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Being Cheap Is Stupid And Costs You More

jimmy123456789

jimmy123456789

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Customers in general want everything to be as cheap as possible, and often look at price above all else, sacrificing quality and longevity for a cheaper price. Often these same people are dissatisfied with outcome of this, but rarely seem to learn that it was their desire to save a buck over all else that landed them where they’re at.




For example, I had a guy I used to work with that bought the shitty, cheapest work boots Walmart sold and then bitched because they’d fall apart every couple months. I suggested that he buy some higher quality boots that would last longer (my Carolinas last me 2-3 per pair) but he balked at that and said “I can’t afford better ones”.




Using that excuse once I can see, but if you do it over and over again and keep bitching about it it shows that you’re both too short sighted or stupid to save up your money and buy better quality boots, or you’re just insane and doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. They were shitty before and they’re still shitty, either buy better ones or shut the fuck up.




I see this bullshit each and every day. People want high quality good for rock bottom prices, and don’t seem to understand that to achieve that low price corners have to be cut and quality is going to suffer. Same goes for people who want everything “made in the USA” but are only willing to pay “made in China” prices. They’re out of touch with reality and in for constant disappointment in their lives.




Cheap, fast and good, pick any two. Consumers want it all, will never get it, and don’t deserve it with that mentality. If you want quality, you’re going to have to pay for it, if you want cheap, buy your cheap crap and deal with the issues that come up because you’re a dumbfuck that only cares about price.




See guys in the automotive trade using shitty Harbor Freight tools, decrying Snap On, MAC, even craftsman as “overpriced”. Yet these are the same guys that round off bolts, the tool doesn’t do what it’s supposed to, and deal with other problems that using poor quality tools/goods leads to. Yet they never seem to learn and their very next purchase they’re right back with the “cheap above all else” mentality.




So what do you guys think? How much does price matter vs quality and longevity? And what do you think of people that only care about a cheap price and would literally slit their mothers throat if it would save them a nickel. What’s the difference between being frugal (getting the best value for your dollar) and being cheap (getting the lowest price) and where do you guys draw the line?
 
I thought this was another flat rate discussion...
 
Some cheap stuff works great. Some cheap stuff doesn't. We live in a disposable, plastic society.
As for boots, the guy needs boots. If his $100 boots only last 3 months, and he can only save $50/month in his boot fund, it's going to take a long time to get good quality boots.
Also, I'm skeptical that a mechanic's boots are able to last 2-3 years of actual work. I would think the various fluids, as well as use on concrete, would burn them out before that. And if they're throw away boots, even made in the USA, you're still buying cheap crap. Top of the line cheap crap, but cheap crap nonetheless. Good boots can be resoled, and rebuilt when panels wear out.
 
You have discribed this place and the P4x4 forum membership to a T.

Spot on.


jimmy123456789 said:
Customers in general want everything to be as cheap as possible, and often look at price above all else, sacrificing quality and longevity for a cheaper price. Often these same people are dissatisfied with outcome of this, but rarely seem to learn that it was their desire to save a buck over all else that landed them where they’re at.




For example, I had a guy I used to work with that bought the shitty, cheapest work boots Walmart sold and then bitched because they’d fall apart every couple months. I suggested that he buy some higher quality boots that would last longer (my Carolinas last me 2-3 per pair) but he balked at that and said “I can’t afford better ones”.









Using that excuse once I can see, but if you do it over and over again and keep bitching about it it shows that you’re both too short sighted or stupid to save up your money and buy better quality boots, or you’re just insane and doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. They were shitty before and they’re still shitty, either buy better ones or shut the fuck up.




I see this bullshit each and every day. People want high quality good for rock bottom prices, and don’t seem to understand that to achieve that low price corners have to be cut and quality is going to suffer. Same goes for people who want everything “made in the USA” but are only willing to pay “made in China” prices. They’re out of touch with reality and in for constant disappointment in their lives.




Cheap, fast and good, pick any two. Consumers want it all, will never get it, and don’t deserve it with that mentality. If you want quality, you’re going to have to pay for it, if you want cheap, buy your cheap crap and deal with the issues that come up because you’re a dumbfuck that only cares about price.




