Interesting tools for sale.

[486] said:
no you can make money with them, it just doesn't come along often
plenty of call in repair work for strange internal splines
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Not that a shaper isn't absolutely the correct and superior tool for the job but I feel like that sort of **** is exactly what the Bridgeport shaping head is made for. The one day a year you gotta do one of those jobs you jobs you swing the turret around and when you're done you spin it back and enjoy having your shop space taken up by something you actually use the other 364 days of the year.
 
arse_sidewards said:
Not that a shaper isn't absolutely the correct and superior tool for the job but I feel like that sort of **** is exactly what the Bridgeport shaping head is made for. The one day a year you gotta do one of those jobs you jobs you swing the turret around and when you're done you spin it back and enjoy having your shop space taken up by something you actually use the other 364 days of the year.
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how much stroke does it have?
my induma doesn't have the ring on the other end of the ram
 
[486] said:
how much stroke does it have?
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IDK. Something that was large enough my brain filed it as "doesn't matter it's way more than enough for automotive ****" :laughing:


Edit: 4" stroke.

whats a bridgeport shaper do?

I see lots on ebay. Will it help me cut a square hole or cut angles on a peice of rail for me? Thanks
www.practicalmachinist.com
[486] said:
my induma doesn't have the ring on the other end of the ram
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:rainbow:
 
Local auction 2 weeks ago had 2 typical horizontal shapers and this sweet vertical one. Horizontals when for $380 & $500. The vertical went for $1100.
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They also had several old gear shapers that actually brought in some decent $$. I talked to the guy that bought this one for $5k and he said him and at least 2 other people were fighting over it. Nice to know that people are still buying and using this stuff.
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bgaidan said:
Local auction 2 weeks ago had 2 typical horizontal shapers and this sweet vertical one. Horizontals when for $380 & $500. The vertical went for $1100.
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A friend of mine bought one of the HZs... he said its pretty clapped out but he's the kind of guy like Keith Rucker who takes it down to bare bones and restores it back. I know him through the Steam Engine crowd that I do some machine work for.
 
I'd love a vertical shaper like that, but not more than I'd love to shove a horizontal mill in the same amount of space. :laughing:
 
arse_sidewards said:
Not that a shaper isn't absolutely the correct and superior tool for the job but I feel like that sort of **** is exactly what the Bridgeport shaping head is made for. The one day a year you gotta do one of those jobs you jobs you swing the turret around and when you're done you spin it back and enjoy having your shop space taken up by something you actually use the other 364 days of the year.
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arse_sidewards said:
IDK. Something that was large enough my brain filed it as "doesn't matter it's way more than enough for automotive ****" :laughing:


Edit: 4" stroke.

whats a bridgeport shaper do?

I see lots on ebay. Will it help me cut a square hole or cut angles on a peice of rail for me? Thanks
www.practicalmachinist.com

:rainbow:
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I've used mine once in the past 6 years... Everything else I've just cut with a broach because its mostly been keyways. I didn't even bother buying it its own VFD but rather just stole the leads off of a little 3 ph sander I had at the time.

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The little box on the back of the base holds the arduino for the TouchDro Bluetooth stuff.

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I'm the second owner of this shaper - it came from a very large heavy diesel, mostly marine, repair shop that bought it new eons ago. They said only one guy that worked there ever used it and nobody else was ever taught. When he retired the then started outsourcing all of their machine work. I was visiting a friend of mine there and saw it literally laying on the floor in a corner and asked if I could buy it. They did some research and were able to identify it and didn't like my original offer of scrap, then $50. lol. I think it ended up being about $400. I already had a bunch of the original HSS bits as they came with my M-Head when I bought it and the seller was like "these followed it here, so I guess they go with it".
 
Comparable table size and footprint to a Bridgeport but double the weight (so like 3500lb) and power on all 3 axis.

They're asking $1300 but it's a really ****ty listing, so i bet they'd take a lowball. :laughing:


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You can tell it's a 51 not a 53 or bigger because of the swoop at the top of the Z way.

