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Affordable Metal Cutting Chop Saw & Notcher Recommendations…


That's what i have for metal cutting, along with multiple porta bands and grinders. This thing puts them all to shame, in both speed and accuracy. The only thing i don't like about it is the fence set screw is kind of fucked up, but i have a work around for it.
 

That's what i have for metal cutting, along with multiple porta bands and grinders. This thing puts them all to shame, in both speed and accuracy. The only thing i don't like about it is the fence set screw is kind of fucked up, but i have a work around for it.

I have yet to use or even see in person one of these run. It would probably change my mind about my band saw like my band saw did my abrasive wheel.
 
I have yet to use or even see in person one of these run. It would probably change my mind about my band saw like my band saw did my abrasive wheel.
It would:laughing:
I got it because i wanted more square cuts then i could get with my porta band. The first time i used it i was sold. Even the wonky fence set screw deal doesn't turn me off. It's only shitty when you do an angle cut, and it's easy to get around.
For the price, it's not much more then a red or yellow porta band, and a bunch cheaper then a horizontal band saw.
 
That TV-3 looks pretty sweet. Hadn't seen that one.

At the moment - chuckles in po man's tools.
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That's a lot of revolutions for some 2.25x.380 wall lower links! :lmao:
Would be. 1-5/8" .188 wall DOM for my Subaru. .118 wall is about the max depth it can do. Takes forever, but that cutter hasn't fussed about a dozen cuts in DOM yet. Kinda all I got for making clean cuts until I get a shop set up for tooling.
 
+1 on the portaband, have yellow one with swag table for making tabs and shapes. Have a wen horizontal that i use for tube and stuff. Definitely quieter and less messy than abrasive, the wen take a bigger blade than the portaband but they are more available now than the were
 
I have a milwaukee porta band it sucks. Tried using it this morning and said fuck that and grabbed a grinder with a cutoff wheel. Idk if I’m just buying shitty blades for it or what. It seems like it only cuts good a few times then it’s worthless.
the newer ones have adjustable blade guide rollers
mine doesn't, so you've gotta be really careful walking the blade around a tube in order to cut straight with it

oh and the first time the blade gets pinched it'll have a lump in it that'll make it cut like shit
 
I kinda like abrasive chop saws
they tolerate things falling outta the vise a lot better than the dry cut blades, and you can cut hard stock, and when you do fuck up a blade it is only a $7 consumable
 
It would:laughing:
I got it because i wanted more square cuts then i could get with my porta band. The first time i used it i was sold. Even the wonky fence set screw deal doesn't turn me off. It's only shitty when you do an angle cut, and it's easy to get around.
For the price, it's not much more then a red or yellow porta band, and a bunch cheaper then a horizontal band saw.

How is it with tubing? Round and square.
 

That's what i have for metal cutting, along with multiple porta bands and grinders. This thing puts them all to shame, in both speed and accuracy. The only thing i don't like about it is the fence set screw is kind of fucked up, but i have a work around for it.
I've owned one of the straight chop saws for a few years now as well. Think I'm on my 3rd blade now with well over 1,000 cuts. I have not been nice to mine either and it seems to still be holding up. They have a new version out that has a miter head on it.

Like you said, the work has to be held tightly but man is it fast and clean. I have the blade for Aluminum and the Stainless blade too and it makes a huge difference using those blades. I occasionally cut wood and PVC / EMT conduit with mine as well.

Man, they are proud of these new ones. I think I only paid like $375 for my straight cut version with the early lighter cast table.

Evolution S355MCS 14" Mitering Chop Saw / Heavy Duty / Metal Cutting
 
I've owned one of the straight chop saws for a few years now as well. Think I'm on my 3rd blade now with well over 1,000 cuts. I have not been nice to mine either and it seems to still be holding up. They have a new version out that has a miter head on it.

Like you said, the work has to be held tightly but man is it fast and clean. I have the blade for Aluminum and the Stainless blade too and it makes a huge difference using those blades. I occasionally cut wood and PVC / EMT conduit with mine as well.

