seems to sell for.

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roll cab is like $900 without the coupon now.
Fairly easy to get them lower than that.

But still... I guess I'm a cheap ass.


Gonne be interesting to see if they fire sale them for any cheaper than the Feb. deal on the 72's.

This is what I paid. Still waiting for my top cabinet to come in though...
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If you had a good rolling chassis/driveline and most of the finishing bits, it's probably reasonable.....considering what a cherry FJ seems to sell for.

Considering what the Central/South American "refurbished" ones are going for on BaT, you could probably make some money building FJs.

This is what I paid. Still waiting for my top cabinet to come in though...

At this point I'd be wondering if I was going to get it at all. The 72" top chests don't even show up on the HF website any more and the roller cabinet shows up, but is unavailable.
 
Cheap ass sometimes :lmao:
I did buy another LS (6.2 this time) and it didn't even phase me.
I guess I'll keep working on expensive junk with a tool bag in my shop.

Gonne be interesting to see if they fire sale them for any cheaper than the Feb. deal on the 72's.

This is what I paid. Still waiting for my top cabinet to come in though...
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That is a solid deal !
 
I picked up a 56" roll cab last spring for $850 with a coupon. Unfortunately, a year earlier it was $150 cheaper than that.

Judging from the 72" clearance deals, keep your eye out for upcoming deals as they make room for the Series 3 stuff.

Rumor is price on the new 72" box is $1,800. That's nuts for a harbor freight.

I paid $329 for a 44" top box 3 years ago, now that box is $429. With the prices of everything they are on their way up in price. It was a decent box though I didn't regret trading it in on a snapon one bit.

I think harbor freight is starting to price themselves out of the home jobber tool box game. A 72x24" deep, 2" deep than the us general, home depot box is $1,400 and the 80" bottom box/ hutch/ locker combo is $1,800 which is still spendy though the 72" bottom/ hutch combo is supposed to be $2,600. While the husky boxes don't feel as sturdy as the China freight boxes $400 difference for a bottom box starts to add up.
 
Rumor is price on the new 72" box is $1,800. That's nuts for a harbor freight.

I paid $329 for a 44" top box 3 years ago, now that box is $429. With the prices of everything they are on their way up in price. It was a decent box though I didn't regret trading it in on a snapon one bit.

I think harbor freight is starting to price themselves out of the home jobber tool box game. A 72x24" deep, 2" deep than the us general, home depot box is $1,400 and the 80" bottom box/ hutch/ locker combo is $1,800 which is still spendy though the 72" bottom/ hutch combo is supposed to be $2,600. While the husky boxes don't feel as sturdy as the China freight boxes $400 difference for a bottom box starts to add up.
It's night and day from the current HF line to anything at the big box stores. If the series 3 stuff is better, I don't think they'll have any problem moving them. Already starting to see more and more in professional settings.


What would a similar 72" box of a tool truck cost?
 
Rumor is price on the new 72" box is $1,800. That's nuts for a harbor freight.

That's what's listed in the graphic I posted on the Series 3 a few posts up - along with prices for top box and hutch.

But before the clearance deals, the 72" Series 2 box was $1700 and they were selling them. Of course, they regularly had $100 off coupons if not more.

It's night and day from the current HF line to anything at the big box stores.

And that's still what I'm seeing. If it is cheaper than the HF boxes, you notice the cheapness. If it's as good or better, it's more expensive than the HF boxes.

A Snap-On Classic 72" roll cab is about $10K~$11K. An Epiq 68" roll cab is about $15K~$19K.

 
It's night and day from the current HF line to anything at the big box stores. If the series 3 stuff is better, I don't think they'll have any problem moving them. Already starting to see more and more in professional settings.


What would a similar 72" box of a tool truck cost?

I'll agree the harbor freight boxes are better quality than the home depot junk. I'm not sure what the price point it'll make a difference with DIY guys. Right now the China freight box is $400 more than a comparable husky, I'm not sure if that's justifiable for holding tools in a home garage or not. Start increasing that gap some more and it's going to be hard to justify.

