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arse_sidewards said:
Someone's "good enough" pipe strapping job was letting the pipe move and that final water hammer from farting the air out is what made the solder joint finally fuck off.
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Wouldn't surprise me a bit. All of the plumbing in this place is loose and janky as hell. There's also zero insulation in that shed and the building is concrete block so even if you let the faucets run a little in the winter they still freeze if it dips down below like 15* outside.

edit: Someone from the realty company finally showed up. Had no clue what was going on. Showed him everything going on outside and told him about the hot water not working. He goes to the end of the block to see if he can access the back from the other end of the block. I just went outside to see what's going on and he's just gone. :laughing:
 
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KacksterK5 said:
Shut the water off at the street. Pop the water meter cover and turn the nut with a pair of pliers or adjustable wrench.
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There's nothing at the street to turn off, the city water line runs behind the building, the box to shut the water off and the meters are in a utility shed that's locked behind a fence. At this point I don't want to be the one to touch it because then if my water bill ends up being through the roof it gives the realty company room to say I could have shut it off last night.

The only saving grace here is the city estimates all my utility bills because they can't access the meters. I've had the exact same gas/water bill for 7 years because the city is too lazy to bother with getting access. They actually got sued recently because they were just estimating in general, then after years of not actually doing readings found the estimates were way off and just started sending people 5 figure plus bills for shit they had under billed for years and tried to say people should have known what their bill should have been. Oh and we have the highest water utility costs of anywhere in the country and that was before they started actually billing people based on use.

Worst case for me with the bill I just put my rent in escrow and go file suit against the city and watch a judge shit all over the realty company because I've got pictures of everything, everything documented, and emails with them admitting fault and the fact that I can't access the shutoff.
 
JD Mark said:
Yes, there is. Somewhere there is a shutoff to the complex from the watermain running up the street.
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Yeah, and that somewhere is inaccessible. I know exactly where it's at because I shut off for a plumbing issue in this same apartment years ago. All of that shit is now inaccessible without the realty companies key or breaking in.

Right now I'm not liable for any of this shit and all of the leak is outside of the building so it's not really my problem. I'm not about to go make it my problem now and potentially fuck myself if I do end up getting a bill that's through the roof.
 
Motorcharge said:
Yeah, and that somewhere is inaccessible. I know exactly where it's at because I shut off for a plumbing issue in this same apartment years ago. All of that shit is now inaccessible without the realty companies key or breaking in.

Right now I'm not liable for any of this shit and all of the leak is outside of the building so it's not really my problem. I'm not about to go make it my problem now and potentially fuck myself if I do end up getting a bill that's through the roof.
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No, near the watermain out by the street there will be another shutoff.

Something along these lines.

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JD Mark said:
No, near the watermain out by the street there will be another shutoff.

Something along these lines.

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This is the point where it changes from city lines to privately owned lines. Usually near or just inside the property line here. But, it easily could have had a shed built on top of it.

This is an interesting thread, I'm watching:laughing:
 
JD Mark said:
No, near the watermain out by the street there will be another shutoff.

Something along these lines.

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Yeah, but you need a 5' tool to reach down and turn the special valve. Or maybe thats just in frozen hell.

Last night I shut off the water to my house, cracked all the taps to drain the system, and changed the shutoff valves in the upstairs bathroom. As usual, it spit and farted when it was back on.
This morning I got the cats some water, and it was still making noise.

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Squamch said:
This is the point where it changes from city lines to privately owned lines. Usually near or just inside the property line here. But, it easily could have had a shed built on top of it.

This is an interesting thread, I'm watching:laughing:
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That valve would be the chitty's. Doesn't mean it can't be shut off by a private citizen.
 
JD Mark said:
No, near the watermain out by the street there will be another shutoff.

Something along these lines.

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Yeah, that's in a cement pad behind the building that a locked shed sits on. I'm on the corner, the line for my building isn't out front.

