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I use QCad for everything. Pretty traditional, cheap, works well. I like it a lot for sending stuff to SCS
 
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bad zuki said:
Dam. I know he's THE expert in that field. :homer:
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he tries, but two sentences in everyone knows he doesn't know what he is talking about in this particular subject. Just ignore him, he feels like he did something and wonders off to tell someone else that their favorite color is wrong in a different thread
 
not extra help on the cad but Sendcutsend has been great to get one off parts from. Not as cheap as it used to be but it's pretty quick.
 
I looked at the Arc Droid but it's like $2500 plus another couple hundred for a cut table of some kind.
I suppose on thick stuff could just put the steel on sawhorses.

Someone had talked about it being portable. I can't think of too many projects that have flat surfaces that large that I need to cut something in place and needs to be fairly precise and won't matter if it's blasted with molten hot metal.

Played around with Fusion a bit after work and got a sample file sent to Cut Cut Send :flipoff2:.
No idea how someone could do complex designs in that program, would take forever. Took me some swearing just to make a simple part i could draw on paper in 10 seconds... or know in my mind without wasting time.

Didn't realize they charge for by the square.
The parts I did was a boomerang shape about 3" wide and 1 leg a foot, the other 16".
In only 1/2" (max thickness they have) it's over $100 each, and I'd need 8 cause I'd double them up. Wanted at least 3/4"thick, 1" is better.
Seems like it's billed out as each using a 16x18" piece of steel.

If I make a recentangle of about same sq inch, it's about $35.

Course I was figuring on it i cut them to use steel I have laying around, so free, but if I had to buy a sheet of 1/2", it's probably in the $1500 area.

For this project, probably cheaper to use some 3 or 4" wide stock and weld it at the angle and just spend a while grinding the corners.
 
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urjb said:
We’re using q-cad.. it sucks at first.. after that it’s just dumb.. but it works and I’m fairly sure the base model is free.
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That’s what’s on the plasma table computer in the shop. If I need to bang out some basic stuff it’s fine. Anything more than rectangles with a hole or 2 It’s quicker to walk back to the office and draw it on solidworks.

I could probably make qcad work for screwing around at home but I wouldn’t want to try to use it to make money
 
AKnate said:
I looked at the Arc Droid but it's like $2500 plus another couple hundred for a cut table of some kind.
I suppose on thick stuff could just put the steel on sawhorses.

Someone had talked about it being portable. I can't think of too many projects that have flat surfaces that large that I need to cut something in place and needs to be fairly precise and won't matter if it's blasted with molten hot metal.

Played around with Solid Works a bit after work and got a sample file sent to Cut Cut Send :flipoff2:.
No idea how someone could do complex designs in that program, would take forever.

Didn't realize they charge for by the square.
The parts I did was a boomerang shape about 3" wide and 1 leg a foot, the other 16".
In only 1/2" (max thickness they have) it's over $100 each, and I'd need 8 cause I'd double them up. Wanted at least 3/4"thick, 1" is better.
Seems like it's billed out as each using a 16x18" piece of steel.

If I make a recentangle of about same sq inch, it's about $35.

Course I was figuring on it i cut them to use steel I have laying around, so free, but if I had to buy a sheet of 1/2", it's probably in the $1500 area.

For this project, probably cheaper to use some 3 or 4" wide stock and weld it at the angle and just spend a while grinding the corners.
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Yeah that's not what you use SCS for IMO.
IT's mail order and envelope limited so creating a bunch of really simple, large size, and thick metal shapes is not the benefit of SCS.
Intricate highly accurate, fast parts are the strong suit.

Those boomerangs you want would be really easy to cut with a wood pattern and a hand plasma, except at 1" thick you are gonna need a really bad ass cutter not a ching long.
 
CarterKraft said:
Yeah that's not what you use SCS for IMO.
IT's mail order and envelope limited so creating a bunch of really simple, large size, and thick metal shapes is not the benefit of SCS.
Intricate highly accurate, fast parts are the strong
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Didn't figure CNC plasma to be that accurate.

The stuff I've seen cut, +/- 1/16" is about it, especially factoring the bevel and pierce holes.
Which is still better than I can do by hand though.

