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The tippy toppy tall as fuck kawi was the WORST handling of all 3. You sir need to go back to 80s sport quad school

Honda's steering and suspension geometry was years ahead of the other 2.
I started on 3 wheelers so I know how to use the throttle and slide things. Tippy was never an issue on any quad.

Also, quads are gay, 3 wheelers are where it's at.
 
I started on 3 wheelers so I know how to use the throttle and slide things. Tippy was never an issue on any quad.

Also, quads are gay, 3 wheelers are where it's at.
I agree. I had a 70 like every 1980s kid did . Then went to a 110, then got into an fl350 Odyssey that I built for short course. Sold all that and got into trucks.

Now I'm back into 80s sport quads
 
I’ve wondered why Yamaha never put out a 250 class race quad they had the blaster and banshee before that the tri-z 250. Then later on came out with the yfz450r I had a 2005 and it ripped pretty good but definitely not the same as a 2 smoker.
 
Kinda like how Suzuki never put out a 250 race three wheeler. I think the lack of production rules in ATV racing was probably part of it.

It's funny now Yamaha is the only one building a race quad.
 
Kinda like how Suzuki never put out a 250 race three wheeler. I think the lack of production rules in ATV racing was probably part of it.

It's funny now Yamaha is the only one building a race quad.

I was casually looking at new Honda quads last week and noticed they don't sell any cool ones anymore. A TRX 250 is their "top model" in the sport line. WTF is that shit?
 
Everyone but Kawi cheesed out on the motors too. No PV on the Honda, piston port case Reed abortion on the susuki. At least on the Honda you could throw on a CR barrel and the giblets to make it work. Kawi also had slightly better shocks, still no where near what the MX bikes had quality wise.
 
I was casually looking at new Honda quads last week and noticed they don't sell any cool ones anymore. A TRX 250 is their "top model" in the sport line. WTF is that shit?
Side by sides took over the market from the sport quads in a lot of cases. Almost everyone I know that was big into sport quads has a golf cart now. My buddy just ditched his Raptor for a new RZR, just bought his kid an 800 for Christmas.

Other than Yamaha it seems they've all decided the definition of a sport quad is a slightly lighter big bore utility, shit like the Scrambler 1000XP, cool it's 90 horse, it also weighs almost as much as my Tecate and Rancher put together.
 
Side by sides took over the market from the sport quads in a lot of cases. Almost everyone I know that was big into sport quads has a golf cart now. My buddy just ditched his Raptor for a new RZR, just bought his kid an 800 for Christmas.

Other than Yamaha it seems they've all decided the definition of a sport quad is a slightly lighter big bore utility, shit like the Scrambler 1000XP, cool it's 90 horse, it's also 900 pounds.

I have the SxS but was thinking about getting a quad to use for a pit vehicle and to have something to fuck around with at the house that doesn't run on race fuel. I'm a Honda guy so figured Id look at what they have first. Boy was I disappointed...
 
Have any of you had a chance to ride a Suzuki lt-r450 from just a quick search the 2008 was the last year and had some upgrades more power not sure of the stuff that was improved on it had a short run. I may have picked one up but in 05 I had just bought my yfz450 almost went with a Honda but gave the Yamaha a shot ripped for 2 yrs then had to sell to buy my fist house.

I’ve been thinking of picking up another sport quad in the next few years I still have my Suzuki lt250r I pull it out every now and then for a quick rip thru my hood. I’m thinking a 450 four stroker for myself and putting my kid on the old quadracer when she’s ready still riding a pw50 and I follow or lead on my old alt 50 trike .
 
My buddy has a LT-R, he seems to really like it the little bit he gets to ride. If I was gonna buy a newer sport machine it'd be a Yamaha or Honda just for the better aftermarket. I'm too hard headed for that though, rebuilding an old 2 stroke bike is where it's at for me.
 
Ya that’s a solid point on the aftermarket Honda and Yamaha have always had more than kawi or Suzuki when it comes to sport quads. I’m a 2 stoke guy myself but always seem to think having a 4 thumper around would be cool.

I have a new neighbor behind me seems he inherited his uncle’s 400ex that needs a timing chain says he has a 440 kit for it not sure if he’s the type to dig into a engine he mentioned if I needed help wrenching give him a call as long as it’s not carbureted most of my fleet is 2 smokers and ya carbed lol.
 
Didn’t realize the Tecate 3’s were a wanted item. My dad has 2 84’s that he wants to get rid of.
 
Didn’t realize the Tecate 3’s were a wanted item. My dad has 2 84’s that he wants to get rid of.
I'd go with anything atv/atc race related will sell just have to price it for what it's going for in your area. Maybe throw up a add on here in the classified's
 
Didn’t realize the Tecate 3’s were a wanted item. My dad has 2 84’s that he wants to get rid of.
Three wheelers have gotten popular again. Market has softened up the past few months but he wouldn't have any problem selling them. For the right price I'd be happy to pay shipping for a non beater.
 
