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ATF Final Rule "Engaged in the Business"

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Final rule for changes to who the ATF has decided is Engaged in the Business of selling firearms as a dealer, was put out yesterday. Goes into effect 30 days from yesterday.


You can read the entire rule above but I included the important bit below.

§ 478.13 Definition of “engaged in the business as a dealer in firearms other than a
gunsmith or a pawnbroker.”
(a) Definition. A person who devotes time, attention, and labor to dealing in
firearms as a regular course of trade or business to predominantly earn a profit through
the repetitive purchase and resale of firearms. The term shall not include a person who
makes occasional sales, exchanges, or purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a
personal collection or for a hobby, or who sells all or part of the person’s personal
collection of firearms. In addition, the term shall not include an auctioneer who provides
only auction services on commission to assist in liquidating firearms at an estate-type
auction; provided, that the auctioneer does not purchase the firearms, or take possession
of the firearms for sale on consignment.
(b) Fact-specific inquiry. Whether a person is engaged in the business as a dealer
under paragraph (a) of this section is a fact-specific inquiry. Selling large numbers of
firearms or engaging or offering to engage in frequent transactions may be highly

indicative of business activity. However, there is no minimum threshold number of
firearms purchased or sold that triggers the licensing requirement. Similarly, there is no
minimum number of transactions that determines whether a person is “engaged in the
business” of dealing in firearms. For example, even a single firearm transaction or offer
to engage in a transaction, when combined with other evidence (e.g., where a person
represents to others a willingness and ability to purchase more firearms for resale), may
require a license; whereas, a single isolated firearm transaction without such evidence
would not require a license. At all times, the determination of whether a person is
engaged in the business of dealing in firearms is based on the totality of the
circumstances.
(c) Presumptions that a person is engaged in the business as a dealer. In civil
and administrative proceedings, a person shall be presumed to be engaged in the business
of dealing in firearms as defined in paragraph (a) of this section, absent reliable evidence
to the contrary, when it is shown that the person—
(1) Resells or offers for resale firearms, and also represents to potential buyers or
otherwise demonstrates a willingness and ability to purchase and resell additional
firearms (i.e., to be a source of additional firearms for resale);
(2) Repetitively purchases for the purpose of resale, or repetitively resells or
offers for resale, firearms—
(i) Through straw or sham businesses, or individual straw purchasers or
sellers; or
(ii) That cannot lawfully be purchased, received, or possessed under
Federal, State, local, or Tribal law, including:

(A) Stolen firearms (e.g., 18 U.S.C. 922(j));
(B) Firearms with the licensee’s serial number removed,
obliterated, or altered, or not identified as required by law (e.g., 18 U.S.C.
922(k) or 26 U.S.C. 5861(i));
(C) Firearms imported in violation of law (e.g., 18 U.S.C. 922(l),
22 U.S.C. 2778, or 26 U.S.C. 5844, 5861(k)); or
(D) Machineguns or other weapons defined as firearms under 26
U.S.C. 5845(b) that cannot lawfully be possessed (e.g., 18 U.S.C. 922(o);
26 U.S.C. 5861(d));
(3) Repetitively resells or offers for resale firearms—
(i) Within 30 days after the person purchased the firearms; or
(ii) Within one year after the person purchased the firearms if they are—
(A) New, or like new in their original packaging; or
(B) The same make and model, or variants thereof;
(4) As a former licensee (or responsible person acting on behalf of the former
licensee), resells or offers for resale to a person (other than a licensee in accordance with
§§ 478.57 or 478.78) firearms that were in the business inventory of the former licensee
at the time the license was terminated (i.e., license revocation, denial of license renewal,
license expiration, or surrender of license), whether or not such firearms were transferred
to a responsible person of the former licensee after the license was terminated in
accordance with §§ 478.57(b)(2) or 478.78(b)(2); or
(5) As a former licensee (or responsible person acting on behalf of the former
licensee), resells or offers for resale firearms that were transferred to the licensee’s

personal collection or otherwise as personal firearms in accordance with 18 U.S.C. 923(c)
and 27 CFR 478.125a(a) prior to the time the license was terminated, unless:
(i) The firearms were received and transferred without any intent to
willfully evade the restrictions placed on licensees by chapter 44, title 18,
United States Code; and
(ii) One year has passed from the date of transfer to the licensee’s personal
collection or otherwise as personal firearms.
(d) Predominantly earn a profit. (1) Definition. The intent underlying the sale or
disposition of firearms is predominantly one of obtaining pecuniary gain, as opposed to
other intents, such as improving or liquidating a personal firearms collection: Provided,
that proof of profit, including the intent to profit, shall not be required as to a person who
engages in the regular and repetitive purchase and disposition of firearms for criminal
purposes or terrorism. For purposes of this section, a person may have the intent to profit
even if the person does not actually obtain the intended pecuniary gain from the sale or
disposition of firearms.

