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I saw this earlier in another source, maybe Yahoo or similar. As it is caustic to the industry as a rock hard dick slap to the face, it needs to be shared.

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Academic Publisher Retracts Over 11,300 Papers and Shuts 19 Journals As It Is Overwhelmed by Fraud

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Academic Publisher Retracts Over 11,300 Papers and Shuts 19 Journals As It Is Overwhelmed by Fraud​


Here's part - Cliffs - Scammers are using AI Bots to fraud fake research journal articles for submission and grant $$$$ :laughing:

Academic fraud is forcing Wiley, a major publisher of scientific journals, to close 19 journals after some were overwhelmed by industrial-scale research fraud. In the last two years, Wiley has retracted over 11,300 papers containing some fraudulent content.

Academic publishing is a major industry for two reasons. The publishing industry generates about $30 billion in revenue, approximately 40% of which comes from within the United States. These publications don't make their money from advertisers. To have a research paper published in a top-tier journal will cost the research team several thousand dollars. That money typically is an authorized expense of the grant or contract the laboratory has received.
 
Wiley bought these guys in 2021, found a lot of phoney shit going on. :homer:

"Hindawi was a publisher of peer-reviewed, open access, scientific journals active in scientific, technical, and medical (STM) literature. It was founded in 1997 in Cairo, Egypt, and purchased in 2021 for $298 million by John Wiley & Sons, a large US-based publishing company.[3]

By 2022, Hindawi was publishing over 250 journals, including 64 journals indexed within the Science Citation Index Expanded, and 1 journal indexed within the Social Sciences Citation Index,[4] with a total of 64 journals ranked with an impact factor. Since 2007, all of Hindawi's journals have been open access and published under a Creative Commons Attribution License (CC-BY).[5]

The quality of peer review at a number of Hindawi journals has been the subject of criticism. In 2010, Hindawi was classified as a possible predatory publisher by Jeffrey Beall, but was removed following a successful appeal.[6] In 2023, Wiley announced after over 7000 article retractions in Hindawi journals related to the publication of articles originating from paper mills that it will cease using the Hindawi brand and will integrate Hindawi’s 200 remaining journals into its main portfolio.[7][8] The Wiley CEO who initiated the Hindawi acquisition stepped down in the wake of those retractions.[9]"
 
Ummduh said:
I've been reading about that for a little while now.

It's also apparently a big circle jerk, in that you need to be published (for anything, apparently) to get anywhere in the first place (as an individual or a team) so that further drives the "paper mills".
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Most of the researchers live on gov grants, being published is a big deal in getting grants. The alternative is to get a real job.
 
Norm said:
Most of the researchers live on gov grants, being published is a big deal in getting grants. The alternative is to get a real job.
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grumpy356 said:
Science almost always agrees with the organization funding it.

Kinda odd how that works.

(And HAS for decades if not centuries).
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The entire justification for the genocide carried about by the Nazis was "trust the science". Almost every systemic atrocity committed by man in the last century has been under the guise of science and medicine.
 
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grumpy356 said:
Science almost always agrees with the organization funding it.

Kinda odd how that works.

(And HAS for decades if not centuries).
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Bleh

That’s politicized monetary science. Many theorys in the past were validated the hard way. I wonder if plate tectonics could have a chance today if it was linked to global warming or some bullshit.
 
Motorcharge said:
The entire justification for the genocide carried about by the Nazis was "trust the science". Almost every systemic atrocity committed by man in the last century has been under the guise of science and medicine.
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More bleh. Stalin and Mao are alleged to have killed far more than the Nazi. Khemer rouge had nothing to do with science that I heard. And on and on. I have never seen it written or credibly stated that the final solution was science driven. Science was used used to try , try to validate some racial components but hatred and a scapegoat for power control was what drove the genocide.
 
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Landslide said:
Not in Biden’s economy it ain’t cheap… just sayin.
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True, but as with anything else, private parties can step in to make it work without the .gov

e.g. I have pine trees and think that the pitch would be a decent substitute :smokin:
 
Splib said:
More bleh. Stalin and Mao are alleged to have killed far more than the Nazi. Khemer rouge had nothing to do with science that I heard. And on and on. I have never seen it written or credibly stated that the final solution was science driven. Science was used used to try , try to validate some racial components but hatred and a scapegoat for power control was what drove the genocide.
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You missed the point. I'm not demonizing science and medicine. I'm saying a lot of horrible shit was carried out using science and medicine as a justification and as an appeal to authority.

