Electric Dirt Bikes

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They finally showed up. Got 10 Surrons. Alibaba special.

I'm excited for the wife to get home and talk about that joke I made a few months ago about buying 10 bikes.

My son is gonna be HAPPY!

Surron Ultra Bee HP C3.

I will be trying to plate 1 in Wisconsin or Michigan.

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Roommate has an ultra bee, original battery wasn't enough to go the distance we would on the ICE bikes. He upgraded everything, it rips and has so much tunability now, new battery went like twice as far, but the battery has already failed so he's out couple thousand. Basically didn't maintain it, it discharged over winter in my garage and it never came back. Neat bike, weird to get used to not having a clutch and shifting though.
 
RusM said:
If you can plate one in you're state, or if the kids haven't ****ed it for you already that's a pretty good idea case for one
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I drive 22 miles to and from the office round trip. That would make for a nice cheap commute. I'm quite sure I could plate it as the county plates SXSs.

Hell, if it were faster, I'd plate and use the golf cart. :laughing:
 
My buddy and I bought 3 over the winter and immediatly sold them for a profit of about $1,000 each. When you buy in qty you get them even cheaper. I bought 6 and he bought 4. I am keeping 1 for sure, maybe 2. Then we'll see how many times I repeat this cycle. At qty of 10 they are about $4200 to my door. The lowest price listed locally on FBMP is $5700. I do expect the market to get flooded with these and different models to come out.
 
Toy4rnr said:
Roommate has an ultra bee, original battery wasn't enough to go the distance we would on the ICE bikes. He upgraded everything, it rips and has so much tunability now, new battery went like twice as far, but the battery has already failed so he's out couple thousand. Basically didn't maintain it, it discharged over winter in my garage and it never came back. Neat bike, weird to get used to not having a clutch and shifting though.
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I killed a Li-Ion in the same fashion, cold (but not below freezing) garage over winter. That type of battery was replaced as OEM by Aprilia in the following model year, I was too late for the "free" recall. I just replaced it with a lead acid with more capacity, and better cranking amps, after removing the padding for the Li-Ion it fitted right into the battery box, almost like they expected the plastic battery to fail.
 
Please keep thread updated OP

I rode a mate's Suron. Was very impressed, blew my 125 cc Motoped away in every department except range. Full throttle, messing around, hooligan mode - there was a noticeable drop in performance after about an hour. Sensible, half throttle 35 mph maybe two hours of riding, drop off in last 15 minutes.

My motoped holds enough fuel for 2.5 hours or more of acting like a hooligan, and about 125 miles of range if riding with restraint. Refueling takes 2 minutes from a fuel jug not 4.5 hours from a plug. So there is that. Similar performance specs all round to the Suron though, think I paid just under $3K in 2017-ish.

The electric motobikes I have looked at and ridden are all at least 2x what OP is going to retail these Suron's at. Locally all north of $5500.
 
XtremeJ said:
I killed a Li-Ion in the same fashion, cold (but not below freezing) garage over winter. That type of battery was replaced as OEM by Aprilia in the following model year, I was too late for the "free" recall. I just replaced it with a lead acid with more capacity, and better cranking amps, after removing the padding for the Li-Ion it fitted right into the battery box, almost like they expected the plastic battery to fail.
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Yeah I'm not sure what technology the battery was, probably Li-ion, but it was a super special and big battery, think it cost about $2800 :laughing:
 
These are pretty cool, electric bikes are fun to **** around with if they're tuned correctly. I've only ridden a 110 sized electric dirtbike that would run about 48mph but had plenty of torque, was a damn riot. Would love to have one but wouldn't get enough use out of it.
 
Youngest has been going on and on about getting that electric dirt bike he saw at Ace Hardware a couple years ago. Lowe's sells them and he immediately goes to them every time :laughing:. Eco something or other, they're called. They might be good, but I get the feeling that they're junk before long. $3k, too.


Surron has been very popular. Dunno if we'll go that route. I've told him we may just get a cheap frame and build it, but he's more the buy it rather than built it type.
 
JNHEscher said:
Youngest has been going on and on about getting that electric dirt bike he saw at Ace Hardware a couple years ago. Lowe's sells them and he immediately goes to them every time :laughing:. Eco something or other, they're called. They might be good, but I get the feeling that they're junk before long. $3k, too.


Surron has been very popular. Dunno if we'll go that route. I've told him we may just get a cheap frame and build it, but he's more the buy it rather than built it type.
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He prob just wants the same as what his buddies have so he's not the weird one with some home made cobbled ****. :flipoff2:

How hard would it be to find a 110 with a blown motor and retrofit it? Maybe cheaper to just buy one at that point though?
 
Ride update. I only have 5 acres here. On sport/turbo mode it is too fast for my yard and probably too fast for my 13 yo son. The good news is it has 100 different modes. Traction control is pretty awesome. With that and eco mode, it should be pretty safe. It's convincing the kid to stay out of certain modes that'll be the problem. It also has a wheeile mode that balances the bike for you and also prevents from looping out.

It's not crazy stupid fast like people say it is. I also have a KTM 450 so I know what fast is. But I could see where most people say its super fast. At slow speeds it'll get you in trouble just as fast as my 450, maybe faster because its soo easy to ride. It doesnt have the top end of the 450.
 
Rerock said:
He prob just wants the same as what his buddies have so he's not the weird one with some home made cobbled ****. :flipoff2:

How hard would it be to find a 110 with a blown motor and retrofit it? Maybe cheaper to just buy one at that point though?
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Dunno. Doesn't have any buddies with any.