Man, they are proud of these new ones. I think I only paid like $375 for my straight cut version with the early lighter cast table.

Evolution S355MCS 14" Mitering Chop Saw / Heavy Duty / Metal Cutting
That miter chop is pretty bad ass. Maybe eventually I'll spring for one, but the straight cut with angle- able fence is enough for me for now.
I'd rather put my money into one of the hd press breaks right now. After that i think I'm going for the rogue fab hd tube bender. That thing is fucking slick:smokin:
I have the Woodward fab tube bender with stand and 2 dies right now, but it struggles doing anything heavier then .120 wall and my shock hoops are .180 wall lol I've only done 2 so far and need to do 2 more. I've bent 2 pins and will likely bend at least 1 more getting the other hoops done...:laughing:
I'll be selling my bender to put towards the rogue...
 
That miter chop is pretty bad ass. Maybe eventually I'll spring for one, but the straight cut with angle- able fence is enough for me for now.
I'd rather put my money into one of the hd press breaks right now. After that i think I'm going for the rogue fab hd tube bender. That thing is fucking slick:smokin:
I have the Woodward fab tube bender with stand and 2 dies right now, but it struggles doing anything heavier then .120 wall and my shock hoops are .180 wall lol I've only done 2 so far and need to do 2 more. I've bent 2 pins and will likely bend at least 1 more getting the other hoops done...:laughing:
I'll be selling my bender to put towards the rogue...
JD2 Model 54 ftw if you want to bend thick stuff. This was 1.5" 1045 HR. Cut with the Evolution and bent into acorn table clamps.

The saw cut this easily for the sake of the purpose of this thread. Ohh, also when I do longer duration cuts, I use the "carbide wax" on the cut surface and touch off the blade to it before I start. Seems to help reduce the orange sparks and the blades last longer than advertised in my experience.


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JD2 Model 54 ftw if you want to bend thick stuff. This was 1.5" 1045 HR. Cut with the Evolution and bent into acorn table clamps.

The saw cut this easily for the sake of the purpose of this thread. Ohh, also when I do longer duration cuts, I use the "carbide wax" on the cut surface and touch off the blade to it before I start. Seems to help reduce the orange sparks and the blades last longer than advertised in my experience.


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:lmao:model 54 eh
Little pricey for the hobbyist.

I'll have to get some of the lube. Just ordered another blade for backup, so i should get that wax coming as well. :beer:
 
I don't like the wax, just hit the blade with some kerosene or wd40 every once in a while

or lemon scented pledge, that's wax in an aerosol can and works great for aluminum sawing...
 
I have both original Evolutin saws - the 14" straight "chop" saw and the 10" compound miter saw. Never really been impressed with either. The 12" has a weird "bump" about halfway through it's downward travel that seems to kick it out of square so I never really get decent cuts. The compound miter works ok on thinner stuff, but it's not super rigid and still doesn't give me super precise cuts.


I just ordered a $2k swivel head band saw so I'll post a comparison whenever it shows up. :laughing:
 
I spent a bunch of time setting up a bigass drill press with enough power to snap off 3/4" bits
The moment I got my big MT3 mag drill I have not used the big stationary drill press once. Small drill press that'll stall out with too much feed on a 3/8" bit yes, but not the big mammajamma.

The one thing I use my chop saw for now that I've got a 14" concrete saw? Exhaust tubing pie cuts. A table saw would actually be much better suited. Possibly a good band saw that'd cut straight, but the abrasive blade just seems to cut angles through tube that sit together FLAT better than anything else.

In both cases, the portability of bringing the saw to the work always seems to make a lot more of a difference than the slightly greater setup/layout time needed.
Which is to say, you might find that a death wheel in the angle grinder is still your preferred method after blowing a couple thousand on a nice saw.
 
I have both original Evolutin saws - the 14" straight "chop" saw and the 10" compound miter saw. Never really been impressed with either. The 12" has a weird "bump" about halfway through it's downward travel that seems to kick it out of square so I never really get decent cuts. The compound miter works ok on thinner stuff, but it's not super rigid and still doesn't give me super precise cuts.