See guys in the automotive trade using shitty Harbor Freight tools, decrying Snap On, MAC, even craftsman as “overpriced”. Yet these are the same guys that round off bolts, the tool doesn’t do what it’s supposed to, and deal with other problems that using poor quality tools/goods leads to. Yet they never seem to learn and their very next purchase they’re right back with the “cheap above all else” mentality.




So what do you guys think? How much does price matter vs quality and longevity? And what do you think of people that only care about a cheap price and would literally slit their mothers throat if it would save them a nickel. What’s the difference between being frugal (getting the best value for your dollar) and being cheap (getting the lowest price) and where do you guys draw the line?
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I get burned by this all the time because I have pre buyers remorse and in general am a cheap ass.

I will say this is why I work on my own cars, that way I can actually buy a quality part and install it the right way, instead of paying premium prices for cheap parts installed by some fucking hack at an inflated price. I have learned my lesson with cheap shit for cars, still learning it in other areas of life (appliances, furniture etc...)
 
Go back to Reddit you worthless swine. The only people who are gonna agree with the shit you say are the NEETs who don't have the experience to call you on your bullshit.
 
arse_sidewards said:
Go back to Reddit you worthless swine. The only people who are gonna agree with the shit you say are the NEETs who don't have the experience to call you on your bullshit.
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Call me on my bullshit then if you have the experience.

Would you rather have a low quality piece of shit tool that was cheap or a mid priced one that does the job well? Would you rather spend $30 on boots every couple months rather than $150 on a pair that’ll last a couple years? would you rather buy the cheap aftermarket part that is likely to fail (or doesn’t work out of the box, cough Dorman sensors cough) or OE that actually works.

Being cheap also costs you more time and energy. Takes more time out of your day and inconveniences you by having to run to the store to replace the low quality item you bought that didn’t last. Or that cheap tool breaks on you when you need it most, but cheap is all that matters right? Fuck quality, fuck longevity, I want the lowest cost!

The only point I’m making with this thread is that more should go into your decision than cost alone, but it seems like the majority of people only take the initial price into consideration. Tell me where that’s wrong.

Ill wait....
 
Slander said:
I get burned by this all the time because I have pre buyers remorse and in general am a cheap ass.

I will say this is why I work on my own cars, that way I can actually buy a quality part and install it the right way, instead of paying premium prices for cheap parts installed by some fucking hack at an inflated price. I have learned my lesson with cheap shit for cars, still learning it in other areas of life (appliances, furniture etc...)
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At least you’re learning and the lesson is hitting home.

Met people well over twice my age that still don’t get this. They’re also the same ones that bitch that “everything nowadays is junk”. Not true, you just buy the cheapest whatever and expect greatness. You get what you pay for. There’s a reason why that harbor freight wrench set cost as much as one Snap On wrench, it’s because they’re cheap Chinese garbage that MIGHT work in a pinch if that’s all you have, but your expectations should be way lower.

Consumers have this idea that all products are virtually the same, only difference is cost and you’re “paying for the name.” No you’re paying for quality, and in order to get the cost down they’ve got to lower the standards of manufacturing, materials, etc.

People who price shop (and only consider price) and end up with junk are getting exactly what they deserve. That’s like going to McDonald’s and bitching that you didn’t get a top notch cheeseburger. It’s fucking McDonald’s (or Walmart, harbor freight, etc, etc.) what’d you expect ??

Dumb fucks
 
Fuck off jimmy...I didn't even bother to read the post, but know you're probably bitching about your pathetic life pretending to be a mechanic.
 
Totally agree. I’ve followed this philosophy for quite sometime myself after learning the hard way. I stopped buying shitty shoes for crews stuff years ago as they would wear out in no time, good set of Timberlands last 10 times as long and are way more comfortable. Sneakers I only buy Sketchers these days as I will get well over a year out of a pair.

just recently spent big on a real leather couch to replace the cheap pleather one we got when we first bought the house. After just a few years the pleather had begun to peel off its backing in big sheets and it looked like ass.

i am definitely a firm believer in you get what you pay for and buy once cry once.
 
granitestatedestroyer said:
God damn, Jimmy's horse is fucking tall.
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I love how people like to throw out phrases like “get off your high horse” or “you just don’t get it” when they can’t directly refute what someone else says, or even offer a counterpoint. It’s just “I don’t agree and you’re arrogant”.
 
Sweet. Another jimmy86577686=7*=78 thread.
 
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