Never said the Nazis were motivated by it, but they certainly hid behind it and used it to lend legitimacy to what they were doing.

People are stupid, they'll go along with almost anything if they perceive it's coming from a source of authority.
 
That’s not what you said at all. The nazi phenomena was not an example of anything science related at all. You have a talent for making your own history fit your own narrative. I just disagree and explained why. Where we agree is that since, say the year 2000, “science “ has become a political commodity and therefore corrupted as such. There was no money or politics in the example I gave of the scientific community response to plate tectonic theory. Climate “science “ is nothing of the kind but there is probably enough money being douched to pay for social security.
 
Splib said:
That’s not what you said at all. The nazi phenomena was not an example of anything science related at all. You have a talent for making your own history fit your own narrative. I just disagree and explained why. Where we agree is that since, say the year 2000, “science “ has become a political commodity and therefore corrupted as such. There was no money or politics in the example I gave of the scientific community response to plate tectonic theory. Climate “science “ is nothing of the kind but there is probably enough money being douched to pay for social security.
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Yes it is, the Nazis were obsessed with science and twisting it as justification for the racial ideology and eugenics. The entire point I was making is that the science wasn't legitimate, but it was was hidden behind to try to lend credibility and justification to what they did. It's why they documented the holocaust extensively until it looked like they were going to lose the war which is why they started trying to destroy the evidence once they started losing. Just because you're ignorant on the subject doesn't mean I'm twisting things or making things up. There are hundreds, if not thousands of books on the subject, academic papers and lectures, college courses, etc.

The Nazis aren't the only example I was referring to either. I'm also referring to things like Tuskegee experiments, the rainbow chemicals program, MK Ultra, dioxin and LCD testing on prisoners, biomed research on the mentally ill, decades of the Feds pushing tobacco as safe for the tobacco industry and using doctors to do it, uranium injections at the University of Rochester in the 40s, plutonium injections during the Manhattan project, iodine experiments in the 40s, Project GABRIEL and SUNSHINE, Operation LAC where the Feds dumped chemicals over major cities in the US and Canada just to see what happened, mustard gas testing on our troops in the 40s, sulfuric acid tests in molasses on black prisoners in Louisiana, cantharide tests on children in hospitals in the 40s, The Holmesburg studies on prisoners for nearly 20 years, decades of poisoning the populace through the big food industry hiding behind the FDA, etc, etc, etc. and that's just insane shit out of the US, nevermind how many examples there are globally. Hell, we still mutilate the genitals of half the children in this country based purely on made up pseudoscience from the 1800s, same thing with BMI as a standard when it has no basis in reality. We practiced lobotomies for the better part of 4 decades and Walter Freedman is still largely viewed as a pioneer in neuroscience.
 
Splib said:
More bleh. Stalin and Mao are alleged to have killed far more than the Nazi. Khemer rouge had nothing to do with science that I heard. And on and on. I have never seen it written or credibly stated that the final solution was science driven. Science was used used to try , try to validate some racial components but hatred and a scapegoat for power control was what drove the genocide.
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Stalin and Mao did a massive amount under the guise of science.

Sure, science that significantly worsened famine and science that outright ignored some areas, but it was all science based.
 
We practiced lobotomies for the better part of 4 decades
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We should probably bring that one back, it's a great way to solve behavior problems in some people and can be more cost effective than a lifetime prison term.

And tobacco and other drugs, including sugar and cociane, isn't as bad for you as the government would now have you believe
 
Provience said:
Stalin and Mao did a massive amount under the guise of science.

Sure, science that significantly worsened famine and science that outright ignored some areas, but it was all science based.
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If you say so. The cultural revoultion was science based ? :lmao:

Stalin's purges and deliberate famine of the Ukraine was science based ? :lmao:

You and Motor can re-write a shit load of scholarly literature, be sure to credit your YouTube sources or make up new ones :lmao:
 
Isn't this one of the topics Brent Weinstien was getting massive amounts of shit over pre COVID? I remember him talking about how peer reviewed is a scam.
 
Now that Fauci has admitted the “science “ behind social distancing was completely made up bullshit, there really shouldn’t be much argument that people will twist facts and statistics and/or outright lie to claim science is on their side.
 
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