Anarchy, at what level is it a failure?

[stjames151]

Too deep for me. The few self professed anarchists I've met were pretty much jokes that would get smacked down hard if anarchy actually came to pass.

We dont look like much, but even my 5yo is dangerous. We practice chemistry, welding, and krav maga on the regular. Real anarchy is both rigorous, and industrious.

 

[Slander]

People are forgetting total anarchy isn't 100% self sufficient hunter gatherer, you would still have trade between people. Matter of fact in a 100% free market economy it would be easier and more efficient to trade and with lower costs.

Most people live their lives now in a way that aligns with "anarchy". If the only thing keeping you from beating evreyone you see senseless, murdering people on the regular and looting evrey store is the law then you are a sociopath who must be eliminated from society. I'm not savagely beating anyone who gets in my way now because I'm not an asshole, not because I could get in trouble etc...

 

[JR4X]

People are forgetting total anarchy isn't 100% self sufficient hunter gatherer, you would still have trade between people. Matter of fact in a 100% free market economy it would be easier and more efficient to trade and with lower costs.

Most people live their lives now in a way that aligns with "anarchy". If the only thing keeping you from beating evreyone you see senseless, murdering people on the regular and looting evrey store is the law then you are a sociopath who must be eliminated from society. I'm not savagely beating anyone who gets in my way now because I'm not an asshole, not because I could get in trouble etc...

The problem is that while humans have an unprecedented brain power. The animal brain in most still has no true perception of the future. The reason not to kill everyone you see right now is the likelihood of meeting them again for trade being advantageous to the future. Only the top monkeys think that far ahead. Most animals can’t think past their next meal. Humans are the kind of parasite that kill their host because we’re to stupid to be symbiotic.

 

[Slander]

The problem is that while humans have an unprecedented brain power. The animal brain in most still has no true perception of the future. The reason not to kill everyone you see right now is the likelihood of meeting them again for trade being advantageous to the future. Only the top monkeys think that far ahead. Most animals can’t think past their next meal. Humans are the kind of parasite that kill their host because we’re to stupid to be symbiotic.

For sure! Money and trade is the great peacemaker, take that away and you will have chaos and collapse. As much as people hate working for money and being in a capitalistic system, it's the best one we got for equality and peace if you think about it. You would have to replace that equalizer with another one, the only other one we have in the human toolkit is force and morals. Morals have mostly been thrown out the window with the decline of religion, we are currently barreling down the path of equality with force right now which is not good.

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[Provience]

People are forgetting total anarchy isn't 100% self sufficient hunter gatherer, you would still have trade between people. Matter of fact in a 100% free market economy it would be easier and more efficient to trade and with lower costs.

Most people live their lives now in a way that aligns with "anarchy". If the only thing keeping you from beating evreyone you see senseless, murdering people on the regular and looting evrey store is the law then you are a sociopath who must be eliminated from society. I'm not savagely beating anyone who gets in my way now because I'm not an asshole, not because I could get in trouble etc...

when a new lion takes over a pride, it kills off all the babies so that it can produce it's own offspring.

sort of like ghengis khan who killed whole villages to deprive them of their wealth and resistance as he expanded his empire.

without sufficient means of self-defense, we also lack self-respect. sure, you might not want to kill everybody, but there are certainly people who are only still alive because of the deterrent the larger structure and system of oppression creates.

 

[Slander]

when a new lion takes over a pride, it kills off all the babies so that it can produce it's own offspring.

sort of like ghengis khan who killed whole villages to deprive them of their wealth and resistance as he expanded his empire.

without sufficient means of self-defense, we also lack self-respect. sure, you might not want to kill everybody, but there are certainly people who are only still alive because of the deterrent the larger structure and system of oppression creates.

I agree that you need to be able to whoop some ass if need be! This is where the non aggression principal comes into play. If you aggress upon someone you are met with equal counter aggression.

​​​​Highly recommend you read Anatomy of the state.