FDA Approved

The only reason I like this move, is that my wife inherited Pfizer stock from her grandmother, and she needs a new car.
 
Johann said:
No, no biggie for the 55 year old without a spleen and on immunosupresors (for the rest of his life for arthritis) that chose to get the vaccine. IE: Me. You can concoct what ever strawmen you need though.

More than likely this will mutate beyond danger at some point just like SARs did. I don't like the idea of boosters for the rest of our lives any more than you do. Nor the vaccine cards, not the shut downs. All of that is BS overreacting.
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And, I fully respect your decision to get the 'vaccine' as you see fit and necessary. Absolutely.

The problem comes from the lack of (and I am not pointing to you specifically) willingness to accept the choice of others to NOT take the vaccines, as they see fit. Or the lack of willingness to allow for their freedom of choice without employment ramifications or other freedom of movement implications.
 
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Johann said:
Wish they were doing better contact tracing so that we could see who is infecting whom. But suspect it is hard with this invisible boogie man

I'd also like more antibody testing. I have a feeling more people have been exposed than they think and have developed natural immunity but that does not help the narrative that everyone needs to vaccinated
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They need the boogie man to keep the fear alive, to keep people buying into everything they're selling. Same with natural antibodies, they can't legitamize that's a thing, otherwise the case for the shot and related discrimination weakens.
 
RedX said:
And, I fully respect your decision to get the 'vaccine' as you see fit and necessary. Absolutely.

The problem come from the lack of (and I am not pointing to you specifically) willingness to accept the choice of others to NOT take the vaccines, as they see fit. Or the lack of willingness to allow for their freedom of choice without employment ramifications or other freedom of movement implications.
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It's cool! :beer:

I fully support anyone's choice on taking it or not. If people want to wait it out or take their chances with natural immunity I am fine with that.

They are playing vacced against nonvacced for peer pressure but I do not think it will go well in the end.

There was even a wiff of "MAGA right wing nonvacced" insinuation that got started but the hesitancy is not just right leaning. A lot of POC folks don't want it either! :ghost:
 
flecker said:
And and actual study as it relates to SARS-Covid 2
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That study only really talks about “vaccinated” immunity. Not natural immunity. It also implies that sars-cov2 will mutate like the flu, which is partially correct. Corona viruses are not like the flu in their mutations having vast changes. . It is very likely that natural immunity will give someone antibodies to a wide range of strains. Not what this is studying.

also when you look at any data using flawed testing then you get flawed results.
 
RedX said:
So....no biggie for, say, an 18 year old who will now need boosters for the rest of their life, unless they want to potentially meet an untimely, unnecessary end like the test animals?
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Quoted to add that when they did the cancer trials, the third booster was the defendant one. The participants started to die after that one at a very alarming rate.
 
shortbus4x4 said:
Didn't get it for the same reason I don't get the flu vaccine. Your immune system needs a workout from time to time, use it or lose it. Had covid beginning of June, it sucked for a couple of weeks but I survived and have had worse.
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the flu shot is just scheduling when you want to be sick

I got it two times in my life, and I swear they just give you the flu. I will take my chances, and I have a great immune system, I agree use it or loose it.
 
Johann said:
Either by force or inconvenience. Show your card or have to submit to a test every week. Who wants to do that?



I'd like to see the documentation that vaccinated people are infecting anyone, vacced or unvacced. Only people that seem to be in the hospital are unvacced. I seriously doubt they are getting it from vacced people.
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And how do you know that only the unvaccinated are in the hospital? Do you get that info from the news? My wife is a critical care nurse and she's had 5 people with covid that were fully vaxxed under her care in the past 3 weeks. Don't we know yet that misinformation is rampant, and that there's dollars being funneled behind the scenes to make the vaccine narrative viable? I wouldn't believe 90% of what I heard secondhand.
 
Mostly from similar posters on other forums with health care relatives. Not exacting science for sure. ;) But I trust you all more than the media.

How many unvaccinated people did she see in the same period?
 
Johann said:
Mostly from similar posters on other forums with health care relatives. Not exacting science for sure. ;) But I trust you all more than the media.

How many unvaccinated people did she see in the same period?
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It's about a 50/50 split at her hospital.

And nurses are split on it just like we are. A lot of them aren't filling out the VAERS reports properly, according to their thoughts on vaccines. Some of them aren't doing it at all. There's majorly pro vaccine and majorly anti vaccine healthcare workers all over, and how they slant things depends on their stance. But...I wouldn't believe everything you hear and read. TONS of misinformation. I believe Covid is real, and new variants are happening and will happen again. It's here and it'll be here. But I also don't trust the .gov who suppressed actual medicine that helped in order to put out a vaccine with no idea about long term effects, short term efficacy, or anything in between. Follow the money....this isn't about lives. Our .gov doesn't care about lives, **** look at what's going on in Afghanistan. They could give two ****s less about us. What they care about is money, power, and control.
 
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Johann said:
No, no biggie for the 55 year old without a spleen and on immunosupresors (for the rest of his life for arthritis) that chose to get the vaccine. IE: Me. You can concoct what ever strawmen you need though.

More than likely this will mutate beyond danger at some point just like SARs did. I don't like the idea of boosters for the rest of our lives any more than you do. Nor the vaccine cards, not the shut downs. All of that is BS overreacting.
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But you did it for you and you are not trying to force other to do it. Unlike the state and federal governments
 
RedX said:
Question for the pro-Pfizer-vax proponents: Would you be willing to accept a system which tested people for naturally-occurring antibodies, and then not mandating they receive the Pfizer vax (or any inoculation)? Or, would the over-riding need to submit to the 'approved' vax protocol be more important?

Would any other vax methodology be acceptable (ie: J&J, for instance)?
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Yes and yes, I purposely got the Jansen because it wasn't mRNA. Also really curious why antibody testing can't take the place of vaccination....:confused:
 
Ever watch tv and see the ambulance chasers add for
"Have you taken (insert fda approved product HERE) and taken ill"
Call yer momma and cry . Com law firm!
that's why!
SomeGuy said:
www.fda.gov

FDA Approves First COVID-19 Vaccine

FDA approved the first COVID-19 vaccine, now marketed as Comirnaty, for the prevention of COVID-19 disease in individuals 16 years of age and older.
www.fda.gov www.fda.gov

Alright, so what's your excuses now not to get it?
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SomeGuy said:
www.fda.gov

FDA Approves First COVID-19 Vaccine

FDA approved the first COVID-19 vaccine, now marketed as Comirnaty, for the prevention of COVID-19 disease in individuals 16 years of age and older.
www.fda.gov www.fda.gov

Alright, so what's your excuses now not to get it?
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Why now? I'm not at risk, never had a flu shot. Guy just left this morning at work. 2 covid shots and he's sick as all hell. He's the only one out sick too. He said the first shot didn't effect him. 2nd shot had him sick for a week.
What's next, force me to take drugs I don't want and need? What about my rights?
 
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