We're not getting him a dirt bike anyway. Still building a couple go-karts. Youngest is very haphazardly. He's either gotta save up for years or we can slowly tinker on something.
 
JNHEscher said:
kids being on machines
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How about swing sets my kid has broken her right hand , her left wrist, and left collarbone bone the first two at our house last one at school. She’s wiped out her pw50 totally fine and the alt50 trike knock on wood no issues actually her favorite machine.
 
KrustyTJ said:
How about swing sets my kid has broken her right hand , her left wrist, and left collarbone bone the first two at our house last one at school. She’s wiped out her pw50 totally fine and the alt50 trike knock on wood no issues actually her favorite machine.
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True that.

We're often blown away that he hasn't broken anything yet. He's always the one that crashes and gets bloodied up.

Anyway - didn't mean to shut up OPs thread. Curious to see how the Surrons do. I'd like to sway our youngest to a Surron rather than the brand at the box stores.
 
my kids having been riding electric bikes almost since they could walk. started on the stacyc striders, now one is on a tuttio on the other smaller bike i cant remember the name. they have been awesome!!! i want a surron or a talaria bike for myself, but they are great for what they are.

batteries haven't been a big deal but i keep them up. the smaller bike after 3ish years i did buy a cheap battery for and its been good for 2yrs. its wasn't much$ but the big bikes batteries are a big cost. other than the one battery, i've replaced one chain and one throttle. they just work, and i dont need to start them and warm them up when them kids want to ride.

i'm finding, unless your riding allot, gas doesn't make much sense anymore. the carb cleaning adjusting, clutchs etc. its a chore. the electric stuff has been too easy.




yes we love the electrics, but my kids also race at the mxtrack everyweek. they ride a punched out xr50 and a ktm50 at the track. i see a handfull of kids with the big $ electric race bikes, guys running the genny charging between races.... i dont think they are worth it. they ride both around the house, track, and big riding areas. but, we take the electrics everywhere else especially 'yuppie' camping kids get their fix and nobody bats an eye, its great. i do know they wont get away with the electric bikes as they get older in some places but its been good.



i hated all ev's. but they have definatly grown on me. i just got the wife a model Y to replace her '16 tahoe, she wasn't pumped about the switch... but i couldn't ignore the math... brand new car with min down with charging is less than the gas bill on the tahoe!! that damn EV car is fast too! i do like it. we've only had it a little over a week put ~600mi (picked it up with 14mi on the odo last tuesday) on it so far and she find something that makes her like it more everyday. i dont care about the stupid running around she does anymore, that alone is worth it.


anyway, i've never met a person that regretted buying a Surron. i'm sure you'll do good and should get another 10 of them coming, maybe not so top end... the talaria x3 is what i've been looking at allot. bikes like that, starter bikes for many, i would think have a much bigger market.
 
tracyb said:
she find something that makes her like it more everyday. i dont care about the stupid running around she does anymore, that alone is worth it.
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I switched my wife over from a escalade ESV and now she only wants to drive the tesla. We pay .06 per Kwh here in UT. Makes the car cheap AF to operate. My commute is a 280 mile round trip and I can do that for less than $5. Derail over. 😆
 
tracyb said:
my kids having been riding electric bikes almost since they could walk. started on the stacyc striders, now one is on a tuttio on the other smaller bike i cant remember the name. they have been awesome!!! i want a surron or a talaria bike for myself, but they are great for what they are.

batteries haven't been a big deal but i keep them up. the smaller bike after 3ish years i did buy a cheap battery for and its been good for 2yrs. its wasn't much$ but the big bikes batteries are a big cost. other than the one battery, i've replaced one chain and one throttle. they just work, and i dont need to start them and warm them up when them kids want to ride.

i'm finding, unless your riding allot, gas doesn't make much sense anymore. the carb cleaning adjusting, clutchs etc. its a chore. the electric stuff has been too easy.




yes we love the electrics, but my kids also race at the mxtrack everyweek. they ride a punched out xr50 and a ktm50 at the track. i see a handfull of kids with the big $ electric race bikes, guys running the genny charging between races.... i dont think they are worth it. they ride both around the house, track, and big riding areas. but, we take the electrics everywhere else especially 'yuppie' camping kids get their fix and nobody bats an eye, its great. i do know they wont get away with the electric bikes as they get older in some places but its been good.



i hated all ev's. but they have definatly grown on me. i just got the wife a model Y to replace her '16 tahoe, she wasn't pumped about the switch... but i couldn't ignore the math... brand new car with min down with charging is less than the gas bill on the tahoe!! that damn EV car is fast too! i do like it. we've only had it a little over a week put ~600mi (picked it up with 14mi on the odo last tuesday) on it so far and she find something that makes her like it more everyday. i dont care about the stupid running around she does anymore, that alone is worth it.


anyway, i've never met a person that regretted buying a Surron. i'm sure you'll do good and should get another 10 of them coming, maybe not so top end... the talaria x3 is what i've been looking at allot. bikes like that, starter bikes for many, i would think have a much bigger market.
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Until better batteries come along electric is still a niche usage.

I rolled my bike out of the garage that I put away in September, hit the button, and it fired right up. The big bikes don't need constant clutches, top ends, or carb cleaning (if you use decent gas). All I did was check tire and suspension air pressure, and hit the trails.

I did hate the Jap bikes for the requirement of replacing everything with aftermarket if you wanted it to last. But, jumping on a Surron reminded me of a heavy downhill mountain bike. Not nearly on the same level as the 300s in my garage.
 
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