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Anyone playing with "PCC's"?

What kind of heathen keeps a magazine in their pocket? Poor ones that’s who. :flipoff2:All joking aside. I’ve lived in the desert for 4 years now. I go shooting damn near every weekend and have never had that happen with the 5 double stack Glocks that I own.
I keep a 33 in my pocket all the time, after a couple weeks you gotta shake the ammo out because they end up stuck halfway down the tube
some squeezy shenanigans helps the crappy clear ETS mags along, but the factory glock ones don't squeeze near as good

makes me wonder if any of them make a reduced capacity mag that breaks up the double stack, like the sten mags you'd run into sometimes where they stuck a couple pieces of wire down either side of the inside of the mag body, for desert service
 
much rather have uzi mags than glock
single feed sucks ass

iirc don't the colt mags got a hold open tab on them? Might be worthwhile for that alone over cheap surplus uzi mags...

Uzi/colt feed like an AR mag too, way easier.

Ya, they do and I agree.

What kind of heathen keeps a magazine in their pocket? Poor ones that’s who. :flipoff2:All joking aside. I’ve lived in the desert for 4 years now. I go shooting damn near every weekend and have never had that happen with the 5 double stack Glocks that I own.

How often are you shooting 33 rnd mags quickly though?


I was hoping to find a scorpion/akv mag adapter, because they're dirt cheap and seem to be really good. I'm guessing they're too wide to fit in a standard ar magwel?




My thought was if I can get a ~$300 5" barrel upper and a $60 magwell adapter. It would be a fun rig. Plus I keep the same controls for muscle memory.

Like I said, maybe 300blk upper and be done :laughing: but ammo is about 3x's as much.
 
My thought was if I can get a ~$300 5" barrel upper and a $60 magwell adapter. It would be a fun rig. Plus I keep the same controls for muscle memory.

Like I said, maybe 300blk upper and be done :laughing: but ammo is about 3x's as much.

well right now 9x19 ain't all that much cheaper than .223 so...

ETA: both seem to be around 35-40 cents, so fuck it, may as well blast .308 at 50 cents TULAMMO .308 WIN 150GR FMJ 500RDS STEEL CASE
 
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well right now 9x19 ain't all that much cheaper than .223 so...

ETA: both seem to be around 35-40 cents, so fuck it, may as well blast .308 at 50 cents TULAMMO .308 WIN 150GR FMJ 500RDS STEEL CASE

Locally I'm seeing $19/50 9mm or ~$14/20 556.

I looked up the 9mm conversion mags more and they do work with glock type uppers. You can get 3 for $75 here


As most know pmags are easily found for around $10 ea.

So ~$35 ea for mags that work, don't have to buy a magwell adapter or dedicated lower and you keep the same muscle memory of the 556 mags.
 
Older brother has a Ruger PC9. It’s been a fun gun, especially with the can on it.

His is set up for Glock mags. Hasn’t had any issues I’m aware of.
 
never buy ammo locally, man

Well ya, if you're buying 1k rnds, it's cheaper online. If you're picking up a few boxes, whatever savings gets eaten up by shipping.

Also, I guess I was looking at the wrong online stores. My buddy just mentioned Freedom munitions, which is only a few hours away, so shipping is cheap. Plus they have some killer prices when they're in stock :laughing:
 
I bought a CZ Scorpion carbine back in 2016 and it has been a great fuck around fun rifle. I added a driedchicken MRO, did a quickie trigger job, added HBI springs, and put around 4000 rounds through it. I just put in the Ascalon Arms drop in trigger(made in Brno) and wow, what a great trigger. Super fun gun!
 
How often are you shooting 33 rnd mags quickly though?

A lot. I shoot 1000 to 1200 rounds a month of 9mm. 90% of that is thru 33 round magazines.
 
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Way more than you. I shoot 1200 to 1500 rounds a month of 9mm. 90% of that is thru 33 round magazines.

:laughing:

Did I strike a nerve? :homer:

Nice edit :flipoff2:

It was a serious question, I'm no shooting expert. Seems like guns are worse than anything for things are either the best or the worst. I just don't like the angle of the glock mag ar9s, if I don't have glock mags already, I don't see the advantage.

Now if I had a 17 or 19, I totally get it.
 
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I'd think a 9mm carbine would be an excellent home defense gun. I mean that's literally what theyre designed for. Nice to not have the 5.56 going through multiple walls.

You also don't have to do all that. Slap a cheap red dot on there and party out. Mags are cheap too.

Controls feel good to me, I think ar controls are garbage. The cz mag release is a little weird, but there are extended versions that make it more mp5 like.



What's normal? It's $19/box here and the shelves are packed. I can't see it dropping much below that ever again.
Home defense was partly what I got it for, more due to muzzle blast and being able to operate it one handed than anything else. Fortunately in our house all the bedrooms are upstairs and the staircase forms a ”fatal funnel.”

The thing is still really damn loud without a can on though, and not all that quiet with one, and I realized I’m not a huge fan of having a suppressor not kept in the safe. Overall length is actually the same as my 8.5” .300 Blackout, though that has superior ballistics.

I don’t find the controls uncomfortable as much as unusual, literally nobody figures out that you pull down on the bolt release rather than slapping it. Fine at the range but not ideal under stress.