 
(2) Presumptions that a person has intent to predominantly earn a profit. In civil
and administrative proceedings, a person shall be presumed to have the intent to
predominantly earn a profit through the repetitive purchase and resale of firearms as
defined in paragraph (d)(1) of this section, absent reliable evidence to the contrary, when
it is shown that the person—
(i) Repetitively or continuously advertises, markets, or otherwise promotes a
firearms business (e.g., advertises or posts firearms for resale, including through the
Internet or other digital means, establishes a website to offer their firearms for resale,

makes available business cards, or tags firearms with sales prices), regardless of whether
the person incurs expenses or only promotes the business informally;
(ii) Repetitively or continuously purchases, rents, or otherwise exchanges
(directly or indirectly) something of value to secure permanent or temporary physical
space to display firearms they offer for resale, including part or all of a business
premises, a table or space at a gun show, or a display case;
(iii) Makes and maintains records to document, track, or calculate profits and
losses from firearms repetitively purchased for resale;
(iv) Purchases or otherwise secures merchant services as a business (e.g., credit
card transaction services, digital wallet for business) through which the person intends to
repetitively accept payments for firearms transactions;
(v) Formally or informally purchases, hires, or otherwise secures business security
services (e.g., a central station-monitored security system registered to a business, or
guards for security) to protect firearms assets and repetitive firearms transactions;
(vi) Formally or informally establishes a business entity, trade name, or online
business account, including an account using a business name on a social media or other
website, through which the person makes, or offers to make, repetitive firearms
transactions; or
(vii) Secures or applies for a State or local business license to purchase for resale
or to resell merchandise that includes firearms.
(e) Conduct that does not support a presumption. A person shall not be presumed
to be engaged in the business of dealing in firearms when reliable evidence shows that
the person is only reselling or otherwise transferring firearms—

(1) As bona fide gifts;
(2) Occasionally to obtain more valuable, desirable, or useful firearms for the
person’s personal collection;
(3) Occasionally to a licensee or to a family member for lawful purposes;
(4) To liquidate (without restocking) all or part of the person’s personal
collection; or
(5) To liquidate firearms—
(i) That are inherited; or
(ii) Pursuant to a court order; or
(6) To assist in liquidating firearms as an auctioneer when providing auction
services on commission at an estate-type auction.
(f) Rebuttal evidence. Reliable evidence of the conduct set forth in paragraph (e)
of this section may be used to rebut any presumption in paragraphs (c) or (d)(2) of this
section that a person is engaged in the business of dealing in firearms, or intends to
predominantly earn a profit through the repetitive purchase and resale of firearms.
(g) Presumptions, conduct, and rebuttal evidence not exhaustive. The activities
set forth in the rebuttable presumptions in paragraphs (c) and (d)(2) of this section, and
the activities and rebuttal evidence set forth in paragraphs (e) and (f) of this section, are
not exhaustive of the conduct or evidence that may be considered in determining whether
a person is engaged in the business of dealing in firearms, or has the intent to
predominantly earn a profit through the repetitive purchase and resale of firearms.
(h) Criminal proceedings. The rebuttable presumptions in paragraphs (c) and
(d)(2) of this section shall not apply to any criminal case, although they may be useful to

courts in criminal cases, for example, when instructing juries regarding permissible
inferences.
 
Cliff's notes?

Or a TubeEwe vid from some guy blabbing for 10 minutes saying what could have been said in 30 seconds.
 
Cliff's notes?

Or a TubeEwe vid from some guy blabbing for 10 minutes saying what could have been said in 30 seconds.
The ATF is expanding who is considered a Firearms Dealer. Aka individuals selling on Gun Broker/Gun Shows as an individual potentially now fall under the commercial umbrella and need to obtain their FFL and run their sales through NICS. Which also means they are responsible for all the records keeping that comes with it. They directly discuss how this will help firearms tracing for criminal events.

They are using new criteria such as selling firearms you purchased within 30 days, re-selling firearms still new in the box under 1 year of ownership, multiple purchases and sales of the same/variant of a model of firearm.

It also appears if you buy a firearm with the intent to resell, ie buy something really cheap and have intent to flip for a profit also falls under this as well.
 
The ATF is expanding who is considered a Firearms Dealer. Aka individuals selling on Gun Broker/Gun Shows as an individual potentially now fall under the commercial umbrella and need to obtain their FFL and run their sales through NICS. Which also means they are responsible for all the records keeping that comes with it. They directly discuss how this will help firearms tracing for criminal events.

They are using new criteria such as selling firearms you purchased within 30 days, re-selling firearms still new in the box under 1 year of ownership, multiple purchases and sales of the same/variant of a model of firearm.

It also appears if you buy a firearm with the intent to resell, ie buy something really cheap and have intent to flip for a profit also falls under this as well.

So they're being commie scum like usual. Got it.
 
It's hilarious that the gun grabbers are back peddling to the extent they are due to red backlash:usa:
Screwsoms dog, portentino just yanked/scrapped the registration crap bill to enhance fines already in existence. :stirthepot:
Pussy lost
 
Their rules is filled with so many vagueness I don't seem how any of this can stand. Intent is nearly impossible to make into a rule or law. Ass hats

Are you new to the Biden DOJ/ATF/etc?

They throw shit against the wall and see what sticks.
 
Even if it went through congress and was passed as a law, I still wouldn’t give a shit.
 
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