Fake slot machine ruse in Kentucky

[jamscal]

In Kentucky, we have the state run lottery and horse racing. No casinos. Churchill Downs Inc. is the 800lb gorilla here. They want expanded gambling and want to control it.

So they came up with slot machines where the outcome of each 'spin' is supposedly based on historical horse racing results. This is considered para-mutual gambling like horse racing and thus legal here.

To me, this is ridiculous and I can't understand how 1000 mathematicians or statisticians haven't called them out on the impossibility of this.

One of the anti gambling christian orgs have...but I was thinking someone smart could easily debunk the idea that these machines are anything but random chance generators.

https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/legal-...bafd9300c.html

Cue Hillbilly jokes.

 

[OHV Wildcat]

There’s no money in proving them wrong, is there?

 

[Scott Cee aka 2drx4]

What's the difference? The house always wins. Only idiots play the machines.

 

[brd]

What's the difference? The house always wins. Only idiots play the machines.

I don't disagree with you but true story.

I rarely go into a casino,and absolutely detest the concept of throwing money away in a slot machine.However,2 years ago I was up in Buellton for a car show ,had an hour or so before I needed to be there.Met some friends and we decided to go on over to Chumash for a few minutes .I did not have one of their player cards,so I signed up and got $50.00 in free play.Wife was with me,so we went over to play the penny slots.I had gone through about $40.00 or so of the free play and was very surprised when the bells started ringing and just kept going.Buy the time it stopped,I had $300.00 in my hand that I won on their money

Add to that,wife was next to me ,she had dropped $20.00 into her machine,hers hit just after mine and by the time the dust settled she had $600.00 in her hand.
All in all,not a bad 20 minutes.

 

[jamscal]

There’s no money in proving them wrong, is there?

Ha, good point.

I was thinking some group on Reddit might take this up for fun.

Basically I want to know about the science/math and the practical way a bunch of horse races from as far back as 1875 were put into a database.

And how outcomes of those races jives with the outcome of the electronic gaming machines.

It seems impractical/impossible and just some BS for a big business to skirt the law. (What else is new, I know.)

I guess the answer is ones and zeros go in here....and ones and zeros come out here.

 

[Pony_Driver]

Slots used to pay for all of the schools in MD, then they took them away, raised taxes and the state put out the Lottery. :rolleyes:

 

[JR4X]

All in all,not a bad 20 minutes.

thats awesome! And almost 100% of the time that suckers people into coming back and losing everything over and over and over trying to regain the first experience.

I ended up $800 ish on roulette in Vegas once. Slow game and having fun. Tried again a couple times and have never come close again.

 

[Poopyface]

thats awesome! And almost 100% of the time that suckers people into coming back and losing everything over and over and over trying to regain the first experience.

I ended up $800 ish on roulette in Vegas once. Slow game and having fun. Tried again a couple times and have never come close again.

I always wondered if they have some kind of system that detects noobs and lets em win to lure em back to lose.

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

I always wondered if they have some kind of system that detects noobs and lets em win to lure em back to lose.

Dunno, but if thats the case ill take it anyway I can get it.

Wife and i went on a cruise with some friends about 15yrs ago. One night while we were at sea the ladies ended up getting way to drunk and going to bed early. Me and the other dude continued drinking at the bar until about 3am. On the way back to our rooms we had to walk through the casino. Place was dead empty but the slots were still going so I decided to throw $20 into some random $1 slot machine and play until i ran out of cash. Bet the max (i think it was $5) on the first pull and lost. Bet the max on the second pull and lost again. Third time i bet max, pulled the handle and ended up with stacked gold bars in all 3 rows. I'm like "hell ya I just one a few bucks!". Sitting there waiting and no money is coming out, im like WTF.... Still sitting there trying to figure this shit out and an old lady comes over, tells me I won big and that I need to go get someone. She says she will hold my place but im like nope, im not getting up for anything until sombody gets me my money. After about 20min a guy from the casino comes over, shakes my hand and tells me he has a voucher for me that I can cash in in the morning when the exchanges opens back up. Dude hands me a $3,500 voucher!! . Showed it to my wife and friends the next morning before I cashed it in. That one pull of the handle paid for the entire trip, all the extras we spent money on when we were on the islands and bought me a nice Tag Heuer watch that I still have.

That was my first and only time gambling at a casino. Going to the casino to me is like driving down the highway flipping 20's out the window. Not very fun.

 

[Motorcharge]

They've had those here for a few years now. Every truck stop and dive bar has them now and there's someone on them constantly.

 

[jeepyj]

I lost about $800,000 at a casino almost 21 years ago. My wife and I went for a weekend with some friends. I got us $20 in quarters for the slots to waste some time until dinner. I lost all of my quarters but my wife won about $80. She bought dinner with the winnings. I bought some Yukon Jack. She also got pregnant. Still paying that off.

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[Motorcharge]

I lost about $800,000 at a casino almost 21 years ago. My wife and I went for a weekend with some friends. I got us $20 in quarters for the slots to waste some time until dinner. I lost all of my quarters but my wife won about $80. She bought dinner with the winnings. I bought some Yukon Jack. She also got pregnant. Still paying that off.

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So factoring in the kid, $1.8 million.