None of the underground shit in this area is run how you would think because this part of the city is one of the oldest neighborhoods in the country. A lot of the underground shit in this area has been in use since the 1700s.
 
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Motorcharge said:
On call maintenance people never called or showed and this shit has been just running wide open throttle inside the wall or under the floor all night. Sounds like it might possibly be just running into the drain line, not really sure. I popped all the shower handle shit off the wall last night to see if I could see anything but nothing from what I could see. Thankfully no water in my actual apartment yet. Kinda hoping it's in the wall enough they have to tear the tub/shower out to fix it so I can get out of this lease. Was planning on moving when it was up anyway.


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that isn't your problem, it is the landlord :grinpimp:
 
A girl at my gym worked for a big residential builder in customer service, and she took a call from a new homeowner that was complaining about the flow, so she sent out a plumber. Turns out the :mr-t: had issues with the flooring in the kitchen.
 
Motorcharge said:
...There's also zero insulation in that shed and the building is concrete block so even if you let the faucets run a little in the winter they still freeze if it dips down below like 15* outside.
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The building next door has an olde wooden shed (firetrap actually) that uses a electric heater (ungrounded outlet) to keep the pipes unfrozen- :homer:
 
22 hours for them to come out and just turn the valve off. :laughing:

They emailed me back about 5:30 saying the first guy was just here to assess. Guess he didn't know righty tighty. If he'd come and told me before he just left I'd have gone back there with him and just shut it off for him. They did at least say they'd discuss the water bill when it comes in and say in writing they'd cover anything that isn't my fault. I've at a minimum got an air tight case if I have to take them to court.

Any bets on how long it takes them to replace the hot water and get my shower working again? I almost don't even give a shit about the hot water part, I take cold showers this time of year anyway and plan on being out of here before winter.
 
Motorcharge said:
22 hours for them to come out and just turn the valve off. :laughing:

They emailed me back about 5:30 saying the first guy was just here to assess. Guess he didn't know righty tighty. If he'd come and told me before he just left I'd have gone back there with him and just shut it off for him. They did at least say they'd discuss the water bill when it comes in and say in writing they'd cover anything that isn't my fault. I've at a minimum got an air tight case if I have to take them to court.

Any bets on how long it takes them to replace the hot water and get my shower working again? I almost don't even give a shit about the hot water part, I take cold showers this time of year anyway and plan on being out of here before winter.
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There is no discussion about the water bill... in my mind.... its theirs to pay. Hopefully they have to rip out the bath allowing you to break lease.
 
Grnjp92 said:
There is no discussion about the water bill... in my mind.... its theirs to pay. Hopefully they have to rip out the bath allowing you to break lease.
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In a sane world it would be that simple, but nothing about this has been sane and they've been pretty full of shit all day. I 100% expect to have to fight them on it, but we'll see.

I don't think the actual leak was ever inside the building. I'm not exactly sure what broke or what they did either. Water still works, shower doesn't, and there's no hot water. If it did leak inside it must have been in the crawl space somewhere because there was no water visible inside. The bathroom above mine has leaked enough that I can tell if there's moisture anywhere, even just humidity now because they've never done any repairs in there.
 
Motorcharge said:
In a sane world it would be that simple, but nothing about this has been sane and they've been pretty full of shit all day. I 100% expect to have to fight them on it, but we'll see.

I don't think the actual leak was ever inside the building. I'm not exactly sure what broke or what they did either. Water still works, shower doesn't, and there's no hot water. If it did leak inside it must have been in the crawl space somewhere because there was no water visible inside. The bathroom above mine has leaked enough that I can tell if there's moisture anywhere, even just humidity now because they've never done any repairs in there.
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Hell you might if you desire, break lease based on the possibility if mold as you know this isn't going to be mitigated properly. Goodluck!
 
