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Ford trying to patent system that reports speeding vehicles to police

bad zuki said:
They already own the patent for self driving vehicles to return to the dealer if you miss a payment.

I'm thinking about hording older cars, without .gov features, to last me the rest of my life.
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In 2035 when a 2020 Ranger is cheap enough for me to buy. I’ll pull the 2.3 Lima out of my 89 ranger and put it in the 2020 :flipoff2:
 
Beat95yj said:
Auto manufacturers patent all types of things that they know will never see the light of day. A lot of it is just to make sure somebody else doesn’t patent it.
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Maybe Ford is trying to patent it and not only not use it, but also prevent any other manufacturer from using it?
 
Just an FYI to everyone in this thread (didnt read lol) per federal regulations every vehicle sold in the USA since 2013 has a black box that i can access if youre ever in an accident that will tell me if youre lying or not. Usually you are.

Also, many car manufacturers have systems that are constantly taking pictures, recordings, data, etc when youre driving without you even knowing. Which i can access as well.


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IEATRKS84 said:
Just an FYI to everyone in this thread (didnt read lol) per federal regulations every vehicle sold in the USA since 2013 has a black box that i can access if youre ever in an accident that will tell me if youre lying or not. Usually you are.
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Airbag modules customarily store shit going at least back into the 1990s but none of it's standardized. My impression was it was for diagnostic purposes, not for enabling a class of professional narcs to do their jobs more easily. The OEMs themselves may have even lost the info on how to read some of them at this point.

Of course a career that involves using license from the crown to print money tends to attract the lazy so you'd never do the hard work of figuring out how to access the paltry amount of data that a 1990s airbag module stores upon activation so that shit may as well not exist.

You and other people in your line of work are a great example of exactly the kind of enablers that need to be punished so this 1984 shit stops happening. You need to fear the consequences of association with this sort of stuff, as do the engineers building it, the lawyers writing the patent applications, etc, etc.
 
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How is this different than red light cameras? Cuz they capture speed.

I see periodically news headlines that red light cameras aren’t valid, but they are still in use , so guess they are legal?
 
Beat95yj said:
Auto manufacturers patent all types of things that they know will never see the light of day. A lot of it is just to make sure somebody else doesn’t patent it.
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Same as what Apple and Samsung both regularly do, patent some random thing they figured out how to do but have no current use for, just to make sure that if it ever becomes useful, they owned it first. Tesla too, though they make a big show of letting others use their patents; Ford is not known for their generosity there (or everybody would have door code pads already).

Would be interesting to see what angle it takes to make this both legally usable and commercially viable; I feel like the angle is that Ford can supply cop cars with this technology to "augment" the human operator but not to operate independently, and Ford is the only supplier of cop cars that can do that, ergo, Ford is the only supplier of cop cars.
 
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I am like 90 percent certain we did this for use in cop cars. To be 100% clear i do not approve of it but one of the things we hear alot when we work on patrol cars is that they could have gotten more or can't get them all that day ibecause they already had someone pulled over. And or that that there have been people out at a speed that is "extremely dangerous" but couldn't get to them or get the plate because already busy. Again 100 percent think it is shitty but police and .gov are a huge portion of our market share.
 
Slander said:
Good thing we aren't a community with the knowledge, skills and abilities to manufacture our own parts if need be.
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Mandatory insurance is the angle they will use to force old cars off the road. If you don't have self driving with all the snitch features your insurance premium will just climb into the stratosphere, and it will be justified by the increased risk.
 
Mikenike said:
I am like 90 percent certain we did this for use in cop cars. To be 100% clear i do not approve of it but one of the things we hear alot when we work on patrol cars is that they could have gotten more or can't get them all that day ibecause they already had someone pulled over. And or that that there have been people out at a speed that is "extremely dangerous" but couldn't get to them or get the plate because already busy. Again 100 percent think it is shitty but police and .gov are a huge portion of our market share.
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Last year one of our (now ex obviously) brain surgeons was rolling down the road in a truck sans seatbelt wearing a chartreuse jacket basically advertising the lack of seatbelt while smoking a blunt. It was cold so they had his sober passenger sitting in the patrol car to stay warm while going over the truck. The passenger was chatting with the stater and he was showing him their camera system that was capable of tracking and zoom so they don't even have to be aiming at you to see you from either direction. It read speed too. That's some 1984 revenuer shit right there.
 
DWT said:
Last year one of our (now ex obviously) brain surgeons was rolling down the road in a truck sans seatbelt wearing a chartreuse jacket basically advertising the lack of seatbelt while smoking a blunt. It was cold so they had his sober passenger sitting in the patrol car to stay warm while going over the truck. The passenger was chatting with the stater and he was showing him their camera system that was capable of tracking and zoom so they don't even have to be aiming at you to see you from either direction. It read speed too. That's some 1984 revenuer shit right there.
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It tracks pedestrians too. It can alert them, lock the doors, etc. They don't want someone to walk up and get the jump on them while they're protecting and serving.
 
DWT said:
Last year one of our (now ex obviously) brain surgeons was rolling down the road in a truck sans seatbelt wearing a chartreuse jacket basically advertising the lack of seatbelt while smoking a blunt. It was cold so they had his sober passenger sitting in the patrol car to stay warm while going over the truck. The passenger was chatting with the stater and he was showing him their camera system that was capable of tracking and zoom so they don't even have to be aiming at you to see you from either direction. It read speed too. That's some 1984 revenuer shit right there.
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Ohh i am fully aware. We do about 15 cop cars a week here.
 
Mikenike said:
Ohh i am fully aware. We do about 15 cop cars a week here.
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The revenuers tech knows no bounds. I didn't realize how widespread it had gotten so quickly. It's almost like it's a good investment for municipalities to buy in because the return is guaranteed.:homer:

The stretch the guys I'm talking about were on is a giant speed trap. Turn off a 60 mph highway into a 40 mph 5 lane road that drops to 30 then up to 35 then to 55 all in about 7500'. I do 45 on the 40 mph area and the speed limit everywhere else because there is someone pulled over for 50+ 75% of the time and during busy times there is ALWAYS at least 1 popo parked or with a customer.
 
Ranchtruck said:
Mandatory insurance is the angle they will use to force old cars off the road. If you don't have self driving with all the snitch features your insurance premium will just climb into the stratosphere, and it will be justified by the increased risk.
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Yup!! May still be cheaper to pay the insane insurance rates than to finance a new $100k commuter shit box at 12% in 2030
 
Insurance and registration are all state by state. It will take a long time for all the states to get shitty and the more that get shitty the bigger the pot of money that a state can access by being the next Vermont.
 
DWT said:
The revenuers tech knows no bounds. I didn't realize how widespread it had gotten so quickly. It's almost like it's a good investment for municipalities to buy in because the return is guaranteed.:homer:

The stretch the guys I'm talking about were on is a giant speed trap. Turn off a 60 mph highway into a 40 mph 5 lane road that drops to 30 then up to 35 then to 55 all in about 7500'. I do 45 on the 40 mph area and the speed limit everywhere else because there is someone pulled over for 50+ 75% of the time and during busy times there is ALWAYS at least 1 popo parked or with a customer.
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I really hope we wind up deciding it is too expensive for most municipalities to pony up for and shelving it (if it gets patented at all). So far as long as i am not going lightspeed my old man mercury is still pretty immune to being noticed by cops. And on the off chance they do notice they usually just flash the headlights at me to slow down.
 
Hooligan said:
How is this different than red light cameras? Cuz they capture speed.

I see periodically news headlines that red light cameras aren’t valid, but they are still in use , so guess they are legal?
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Depends on the state.
 
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