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Gaston Dufour Milling Machines

Gaston Dufour Milling Machines<br>- made in France -
www.lathes.co.uk
 
That table would be awesome. Rotary table at one end, then a couple vises and still enough room to stick an axle shaft in a horizontal indexing head. You'd never have to un-bolt anything. :laughing:
 
arse_sidewards said:
That table would be awesome. Rotary table at one end, then a couple vises and still enough room to stick an axle shaft in a horizontal indexing head. You'd never have to un-bolt anything. :laughing:
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I almost bought it to scrap the machine and have an axle building stand in the shop. :laughing: I know that I would have been drawn and quartered here if I did it though. That wasn't the biggest on there either. That was a bit of a nutty sale.
 
bad zuki said:
I almost bought it to scrap the machine and have an axle building stand in the shop. :laughing: I know that I would have been drawn and quartered here if I did it though. That wasn't the biggest on there either. That was a bit of a nutty sale.
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I think a big I-beam would make a better axle building (and bending back into shape) stand. The first few axles will suck because you'll be making special tooling and stands and whatnot every time but after that it should be cake.
 
arse_sidewards said:
I think a big I-beam would make a better axle building (and bending back into shape) stand. The first few axles will suck because you'll be making special tooling and stands and whatnot every time but after that it should be cake.
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I bought something better in PA, I just need to pick it up. After going to my t slot table, I won't go back. I get the hype.
 
bgaidan said:
They also had several old gear shapers that actually brought in some decent $$. I talked to the guy that bought this one for $5k and he said him and at least 2 other people were fighting over it. Nice to know that people are still buying and using this stuff.
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Those are ****ing great machines. Hopefully it had all the change gears with it. There's a company in VT? that rebuilds them and put automatic way lube systems on them.
 
bgaidan said:
They also had several old gear shapers that actually brought in some decent $$. I talked to the guy that bought this one for $5k and he said him and at least 2 other people were fighting over it. Nice to know that people are still buying and using this stuff.
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I wonder if they've gotten rare enough that they go for over scrap without tooling
because it used to be common to buy them to get the tooling then scrap the machines
 
[486] said:
I wonder if they've gotten rare enough that they go for over scrap without tooling
because it used to be common to buy them to get the tooling then scrap the machines
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I know the place I used to work is actively looking for fellows #1 and 2's. During covid they started going back to domestic manufacturing due to delivery times and general hassles of dealing with China. They buried every gear shop in the KC area with work. They have added probably a dozen of those since 2020. They are buying hobs too.
 
1100 bucks and 19hrs to go for the hardinge. I sense a possible bidding war.
 
Thank god it's all the way in NJ or I'd be cancelling plans and trying to buy it. Kind of a shame since it really would be the perfect machine for me.

southjersey.craigslist.org

Lathe, Gap Bed, 12HP - tools - by owner - sale - craigslist

Elliot Concord lathe, 19 x 62, but with the gap removed it will swing almost 3 foot! Spindle has 3 1/4" through hole, so you could jam a side of beef down that thing. Has two chucks, 15" three jaw...
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arse_sidewards said:
Thank god it's all the way in NJ or I'd be cancelling plans and trying to buy it. Kind of a shame since it really would be the perfect machine for me.

southjersey.craigslist.org

Lathe, Gap Bed, 12HP - tools - by owner - sale - craigslist

Elliot Concord lathe, 19 x 62, but with the gap removed it will swing almost 3 foot! Spindle has 3 1/4" through hole, so you could jam a side of beef down that thing. Has two chucks, 15" three jaw...
southjersey.craigslist.org southjersey.craigslist.org


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Bristol is Pennsylvania, not New Jersey. But, close enough... :lmao:
 
arse_sidewards said:
Thank god it's all the way in NJ or I'd be cancelling plans and trying to buy it. Kind of a shame since it really would be the perfect machine for me.

southjersey.craigslist.org

Lathe, Gap Bed, 12HP - tools - by owner - sale - craigslist

Elliot Concord lathe, 19 x 62, but with the gap removed it will swing almost 3 foot! Spindle has 3 1/4" through hole, so you could jam a side of beef down that thing. Has two chucks, 15" three jaw...
southjersey.craigslist.org southjersey.craigslist.org
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Why are you not getting that? That's exactly what you need.
 
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