That's what's listed in the graphic I posted on the Series 3 a few posts up - along with prices for top box and hutch.

But before the clearance deals, the 72" Series 2 box was $1700 and they were selling them. Of course, they regularly had $100 off coupons if not more.



And that's still what I'm seeing. If it is cheaper than the HF boxes, you notice the cheapness. If it's as good or better, it's more expensive than the HF boxes.

A Snap-On Classic 72" roll cab is about $10K~$11K. An Epiq 68" roll cab is about $15K~$19K.


No one pays close to retail for a tool truck box off the tool truck. My coworker picked up a 72"x29" master series last year for $7k new off the truck, it retails for $14k, my rep picked it up for a decent deal at the snapon show and was sitting on it for a bit. A 72"x24" classic should be around $6k off the truck depending on how the rep bought it. If you are willing to buy an in stock box off the truck snapon makes a run of several 1,000 of 1 particular box and offers them to dealers for truck stock the deal is usually better than ordering a box. My box at work retails for $13,500, I paid $7,500 with a $2,100 trade in credit.

Another thing to consider when comparing China Freight boxes to other boxes is the China Freight boxes are only 22" deep. Going from a 22" deep box to a 30" deep box opened up all kinds of extra room.

The extreme tools/ tool vault stuff is still kinda the middle ground between big box stores and tool trucks.
 
I realize that you almost never pay retail for Snap-On. I say almost never because I knew a guy who spec'd his box all out online, printed it out, and told his rep that was what he wanted. The rep was more than happy to take that windfall - and tell others the story!

Still, you're arguing about a $400 difference between Husky and USG, but you put over four times the USG cost into a Snap-On box. For me, even in a commercial setting that isn't worth it. The tools in the box make me money. The box doesn't. I've got USG both at home and at the shop. The only guy in the shop with a shiny tool truck box also drives a Tesla and weekly shows he doesn't comprehend the basic fundamentals of what he is working on.

Honestly, I'd like to buy stuff from someplace other than HF if I felt the value was there and the stuff wasn't made in China. Unfortunately, that is no longer the case. Going to Home Depot, Lowes, Tractor Supply, or about any other "big box" store and it is all China stuff as well - and typically lower quality. The other issue is that it seems every time I go into one of those other stores they have something different. HF at least has a lineup that I can add to over time. To me, HF has a level of quality that I feel is equal to the price. Is everyone going to agree? Of course not.

Yes, the tool truck boxes are nicer than my USG box, but they're not 2x, 3x, 4x, or 5x nicer - at least to me...

As for depth, where I have my box tucked in I don't have the floor space at home for deeper drawers - the eight inches would get in the way and sixteen more inches for the box plus pulling out the drawer would be a lot of real estate. Things get lost toward the back of the drawers as it is too.
 
Well, I was at HF this afternoon and asked the manager about my missing top box. He said there's a chance that corporate oversold the orange 72" top boxes and were reaching out to affected customers. He didn't know what they are going to do about it yet, but there were at least 2 other customers from that store that are also still waiting. Said they might possibly give us a gen 3 top box. :smokin:
 
It looks like they're selling the display models.

Earlier in the week the website showed the gray roll cab and hutch available at my local store (see above image) - and three other stores "nearby" with them. Was in the area this morning, so stopped in. Empty floor along the cabinet lineup. The store was busy, so I didn't ask anyone and just figured they didn't have it unpacked yet - which I thought was odd given the excitement over them.

Came home and checked the website. Only one store with a 72" roll cab - a gray one - "nearby" at 145 miles from me. No other colors "nearby." Four "nearby" stores - from 100 to 145 miles away - show gray hutches available. No other colors. Five "nearby" - 100 to 200 miles away - stores show gray top boxes available. No other colors.

Some of them (roll cab, top box, hutch) and some of the colors say in store order only while others say available online later in May.

For as much as they were saying "available May 1st" and making a big deal about the release of Series 3, it seems kind of strange that they're not even keeping them in the stores for you to look at. I'm not in the market for any of it since I bought my roll cab a year ago, but I'd want to see one in person before I placed my order.
 
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