Grnjp92 said:
Hell you might if you desire, break lease based on the possibility if mold as you know this isn't going to be mitigated properly. Goodluck!
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I probably could, but I'm not sure if it's worth the effort. I've only got 90 days left on this lease. I also don't quite have enough set aside to move yet either. Will by the end of September. I could do it now, but money would be a little tighter than I'd like for a couple months unless I stopped making regular savings deposits for a bit.
 
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Grnjp92 said:
Hell you might if you desire, break lease based on the possibility if mold as you know this isn't going to be mitigated properly. Goodluck!
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The lack of hot water will be enough as well, assuming they don't repair it any time soon. I'd probably just go ahead and send them an email about it so you have it in writing.....just in case you need it later.
 
Wait until the bill comes, if it's extra, just call and sed pics of the leak, tell them the story and they should credit it back, if they even notice. We switched everyone over to digital meters with antennas a few years ago, if the meters die, we just send the bill like we did before and put a service ticket in on the dead meter. eventually somebody gets out there.

If they stillphyscally read metes in your area, and it's locked, you'll get the same bill as always.

I checked on one yesterday that's been leaking for 9 months. normally a house uses 2-3 units of water per month. This one is up to 245. It will probably just get credited back even though it's been running for months.
 
Motorcharge said:
They did at least say they'd discuss the water bill when it comes in and say in writing they'd cover anything that isn't my fault. I've at a minimum got an air tight case if I have to take them to court.
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The water co should have an option to adjust your bill,due to leak- I had a frozen pipe burst and spew 12k gallons into the side yard and a call to the water co , they had me sign a form and adjusted it to the 12 month average bill. Said this leak adjustment could only be done once within 12 months.
 
bgaidan said:
The lack of hot water will be enough as well, assuming they don't repair it any time soon. I'd probably just go ahead and send them an email about it so you have it in writing.....just in case you need it later.
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Already sent one last night asking for a time frame. Shower doesnt work at all right now either. Staying at my parents for the next few nights while they're out of town anyway so at least that worked out lol

M92PV4U said:
Only pussys don't drink tap water:flipoff2: Jk, no:flipoff2:.
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This. 36 years of it and I haven't died yet. Water quality around here is really good though. I'm sure I'd change my mind if I saw inside the plumbing, but I figure the same as I do with restaurants, I don't wanna go digging into exactly how clean the kitchen is either, I'd rather just enjoy the food.

WTF? said:
The water co should have an option to adjust your bill,due to leak- I had a frozen pipe burst and spew 12k gallons into the side yard and a call to the water co , they had me sign a form and adjusted it to the 12 month average bill. Said this leak adjustment could only be done once within 12 months.
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The city runs the water company here and they're unbelievably horrible to deal with because there's zero, and I mean zero accountability. You can't do anything with them without going down to the office in person. They'll bill you for years after you move, overbill, back bill for years of bills they underestimated use on, etc. They also won't adjust anything if the fault is after their connection. They don't care if it's a $100k water bill, they won't adjust it.

City utilities are actually a big part of why I'm moving and don't want to be anywhere in the city limits anymore. They were awful when I moved back 7 years ago, they're way worse now than they were.
 
The only adjustment we make for a water leak is to remove the sewer from anything over your average use. We will set up payments for you and let you spread it out over some time period I think up to a year. People bitch about it all the time. From the utility's prospective, we charge a unit rate to every customer out there based on our cost to get the water to you. If we don't charge you for the water that goes through your meter, we would have to charge everyone for the water that goes through your meter. We don't think it's fair or right to pass the charge on to the people who had nothing to do with your construction or maintenance or neglect. On the other hand, if it's obviously a leak, you didn't utilize sewer, so we will take that off. Also you can get leak detection for your service line that alerts you when it is leaking and it's not expensive. We do notify you when you have an irregular bill, but that could be 30 days after a leak started. Here's a decent one that will actually auto shutoff.

 
I mean, he did alert his landlord of the leak. He can't get anyone to shut it off :homer:.
 
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