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Well, it seems to be the theme with more then MM...i ordered 14 bolt hubs with 8x170 bolt patten from IMS, and they took forever. Like almost 3 months. He first quoted me for 10 days:eek:. He had every excuse in the book, even went the way of behemoth and have me tracking for parts that weren't sent... that went on for a solid month before i completely called him out asking him what he would do in my situation. He sent them 3 days after that.
Hopefully you see your stuff soon because having that much cash out there with nothing to show for gets infuriating:mad3:
Good luck!
 
What is IMS? While your experience seems terrible, I didn't know this conversion was out there.

Found them, Innovative Machining Solutions. They do have some bad ass looking stuff on their site.
 
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YeeP said:
What is IMS? While your experience seems terrible, I didn't know this conversion was out there.

Found them, Innovative Machining Solutions. They do have some bad ass looking stuff on their site.
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Unfortunately they're the only ones that make those hubs for the aam 14 bolt. There is another company that makes them for the og 14 bolt, but those hubs do not work with the newer one.
Their stuff looks awesome, but if they quote 10 days to ship and it takes over 3 months, then i don't want to give them any good reviews. If they would've told me 3 months until they shipped it would be different...
 
'84 Bronco II said:
I haven't updated in a while, but not much to report other than I am still waiting on my transfer case from Midnight Metalworks. I am just over the 12 week mark for the lead time they had published on their website at the time I ordered. Looking at their Facebook page doesn't inspire confidence as there are people who have been waiting for 8-9 months posting about their dissatisfaction, and the company representative who is running the page just keeps giving everyone the "check's in the mail" type response :shaking:

I guess I'll try to get in contact with them this week and see if they can give me the warm fuzzies. It is just kind of shitty since they charge you at the time of the order, whereas Advanced Adapters only charges you once they are ready to ship. I am really hoping this case lives up to the hype...
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Cool case and cool idea, but after seeing what looks like another Behemoth coming about, and learning some very insider information about owner being a POS from someone at Trail Hero...I would have a hard time giving them a dime of my money.
 
So I finally got in touch with Midnight Metalworks to see what is up with my case now that I am over the 19 week point since ordering (originally quoted 10-12 weeks), and here is the response I got back:

We thank you for your patience . We are currently returning to our backlog D300 orders . As most of the industry we are playing catch up with our production . Due to unforeseen delays in receiving parts and materials throughout this year we have a backlog on all the products we manufacture . Which unfortunately has led to prolonged lead times . You are currently #70 on our production list . We are fulfilling orders from oldest to newest which puts your order out within the first quarter of next year . We apologize for the delay on your build and are striving to fulfill our backlog as quickly as we can . Sincerely Midnight Metalworks .
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I guess I'll order an Atlas and sell whichever one comes in later :shaking: At least Advance Adapters doesn't charge you until they are actually building your case.
 
'84 Bronco II said:
So I finally got in touch with Midnight Metalworks to see what is up with my case now that I am over the 19 week point since ordering (originally quoted 10-12 weeks), and here is the response I got back:



I guess I'll order an Atlas and sell whichever one comes in later :shaking: At least Advance Adapters doesn't charge you until they are actually building your case.
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Still waiting for my February order...
 
crazybluerider said:
Still waiting for my February order...
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Have you communicated with them recently and know what number you supposedly are on their production list? I just responded to my original order confirmation email ([email protected]). You only ordered a case, right? I'd be curious as to when they say you'll get yours; they responded to my email in one business day. I'd hate to order an Atlas and have it show up in January, but if it is going to be later than March next year I think I'll order an Atlas this week.
 
'84 Bronco II said:
Have you communicated with them recently and know what number you supposedly are on their production list? I just responded to my original order confirmation email ([email protected]). You only ordered a case, right? I'd be curious as to when they say you'll get yours; they responded to my email in one business day. I'd hate to order an Atlas and have it show up in January, but if it is going to be later than March next year I think I'll order an Atlas this week.
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I haven't asked in a month or so. I just fired off a new inquiry, I've been forgetting to do that and this reminded me. I did order a complete case with 32 spline outputs and 4:1 gears.
 
crazybluerider said:
I haven't asked in a month or so. I just fired off a new inquiry, I've been forgetting to do that and this reminded me. I did order a complete case with 32 spline outputs and 4:1 gears.
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Same as me then, let me know what they tell you :beer:
 
Seeing the pics of them makes me wonder if I should have gone that way... Brand new unused atlas sitting with my chassis right now... You want what you don't have I guess.
 
YeeP said:
Seeing the pics of them makes me wonder if I should have gone that way... Brand new unused atlas sitting with my chassis right now... You want what you don't have I guess.
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I think that the Atlas is still a stronger case. To me if you have a V8 the atlas is the easy choice. Especially in a heavier rig. Lighter stuff and/or smaller motors muddy the choice some.
 
'84 Bronco II said:
So I finally got in touch with Midnight Metalworks to see what is up with my case now that I am over the 19 week point since ordering (originally quoted 10-12 weeks), and here is the response I got back:



I guess I'll order an Atlas and sell whichever one comes in later :shaking: At least Advance Adapters doesn't charge you until they are actually building your case.
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Not to be a Debbie downer but I’ll be shocked if you actually get one.

I’d ask for your
$ back now and if not file a dispute while you can.

Imo AA has stayed on top of it by not collecting the money upfront. Once ANY business takes the $ up front and can’t keep up it’s a sinking ship.

MAC33 said:
How’s MM on their delivery times?

I’d like to order a case in the near future but have had a multiple weird interactions with them on FB regarding some Dana 300 parts
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MAC33 said:
Not to be a Debbie downer but I’ll be shocked if you actually get one.

I’d ask for your
$ back now and if not file a dispute while you can.

Imo AA has stayed on top of it by not collecting the money upfront. Once ANY business takes the $ up front and can’t keep up it’s a sinking ship.
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I managed to get a doubler from Behemoth (although that only took two months), so maybe I'm the exception :flipoff2: :homer:

The thought crossed my mind, and I am planning to check in with the credit card company about the time limit to file a claim if I haven't passed it already. I have read that Midnight Metalworks charges a substantial "restocking fee" on cancelled orders which is bullshit if they still haven't started building the case.
 
So not trying to defend MM here. I think their stuff looks awesome. I have to think that if I were starting to build transfer cases, it would make ramping up business, making payments to create my product, etc much easier if I had more money.

I'm not a business person and have never done anything like that.

Is it wrong to think that they needed to do it that way because they are a new business (vs AA)?

Feel free to school me, just saying what's on my mind.
 
All these new companies have many examples of what NOT to do in the off-road community for business laid out for them. Behemoth was doing the same thing a couple years before MMW came around. All MMW had to do was look at behemoth at the time and not do what they were doing. Taking customers money before having product to ship or even lined up to be made, getting backlogged, starting new ventures/products before being caught up on orders. MMW seems to be working on turn key rigs and chassis's yet can't make happy on the 70+ (?) people waiting on cases. What ever happened to something as simple as "first in, first out".

Good luck with this, I hope all goes well for you financially and transfer case wise. Keep us informed/ up to date.

Edit: props to AA for not taking money until your case is being made. This is how it should work.
 
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'84 Bronco II said:
I managed to get a doubler from Behemoth (although that only took two months), so maybe I'm the exception :flipoff2: :homer:

The thought crossed my mind, and I am planning to check in with the credit card company about the time limit to file a claim if I haven't passed it already. I have read that Midnight Metalworks charges a substantial "restocking fee" on cancelled orders which is bullshit if they still haven't started building the case.
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I would absolutely come unglued if they tried to pull that shit on me. :mad3:
 
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