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So does the guy have a salt water boat?

He says its open loop cooling system?
 
white-rhino said:
I live on a popular largemouth bass lake where there are 2-3 tournaments each year. Never see prop rods on any of the boats at the launch. We live in an area with a very high concentration of lakes in addition to Lake St Clare, St Clare River and Detroit River, which all are very heavily fished.
Maybe people run them in other parts of the country but not around here.

Maybe people don’t use them because of close proximity to the water, which could be said for coastal salt water boating also.
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You won't see them anymore because they are made different now.

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redneckengineered said:
I'm sorry but that shit is retarded :lmao:

Get a good brass drain plug and then get a second for when you drop the good one in the water and don't want your weekend ruined. Any other gimmicky type drain plug is nonsense.
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You literally suggest getting a second plug for when you lose the first:homer:
 
redneckengineered said:
If you've never lost anything overboard, you are either full of shit or you live in the desert.

He says he wants to store his boat on a lift. If he's pulling the drain plug on a lift, he's gonna want a spare.
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Why the fuck you think I put in a drain plug that doesn't leave the boat?
 
CarterKraft said:
Why the fuck you think I put in a drain plug that doesn't leave the boat?
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That's a gimmicky piece of shit that no serious boater (especially in salt) would ever run. Better to have two good brass ones than that junk. I'm sure it works great in your bass boat.

Bacho said:
The cool kids have threaded plugs tethered to the boat. :homer:
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Yes, I've seen some nice brass ones drilled for a stainless tether that bolts somewhere inside the bilge.
 
Since WaterHorse is a machinist :stirthepot: he should just roll his own.
This is a DIY version of a Gemlux plug that allows you to install it angled up and possibly remove/install it from the inside if the boat is stored on a lift.
All METAL to not trigger the :rainbow:

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WTF? said:
pro tip: keep a whistle on the boat keychain and it's never a problem when you get inspected


This is my holiday weekend setup with a throwable in sight on both sides of the console, and (knock on wood) water cops leave me alone.
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I plan to throw a whistle in the glove box, but I want the horn to work.

This business about the throwable. I have one in the side sliding door compartment. It takes seconds to get. Are you saying they will give me shit? I don’t want it out. I like my stuff neat and orderly and I’m not going to have some stupid cushion laying out.

Bacho said:
The cool kids have threaded plugs tethered to the boat. :homer:
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Mine plug came with a stainless teather about a 1/2” long that is frizzed at the end. I guess it wouldn’t be too hard to fix it up. I kind of like the idea of making my own remote access drain plug. I have a couple ideas.

Edit, had to google “transom saver” to see what you guys were talking about. I think I could make something that would keep the foot from going down pretty easy. I can’t really see that hydro stuff failing. I mean I’m driving a full hydro steering truck. I don’t have anything saving me from that.
 
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WaterH said:
This business about the throwable. I have one in the side sliding door compartment. It takes seconds to get. Are you saying they will give me shit? I don’t want it out. I like my stuff neat and orderly and I’m not going to have some stupid cushion laying out.
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I have no idea about coast guard or FL DNR, but I've been checked in Indiana and Michigan and never had an issue with one kept in an under-seat compartment.
 
WaterH said:
I plan to throw a whistle in the glove box, but I want the horn to work.

This business about the throwable. I have one in the side sliding door compartment. It takes seconds to get. Are you saying they will give me shit? I don’t want it out. I like my stuff neat and orderly and I’m not going to have some stupid cushion laying out.



Mine plug came with a stainless teather about a 1/2” long that is frizzed at the end. I guess it wouldn’t be too hard to fix it up. I kind of like the idea of making my own remote access drain plug. I have a couple ideas.

Edit, had to google “transom saver” to see what you guys were talking about. I think I could make something that would keep the foot from going down pretty easy. I can’t really see that hydro stuff failing. I mean I’m driving a full hydro steering truck. I don’t have anything saving me from that.
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Throwable can be stored, you just need to be able to access it when called upon.

Transom saver :lmao: Don't waste your time that Fountain is a tank.
 
white-rhino said:
I live on a popular largemouth bass lake where there are 2-3 tournaments each year. Never see prop rods on any of the boats at the launch. We live in an area with a very high concentration of lakes in addition to Lake St Clare, St Clare River and Detroit River, which all are very heavily fished.
Maybe people run them in other parts of the country but not around here.

Maybe people don’t use them because of close proximity to the water, which could be said for coastal salt water boating also.
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They're usually on there for long trips, like I said.. But anyway...... They are N/A in this discussion.
 
WaterH said:
Edit, had to google “transom saver” to see what you guys were talking about. I think I could make something that would keep the foot from going down pretty easy. I can’t really see that hydro stuff failing. I mean I’m driving a full hydro steering truck. I don’t have anything saving me from that.
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I used my cobalt for the second half of the summer with a bad trim cylinder. I just ratchet strapped the outdrive up and hit the road. Get transom savers out of your mind, they dont apply to you
 
WaterH said:
I plan to throw a whistle in the glove box, but I want the horn to work.
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I'll have to look at the language of the requirement but I think if you cant put your hand on it while at the helm, then it doesn't satisfy the requirement.

WaterH said:
This business about the throwable. I have one in the side sliding door compartment. It takes seconds to get. Are you saying they will give me shit? I don’t want it out. I like my stuff neat and orderly and I’m not going to have some stupid cushion laying out.
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redneckengineered said:
Throwable can be stored, you just need to be able to access it when called upon.
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It depends on the officer's interpretation/assessment of 'immediately available'. I've had an officer bust balls about having the throwable stashed in the console/ under-seat stowage compartment, stating it should be stored on deck/ could be an infraction.


the USCG code is:

§ 175.19 Stowage.​

(a) No person may use a recreational boat unless each wearable PFD required by § 175.15 is readily accessible.

