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Desantis thinks he's a better parent to your kids than you

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Florida will have one of the country’s most restrictive social media bans for minors — if it withstands expected legal challenges — under a bill signed by Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Monday.

The bill will ban social media accounts for children under 14 and require parental permission for 14- and 15-year-olds. It was slightly watered down from a proposal DeSantis vetoed earlier this month, a week before the annual legislative session ended.

The new law was Republican Speaker Paul Renner’s top legislative priority. It takes effect Jan. 1.

“A child in their brain development doesn’t have the ability to know that they’re being sucked into these addictive technologies and to see the harm and step away from it, and because of that we have to step in for them,” Renner said at the bill-signing ceremony held at a Jacksonville school.

The bill DeSantis vetoed would have banned minors under 16 from popular social media platforms regardless of parental consent. But before the veto, he worked out compromise language with Renner to alleviate the governor’s concerns and the Legislature sent DeSantis a second bill.

Several states have considered similar legislation. In Arkansas, a federal judge in August blocked enforcement of a law that required parental consent for minors to create new social media accounts.

At a signing ceremony, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis says being a dad has informed his views on Florida House Bill 3, which bans social media accounts for children under 14 and require parental permission for 15- and 16-year-olds.
Supporters in Florida hope the bill will withstand legal challenges because it would ban social media formats based on addictive features such as notification alerts and auto-play videos, rather than on their content.


Renner said he expects social media companies to “sue the second after this is signed. But you know what? We’re going to beat them. We’re going to beat them and we’re never, ever going to stop.”

DeSantis also acknowledged the law will be challenged on First Amendment issues, and bemoaned the fact the “Stop Woke Act” he signed into law two years ago was recently struck down by an appeals court with a majority of Republican-appointed judges. They ruled it violated free speech rights by banning private business from including discussions about racial inequality in employee training.

“Any time I see a bill, if I don’t think it’s constitutional, I veto it,” said DeSantis, a lawyer, expressing confidence that the social media ban will be upheld. “We not only satisfied me, but we also satisfied, I think, a fair application of the law and Constitution.”

Khara Boender, a state policy director for the Computer & Communications Industry Association, said in a news release that she understands the concern for online safety but expressed doubt the law will “meaningfully achieve those goals without infringing on the First Amendment rights of younger users.”

She also anticipated a legal challenge.

“This law could create substantial obstacles for young people seeking access to online information, a right afforded to all Americans regardless of age,” Bonder said.

The bill overwhelmingly passed both chambers, with some Democrats joining a majority of Republicans who supported the measure. Opponents argued it is unconstitutional and government shouldn’t interfere with decisions parents make with their children.

“This bill goes too far in taking away parents’ rights,” Democratic Rep. Anna Eskamani said in a news release. “Instead of banning social media access, it would be better to ensure improved parental oversight tools, improved access to data to stop bad actors, alongside major investments in Florida’s mental health systems and programs.”

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This story has been corrected to show that parental permission is required for 14- and 15-year-olds, not 16-year-olds.
 
do you think kids should buy booze at 14? no different.
What the fuck...

So a kid getting drunk, and a kid watching videos by their peers, on a phone is the same thing?

I hate to beat this horse, but the scary algorithm isn't sending you chinese propaganda, it's feeding you back the things that interest you.

And your feed won't look anything like my feed, well... .if you like girls with bouncing boobs, truck, comedians, music, and libertarian content, it may, but whatever it looks like, it's feeding you back things you like.

It would be a pretty shitty app, if it was showing you content that didn't interest you.
 
What the fuck...

So a kid getting drunk, and a kid watching videos by their peers, on a phone is the same thing?

I hate to beat this horse, but the scary algorithm isn't sending you chinese propaganda, it's feeding you back the things that interest you.

And your feed won't look anything like my feed, well... .if you like girls with bouncing boobs, truck, comedians, music, and libertarian content, it may, but whatever it looks like, it's feeding you back things you like.

It would be a pretty shitty app, if it was showing you content that didn't interest you.

child restrictions are a real thing, 12 year old's are jelly heads.
 
Bad move by desantis. I would rather see the media companies have to be much stricter when it comes to 3rd party access to children data, actually all data for that matter.
 
do you think kids should buy booze at 14? no different.
No booze, but definitely hand grenades.


What the fuck...

So a kid getting drunk, and a kid watching videos by their peers, on a phone is the same thing?

I hate to beat this horse, but the scary algorithm isn't sending you chinese propaganda, it's feeding you back the things that interest you.

And your feed won't look anything like my feed, well... .if you like girls with bouncing boobs, truck, comedians, music, and libertarian content, it may, but whatever it looks like, it's feeding you back things you like.

It would be a pretty shitty app, if it was showing you content that didn't interest you.

That phone screen is probably worse for their brains than a little booze every now and then. Dopamine is a hell of a drug.
 
Not a fan of the .gov intervention into much of anything but if parents would raise their crotch fruit instead of letting them on devices 24/7 the magic wouldn't have a reason to justify the power grab.

I'm sure fucktard up will be a long to point out that they're just expanding an already existing law/policy etc that most have. If I'm not mistaken don't you have to confirm that you're 13+ when signing up to this shit?
 
What the fuck...

So a kid getting drunk, and a kid watching videos by their peers, on a phone is the same thing?

I hate to beat this horse, but the scary algorithm isn't sending you chinese propaganda, it's feeding you back the things that interest you.

And your feed won't look anything like my feed, well... .if you like girls with bouncing boobs, truck, comedians, music, and libertarian content, it may, but whatever it looks like, it's feeding you back things you like.

It would be a pretty shitty app, if it was showing you content that didn't interest you.

it's doing both. May not be Chinese propaganda, but it's propaganda nonetheless.
 
It is Floriduh, so he probably is a better parent than most......
 
While I don't agree with nanny state legislation.

Anyone who has a kid, that takes part in Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, et al as a pre teen... is a bad parent.
 
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