FedEx finally quit screwing around and delivered my green shrouds, threw those on and rebuilt the fuel petcock and scooted this thing around the property a bit. Still needs some jetting but it looks so much better without the mismatched plastic. Also need to figure out how guys used to put KX clutch baskets in these, can tell mine is real grooved up.

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Well, I just slipped and ordered a Lectron Billetron 38 for this thing, been wanting to try one on something and I've put so much into this bike already that it seems silly to keep fighting with a 35 year old PWK.
 
Lectrons are crap. They've been crap for 30 years. The only thing good about them is the marketing.

Lean in the midrange? To fucking bad, raise the needle and get a fat bottom and top.

Fat on top? Lower the needle and lean out everything else so that it responds like shit.

At least now they come with the power jet from the factory. That used to be the Dial-a-jet fix for them. Apparently the guys at Lectron figured out after 20 years that they needed them to make their shitty carbs semi tunable.
 
Guy at work runs an h series on his 250r and raves about it. They've got a 30 day money back guarantee so worst case I'm out an afternoon screwing with it
 
They make different metering rod grinds if you need to make adjustments for mid range tuning, your not just stuck with what it comes with.


I have 2 Lectrons on my Husky 177 and Beta 250.

The Husky had a Mukini that would never work from one day to the next, let alone morning vs afternoon with temp swings. Constantly chasing jetting on that pos. Swapped in the Lectron and after minor needle adjustment I have never had to touch it again save for a rod swap to accommodate the big bore/stroker upgrade.

It got consistently better fuel mileage after the swap as well. I bought that carb in '13.

The Beta had a PWK that was jetted pretty spot on, but got debris lodged in the passages and I got tired of trying to get it all out (would end up in the float bowl which would clog up the main jet and cause the needle to hang/throttle stuck open). Other than a float height adjustment, I didn't have to touch anything on that one.

I did have a fuel delivery issue recently on the Beta. It would act like it ran out of gas but then it would start pissing out the overflows as soon as I stopped. One of the floats had come off the lever and was mucking things up in there.

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A buddy had a YZ250F with a FCR carb that would never fucking work. Starting it was a chore with a dozen kicks required when cold, half a dozen if you just shut it off normally, and god forbid you ever dumped the bike over and it died. After putting the Lectron on it was a 1 or 2 kick bike no matter what. We did spend a few hours playing with the needle height on that bike though, mostly because we were misdiagnosing what was going.

I had one briefly on a Husky 610 but ended up selling that bike before I put much time on it.
 
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Lectron, Edelbrock, Blue magnum, all metering rod carbs are limited in tuneability. PWK's are superior in every way. The only thing better was the Keihin MJN carbs.
 
I’ve wanted to try a electron but the reviews have always been mixed . I put a new pwk airstricker on my CR5 2 seasons ago it came with a jd jetting kit which I was not to impressed with I used there cart and results where crap . I ordered up some jets close to what my original carb ran and a new needle from frank mx they have the real keihin jets and needles she runs much better.

I came real close to putting my old carb on but played the tuning game as we did back in the 90’s on the old triple sleds once there dialed they rip. It’s a trial and error deal what was the main reason for going with the electron was the original carb just pooched.
 
Lectrons seem to me to get mixed reviews because people buy them to try to solve running issues on their bikes.

A carburetor tuned by god himself doesn't cover random engine issues that people misdiagnose as carb problems. At least that's the experience my buddy and I had putting one on his CR250 that refuses to run right no matter what the fuck we do to it.

Meanwhile my 04 YZ250 is the only bike I've ever owned that I was successfully able to tune out pretty well. PWKs are awesome but I still had to fiddle fuck with it for hours to get it right.
 
Installed bdkw1's favorite carb today. Had to kinda cobble the throttle cable but it moved free so I felt ok taking it for a test rip. HOLY FUCK does this thing run hard now. I haven't tuned it other than setting the idle, which is a huge improvement, it actually idles now.

I neglected to get a larger pod filter to go with the larger carb inlet so I didn't ride it a ton. Started second kick and ran clean right off the bat, it doesn't pull off-idle like an off-road bike would but once it's got a little RPM it just takes off and runs right out the top no issue. Need to remember to bring a helmet for any further tuning, it's a little fast for the small test loop I've got to work with.

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Pod filters also suck. They create to much turbulence at the carb mouth. Putting them on a tube to move them back from the carbs helps make the jetting more stable.

Where's the head brace? Gonna crsck the lower mounts without it.
 
Nothing in the OEM parts book about an upper mount on these, doesn't appear to have ever had anything bolted up.

Pod filters suck but I can't run a shock that doesn't suck with the stock airbox that I also don't have.
 
Tried to spend a little time on this thing this weekend but I got called home early due to trouble at home. Got some Boyesen Pro Series reeds and tried to install them only to find that the last guy who was in there used RTV instead of a gasket on the reed block and got away with using shorter screws, even then they only had 1-2 threads on most. Didn't expect to need hardware so I didn't bring new bolts, will pack some over next weekend.

Did come home to my new Wicked Metal Designs pegs in the mail box though.
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Are boyesons alcohol safe now?

Back in my glamis hill shooter days a set of those would last a weekend running on alcohol and nitromethane.
 
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