(b) No person may use a recreational boat unless each throwable PFD required by § 175.15 is immediately available.



Immediately available seems to imply better access than the wearable 'readily accessible.

this USCG quick reference agrees ( WaterH you should re4ad this cover to cover):

Stowage•
* Wearable PFDs must be readily accessible.
• You should be able to put them on in a reasonable amount of time in an emergency(vessel sinking, on fire, etc.).•
• Throwable PFDs must be immediately available for use. They should be on the maindeck within arm’s reach, hanging on a lifeline, or other easily reached location.
 
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WTF? said:
It depends on the officer's interpretation/assessment of 'immediately available'. I've had an officer bust balls about having the throwable stashed in the console/ under-seat stowage compartment.





the USCG code is:

§ 175.19 Stowage.​

(a) No person may use a recreational boat unless each wearable PFD required by § 175.15 is readily accessible.

(b) No person may use a recreational boat unless each throwable PFD required by § 175.15 is immediately available.



Immediately available seems to imply better access than the wearable 'readily accessible.

this USCG quick reference agrees ( WaterH you should re4ad this cover to cover):

Stowage•
* Wearable PFDs must be readily accessible.
• You should be able to put them on in a reasonable amount of time in an emergency(vessel sinking, on fire, etc.).•
• Throwable PFDs must be immediately available for use. They should be on the maindeck within arm’s reach, hanging on a lifeline, or other easily reached location.
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This is Salt Water guys the life saving equipment needs to be on the deck within arms reach at all times.
Maybe use them as fenders fully circling the boat so at any time they can be deployed:stirthepot:
 
CarterKraft said:
This is Salt Water guys the life saving equipment needs to be on the deck within arms reach at all times.
Maybe use them as fenders fully circling the boat so at any time they can be deployed:stirthepot:
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you should probably just make sure you don't forget to put your transom saver on the 8 horse johnson on your gheenoe that you strap down with your fancy retractable transom straps so you can be sure survive the ride to and from your neighborhood cow pond. :flipoff2:
 
WTF? said:
you should probably just make sure you don't forget to put your transom saver on the 8 horse johnson on your gheenoe that you strap down with your fancy retractable transom straps so you can be sure survive the ride to and from your neighborhood cow pond. :flipoff2:
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Its the speed bump by Bobs house that will break your skeg:flipoff2:
 
CarterKraft said:
This is Salt Water guys the life saving equipment needs to be on the deck within arms reach at all times.
Maybe use them as fenders fully circling the boat so at any time they can be deployed:stirthepot:
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and just to clarify- it's not as much about safety concern but rather avoiding un necessary interactions with law enforcement who doesn't really need any legitimate probable cause to stop and search you, with the best possible outcome being just wasting your vacation/recreation time...
 
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KacksterK5 said:
They're usually on there for long trips, like I said.. But anyway...... They are N/A in this discussion.
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Are these specifically for stern drives?

When I last ran a decent size outboard, anything Yamaha or Evinrude over about 30 hp had a lockout leg that lowered down at full tilt up so you did not ride the hydro or electric cylinder. Vital when towing large hard bottom inflatables behind sailing yachts.

But the purpose was mostly for trailering and getting the prop up high enough. The last 50hp had the trim on the throttle, but the trim for transport was only on the outboard just below the engine cover
 
XtremeJ said:
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Are these specifically for stern drives?

When I last ran a decent size outboard, anything Yamaha or Evinrude over about 30 hp had a lockout leg that lowered down at full tilt up so you did not ride the hydro or electric cylinder. Vital when towing large hard bottom inflatables behind sailing yachts.

But the purpose was mostly for trailering and getting the prop up high enough. The last 50hp had the trim on the throttle, but the trim for transport was only on the outboard just below the engine cover
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That is what I am used to as well. You would be insane to not put down the lockout leg after trimming the engine up on a trailer, hell its already there and takes 30 seconds to use. :homer:
 
XtremeJ said:
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Are these specifically for stern drives?

When I last ran a decent size outboard, anything Yamaha or Evinrude over about 30 hp had a lockout leg that lowered down at full tilt up so you did not ride the hydro or electric cylinder. Vital when towing large hard bottom inflatables behind sailing yachts.

But the purpose was mostly for trailering and getting the prop up high enough. The last 50hp had the trim on the throttle, but the trim for transport was only on the outboard just below the engine cover
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No, I see them often on outboards. I just sold a boat that had a device mounted from the back of the trailer to support the extreme end of the motor.

The transom should be super stout, but I’ve had some rentals with pretty soft transoms. I guess in those cases it would be kind of nice to take the extra load off so the motor doesn’t fall off going down the road. :lmao:
 
WTF? said:
It depends on the officer's interpretation/assessment of 'immediately available'. I've had an officer bust balls about having the throwable stashed in the console/ under-seat stowage compartment, stating it should be stored on deck/ could be an infraction.
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Of course a gray area. If I have it out, it could be caught by wind and fly overboard. (Safety hazard.)

The reason I got a boat is because there’s no rules like for aircraft and cars. Hopefully Trump gets rid of this shit.





On another note, let’s talk about towing.

If I need someone to tow my boat, obviously I will hook the tow rope to the nose ring. How much are those typically rated for? Is there any fear of tearing it out of the fiberglass?

What about if I want to tow another boat? There is a center “ring thing” on the back of my boat for towing waterskiers. Is that what I would use? How about the two U-bolt things on the transom? Would I expect these locations to handle most of my power? (I certainly would not go full throttle towing)
 
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