“Normal” 9mm pricing in 2019 was like $9-10/box, so yeah it’s double that now. I agree it’s not going away any time soon, but I can reload 5.56 for $0.25 a round.
 
New CZ scorpion with a host of upgrades. Going to be hard to not snag one of these.

The only problem with that is due to the slimmer design you are stuck with that gay fucking flash can. Unless you put a longer barrel you aren’t putting a silencer on it.
 
I'm probably going to catch shit for this :flipoff2:

But has anyone tried the brace kit deals for pistols?


I was thinking about doing a p80 G19 for the heck of it, this kit and a fe 33 round mags looks like it would be kinda fun. The video I watched the guys said they thought it was pretty gay untill they shot it and actually really liked worst case off it and still have a decent G19? :laughing:
 
I'm probably going to catch shit for this :flipoff2:

But has anyone tried the brace kit deals for pistols?


I was thinking about doing a p80 G19 for the heck of it, this kit and a fe 33 round mags looks like it would be kinda fun. The video I watched the guys said they thought it was pretty gay untill they shot it and actually really liked worst case off it and still have a decent G19? :laughing:
You mean soon to be sbrs?
 
I'm probably going to catch shit for this :flipoff2:

But has anyone tried the brace kit deals for pistols?


I was thinking about doing a p80 G19 for the heck of it, this kit and a fe 33 round mags looks like it would be kinda fun. The video I watched the guys said they thought it was pretty gay untill they shot it and actually really liked worst case off it and still have a decent G19? :laughing:

I have a buddy that has several versions of those. I fucking hate them in my mind, but have to admit, they are not bad to shoot
 
I'm probably going to catch shit for this :flipoff2:

But has anyone tried the brace kit deals for pistols?


I was thinking about doing a p80 G19 for the heck of it, this kit and a fe 33 round mags looks like it would be kinda fun. The video I watched the guys said they thought it was pretty gay untill they shot it and actually really liked worst case off it and still have a decent G19? :laughing:
Classic had them on sale for $80 a few months back I may know a guy that got one, it's the base model without the front grip/mag holder.

He hasn't even taken it out of the box, not much help.


I've had a passing fascination with the Mech Tech uppers for years. They're a lot more expensive than the last time I looked at them, I guess everything is. A Sub-2000 makes a lot more sense but I still think the Mech Tech is neat.

 
Those Glock chassis are gay as 3 guys fucking 2 dudes. The only one worth a fuck is the German Norlite USK-G.
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Classic had them on sale for $80 a few months back I may know a guy that got one, it's the base model without the front grip/mag holder.

He hasn't even taken it out of the box, not much help.


I've had a passing fascination with the Mech Tech uppers for years. They're a lot more expensive than the last time I looked at them, I guess everything is. A Sub-2000 makes a lot more sense but I still think the Mech Tech is neat.


Interesting, although I'd be more interested in something a lot shorter.

Those Glock chassis are gay as 3 guys fucking 2 dudes. The only one worth a fuck is the German Norlite USK-G.

I knew you'd like them :flipoff2:

I hate that the go to is a buffer style stock, seems like such a shortcut.
 
Interesting, although I'd be more interested in something a lot shorter.



I knew you'd like them :flipoff2:

I hate that the go to is a buffer style stock, seems like such a shortcut.
They just look goofy as fuck to me. If you want one get one. America is all about the freedom of choice. :flipoff2:
 
Have been seriously thinking about getting one for my glock 40.
6" barrel in 10mm with a brace in a compact package.
 
I dunno man, they gonna finally make that one stick?
Been fearmongering on it for a long while now.

of all the things that they are trying to make stick, that one is the most sticky. its really just a determination letter away from being "law". Like the shoe laces and the Akins Accelerator.
 
of all the things that they are trying to make stick, that one is the most sticky. its really just a determination letter away from being "law". Like the shoe laces and the Akins Accelerator.
I'd think even more so than bump stocks, since those were clearly not machine guns, but them shit's got banned.
 
The issue with braces is there's 40 million of them out in the wild. If they try to make that many people fellons there will be a massive shit storm.
They have really painted themselves into a corner on the brace issue. Congress needs to pull their heads out of their asses and remove sbrs from the NFL. But that won't happen so we get to play in braced lala land.
 
The issue with braces is there's 40 million of them out in the wild. If they try to make that many people fellons there will be a massive shit storm.
They have really painted themselves into a corner on the brace issue. Congress needs to pull their heads out of their asses and remove sbrs from the NFL. But that won't happen so we get to play in braced lala land.
Maybe, but probably not. There will be bellyaches but in the end the brace will be just another stock that people own. It won't be illegal, it'll just be a stock. Having the gun in that configuration will be illegal. The brace gets removed, and viola, it's still an AR pistol.

Using common sense and existing law prior to the first brace letter, it should have never been allowed. It completely muddied the waters
 
The government is losing the court battles on bump stocks.
If they try to declare braces stocks and turn 40 million guns into untaxed SBRs it's going to go to court.

Maybe this is how we get the NFA struck down for the infringment it is. If a braced pistol is an SBR then they never should have allowed them to be approved by tech branch. If tech branch was wrong then they sure as shit shouldn't have let this go on this long.
Bump stocks weren't owned by that many people Braces are owned by millions of people.
 
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