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George Floyd bodycam video leaks.

I was 85% sure they would never get a conviction on 3 of the 4 and 70% sure on none of the four.

This video increases it to 99% on the three and 90% on the Chauvin guy.

THOSE non-guilty riots are going to be epic

Guy reminds me of John Coffee

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Facts and truth mean nothing when yous needs uh news pars shoes...
 
He was screaming "I can't breathe" well before he was ever put on the ground and struggled with the police for a good 5 minutes before.
 
nothing matters now. The minds are made up, the damage is done...
 
nothing matters now. The minds are made up, the damage is done...

Exactly. He could have whipped out a gun, firing at the cops and the mob wouldn't care.
 
If you've seen his other video he was a limp dick that couldn't breathe.

He wrestled his way through 4 officers before he reached limp dick status.. Point being is the officers tried to handle him nicely for a good long while before he got put on the ground, they didn't escalate the situation, he did.
 
And the officers lives/careers are ruined for doing exactly what they should have. Bunch of bullshit.
 
He wrestled his way through 4 officers before he reached limp dick status.. Point being is the officers tried to handle him nicely for a good long while before he got put on the ground, they didn't escalate the situation, he did.

He asked to be put on the ground unless I heard it wrong.
 
He wrestled his way through 4 officers before he reached limp dick status.. Point being is the officers tried to handle him nicely for a good long while before he got put on the ground, they didn't escalate the situation, he did.

Truth. However, you aren't looking at it from a victims mentality. He was afraid of the police because the police kill black people for no reason. The scared black man was fighting for his life!
The knee on the neck completely fucks up the one officer's defense. If he didn't do that things would be a whole lot different.
 
The claustrophobia seemed interesting.... given he was in a car but didn't want to get in the back of the police car. I don't have claustrophobia - is there really a difference between the two?
 
Seems odd that body cams having missing footage, forget to be turned on, etc so often. It certainly seems to be the best defense to most officers in what they see and experience in the moment.

For example the above, what effect would it have had if it was released day of?
 
The claustrophobia seemed interesting.... given he was in a car but didn't want to get in the back of the police car. I don't have claustrophobia - is there really a difference between the two?

Yeah. The back of the car is smaller, there's bars on the windows, tint, etc, and you're not in control.

However, I in no way think he was suffering from actual claustrophobia, but rather drug induced paranoia and various other drug side effects.


They should have just tied him to the roof like a deer, or maybe the hood, he was pretty large and might have been hard to get up there. :laughing:
 
The claustrophobia seemed interesting.... given he was in a car but didn't want to get in the back of the police car. I don't have claustrophobia - is there really a difference between the two?

Having worked with people to get them over phobia's (including claustrophobia), his "phobia" could be legitimate. One of the ladies I helped wasn't really claustrophobic, she could be in an elevator all by herself, or be at the front of an elevator if there were other people, but she absolutely could not be "blocked in" by other people (more of a form of cleithrophobia).Likewise she was fine with walk-in closets, so long as someone didn't stand in the doorway.

So, yes, ol' George could legitimately be scared to be in a back-seat but be fine with a front-seat. However, I wonder if a "normal" back seat would affect him the same way as the back seat of a police cruiser.
 
if someone were truly claustrophobic, I would think having your hands cuffed behind your back sitting in a back seat with bars would absolutely not be fun.

I'm not all that claustrophobic to a point where it dictates many things in my life. But there are a there's been instances where I feel it. Like crawling under in the crawl space of a house, I start hyperventilating. Attics are fine, if I can at least be on my hands and knees and there's room to turn around. But having to shimmy on my belly and can't raise my head, Nope. can't do it.

If I'm working under a vehicle and I'm in a position where I cannot move my arms very well, or if I start to feel like I'm stuck. I don't start hyperventilating in that situation, but I definitely feel uneasy when for a moment I can't seem to free my arm.
 
I don't know what was going on with Mr. Floyd, but I know the prosecutor far overcharged IMO, which leads to further issues if and when the officers get off. Each charge has a specific criteria of legal verbiage behind it. Failure to prove intent or cross any of those thresholds means the accused is acquitted. Then what?
 
I don't know what was going on with Mr. Floyd, but I know the prosecutor far overcharged IMO, which leads to further issues if and when the officers get off. Each charge has a specific criteria of legal verbiage behind it. Failure to prove intent or cross any of those thresholds means the accused is acquitted. Then what?

Then round #2 of riots, just in time for the 2024 election.

Statistically, Black Lives Matter (or Bitter Lying Marxists, more accurately) only gets the spot light on election years. Funny how that works, also funny how money donated to BLM ends up in the accounts of Democrat Campaigns.
 
Truth. However, you aren't looking at it from a victims mentality. He was afraid of the police because the police kill black people for no reason. The scared black man was fighting for his life!
The knee on the neck completely fucks up the one officer's defense. If he didn't do that things would be a whole lot different.

It's police procedure to subdue someone who is out of their mind, bigger than you, and has a history, using the exact method the cop did. Combined with saying he couldn't breathe since he woke up that morning I'd say this was a perfect shitstorm.
 
nothing matters now. The minds are made up, the damage is done...

yep, it dont matter because most wont ever even be made aware of the truth, all they care about is black guy good and cops bad
 
if someone were truly claustrophobic, I would think having your hands cuffed behind your back sitting in a back seat with bars would absolutely not be fun.

I'm not all that claustrophobic to a point where it dictates many things in my life. But there are a there's been instances where I feel it. Like crawling under in the crawl space of a house, I start hyperventilating. Attics are fine, if I can at least be on my hands and knees and there's room to turn around. But having to shimmy on my belly and can't raise my head, Nope. can't do it.

If I'm working under a vehicle and I'm in a position where I cannot move my arms very well, or if I start to feel like I'm stuck. I don't start hyperventilating in that situation, but I definitely feel uneasy when for a moment I can't seem to free my arm.

I found these videos that you might find helpful.

Let me know if there's anything more I can do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG-lHubPMGc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtlwoX1YEmg
 
Yeah. The back of the car is smaller, there's bars on the windows, tint, etc, and you're not in control.

However, I in no way think he was suffering from actual claustrophobia, but rather drug induced paranoia and various other drug side effects.


They should have just tied him to the roof like a deer, or maybe the hood, he was pretty large and might have been hard to get up there. :laughing:

Excited Delerium, but that dropped out of the media FAST because that's going to be the Defense.
  • Floyd was under the influence and didn't want to be arrested, and he didn't like the back of the cruiser.
  • Rather than escalate to Resisting Arrest methods, they escalated to the next level of agitation of the arested: Excited Delrium.
  • Using methods appropriate to Excited Delerium, they pulled him out and restrained him on the ground.
  • He was already protesting about breathing while displaying physical vigor before his placement in the cruiser. Therefore his protestations on the ground didn't mean anything.
  • He can be seen raising his head multiple times while on the ground, indicating his neck was not physically restrained.
  • There is no autopsy evidence of neck injury, lack of air, or trauma to any breathing mechanisms in his body, physical or chemical
They might walk.

I am not a fan nor hater of cops. I wonder how I will feel if a couple of them get the shaft to just keep everyone happy. I think I will not like that.
 
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