I'd need to get pics of the wall sign at the doctor's office. Been there a few years, around when the cut up metal signs with back lighting was all the rage.

No idea if it's CNC or a half blind person with bad shakes did it but it's hilariously bad.
 
I sent them a DXF file and $800 and they sent me expensive scrap metal.

Somehow, a local shop in Vt was half the price, my friend in Jersey had the opposite experience. ScS was half price of local to him.
 
Thatg9659 said:
I sent them a DXF file and $800 and they sent me expensive scrap metal.

Somehow, a local shop in Vt was half the price, my friend in Jersey had the opposite experience. ScS was half price of local to him.
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There aren't local shops here like that that I know of.

More guys with tables that are doing a favor.
One of the bigger welding shops used to be so against plasma he'd just about match you out the door if you even said the word.
 
AKnate said:
I looked at the Arc Droid but it's like $2500 plus another couple hundred for a cut table of some kind.
I suppose on thick stuff could just put the steel on sawhorses.

Someone had talked about it being portable. I can't think of too many projects that have flat surfaces that large that I need to cut something in place and needs to be fairly precise and won't matter if it's blasted with molten hot metal.
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If you're doing a field repair out in the middle of nowhere and you can set it up on sawhorses and clamp it to a piece of plate and turn out an acceptable part, you can easily save a day or two of back and forth. One job like that could easily pay for the machine.
AKnate said:
Played around with Fusion a bit after work and got a sample file sent to Cut Cut Send :flipoff2:.
No idea how someone could do complex designs in that program, would take forever. Took me some swearing just to make a simple part i could draw on paper in 10 seconds... or know in my mind without wasting time.
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You just suck at it. Give me a dimensioned sketch and I'll give you a file in 5-10 minutes.

It's not like other CAD programs. I originally learned CAD in a civil construction and surveying environment and modeling in Fusion was completely different from that. Once you learn the basics of a sketch, it'll click and things go way faster.

AKnate said:
Didn't realize they charge for by the square.
The parts I did was a boomerang shape about 3" wide and 1 leg a foot, the other 16".
In only 1/2" (max thickness they have) it's over $100 each, and I'd need 8 cause I'd double them up. Wanted at least 3/4"thick, 1" is better.
Seems like it's billed out as each using a 16x18" piece of steel.
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So make a file with all 8 parts nested in the most efficient manner and see how it affects the pricing.
 
AKnate said:
Didn't realize they charge for by the square.
The parts I did was a boomerang shape about 3" wide and 1 leg a foot, the other 16".
In only 1/2" (max thickness they have) it's over $100 each, and I'd need 8 cause I'd double them up. Wanted at least 3/4"thick, 1" is better.
Seems like it's billed out as each using a 16x18" piece of steel.
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did you want them to pick up the tab for the scrap your part creates?

anything above 5/8" is water jetting territory if you want something with a decent cut.
 
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AKnate said:
Didn't figure CNC plasma to be that accurate.

The stuff I've seen cut, +/- 1/16" is about it, especially factoring the bevel and pierce holes.
Which is still better than I can do by hand though.

I'd need to get pics of the wall sign at the doctor's office. Been there a few years, around when the cut up metal signs with back lighting was all the rage.

No idea if it's CNC or a half blind person with bad shakes did it but it's hilariously bad.
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Send Cut Send has laser and plasma, I'd bet most of the stuff people have cut there is laser.

$35 worth of laser cut stainless tags, 25 of them.
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mobil1syn said:
did you want them to pick up the tab for the scrap your part creates?

anything above 5/8" is water jetting territory if you want something with a decent cut.
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It wouldn't create that much scrap, maybe a few inches of material.

Tried to make it so 4 were together staggered to fit a square of material and it wouldn't allow it
 
AKnate said:
It wouldn't create that much scrap, maybe a few inches of material.

Tried to make it so 4 were together staggered to fit a square of material and it wouldn't allow it
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Attach them with a little ~1/4 tab or two so they're all one part nested as efficiently as you can get them. Cut the tabs when you get the parts.
 
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