I just ordered a $2k swivel head band saw so I'll post a comparison whenever it shows up. :laughing:
Has it done that from day one, or did it start doing it after a while?
Sucks to hear about the miter saw though, that's a lot of dough to not work very well...
I really wanted a horizontal band saw, but couldn't stomach the cost for a new, quality one, so the Evolution was my compromise. So far it has been good (enough) to me for my purposes.
 
I was reading the bad reviews on these cold cut saws and came across a unit that isn’t talked about much:

Fein Metal Slugger

Has anyone here ran this? It seems expensive but if it cuts correctly that’s worth the price of admission
 
So the Evolution saws aren't worth it? Or are they alright but not the best? I don't have $$ or space for a horizontal bandsaw.
 
Has it done that from day one, or did it start doing it after a while?
Sucks to hear about the miter saw though, that's a lot of dough to not work very well...
I really wanted a horizontal band saw, but couldn't stomach the cost for a new, quality one, so the Evolution was my compromise. So far it has been good (enough) to me for my purposes.

Right from the start. It was one of those things I bought and didn't really use right away so by the time I realized there was a problem, it was too late and too much of a headache to return it.


I really need to just take it apart and see what's binding in there. I'm sure it's something stupid and fixable.
 
So the Evolution saws aren't worth it? Or are they alright but not the best? I don't have $$ or space for a horizontal bandsaw.
Read all the bad reviews and you’ll note some consistency. I don’t see that as much with the Fein unit I posted but the review are like 10:1 favouring the Evo likely due to the price point entry level.

The negatives on the Evo are pointed out consistently in this review:

I bought the 14 Fein Slugger Dry Cut Metal Saw over 6 months ago. I bought this saw for my own shop at home, but I use an Evolution 14 saw at work. The Evolution is still 1000X better than any abrasive saw, but the Slugger blows it way out of the water! There is really no comparison between them. The Evolutions base is about as flat as a pretzel, its stamped, thin sheet steel with waves, peaks, low-points, and a super rough surface. You cant even put a square up the front edge to true the fence angle up to the blade. The angle gauge is completely useless and inaccurate, so if you need any amount of precision, youll have to dial it in every time through trial and error. Basically it’s a guessing game with the Evo. Beyond that, the work holding mechanism is not very rigid for several reasons. The first, most obvious one is just that the entire base is a flimsy, pretzeled up piece of sheet steel. Second, the vibration of the saw and workpiece arent too bad, but theres way more vibration and blade deflection & walking than the Slugger. The third only applies when trying to make a miter cut, as the movable jaw cant provide sufficient surface area or the proper balance of clamping forces to support the workpiece at any angle other than 90, so the workpiece moves, causing theangle to come out wrong every time. The Evolution blades cut much slower than the Slugger blades, they vibrate, walk, deflect, and dont maintain smooth cutting action like the Slugger blades do. The Slugger is a beast, weighing over 60lbs. The base is very flat and has a super smooth surface finish, as do the vise jaws…

Now I know don’t believe everything on the internet, but this other option has me intrigued and I hadn’t heard anything about it on the head to head reviews I was watching… I actually found out about it reading a Makita review
 
is the evosaw380 no longer a cast steel base?
Perhaps this review is comparing an older model but the rest of it seems pretty consistent of poor Vise clamping, miter inaccuracy.

Like I said I’ve been shopping myself because I need to unload my horizontal bandsaw due to lack of space.
 
Perhaps this review is comparing an older model but the rest of it seems pretty consistent of poor Vise clamping, miter inaccuracy.

Like I said I’ve been shopping myself because I need to unload my horizontal bandsaw due to lack of space.
I haven't had issue clamping with vise on miter cuts, you might need to reset after initial tightening, you just have to check before you cut. Not sure about the accuracy of the gauge. It cuts straight and true 90 every time so far though.
My biggest issue is the fence set screw not being able to tighten very well through angles, but it's easy to get around as I've mentioned before.
If i had the money i would go with the slugger, but i didn't know about it(and wouldn't have spent the cash anyway) so i have what i have. :laughing:
 
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