77 F150 4x4 SWB Budget build?

Shes a little rough
Cleaned the rest of parts out

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Went with the budget enginetech 204/214 melling copy and got this :lmao:

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Been working on a port or two here and there

Got 3 cyl to go

Then clean up the heads and valve lap

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Sent my oem cam off to Crower for a re-grind, allegedly will take about 7-10 business days. I'm told industry wide ford cam cores arent coming till end of year, November / Decemberish...

Went for 213/227 @ .050
271/287 advertised
.510/.536

112* lsa
 
Levigarrett76 said:
Sent my oem cam off to Crower for a re-grind, allegedly will take about 7-10 business days. I'm told industry wide ford cam cores arent coming till end of year, November / Decemberish...

Went for 213/227 @ .050
271/287 advertised
.510/.536

112* lsa
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Is that going to be a weld up - grind down - re-harden - polish - return to sender?

So as to build it up bigger than what you had?
 
JR4X said:
Is that going to be a weld up - grind down - re-harden - polish - return to sender?

So as to build it up bigger than what you had?
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Will find out when they look at it and decide from there. Should be in thursday



One cylinder left :homer::homer:

This is before sanding

Go figure getting better at it, kind of have a procedure down. This is that cylinder that feeds the exhaust crossover so back side of the bowl is open

Intake takes no time.

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How many hours did it take to port the heads? How many hours total into them?

That cam seems perfect. Just don't **** it up on break in. Use actual break in oil. Use Gibbs/Driven assembly lube.
 
rattle_snake said:
How many hours did it take to port the heads? How many hours total into them?

That cam seems perfect. Just don't **** it up on break in. Use actual break in oil. Use Gibbs/Driven assembly lube.
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I did it an hour or two at a time, If I had to guess 10-12? about 1.5 hrs per cylinder maybe? Got faster as I went.


Ive still got to finish cleaning the valves with wire wheel in the first head i ported then lap em in.
Im tempted to go back through the first head i ported and clean up ports similar to the last few ports I did.


Thanks for the tip on the gibbs/driven, will get some on the way. Def not gonna **** around on break in....I wiped a comp 218/226 in a 460 back in 01 and that sucked.
Handling other projects around house right now, hoping to get to it soon.
 
Even after break in, use an oil that is good for flat tappet cams, like VR1.
 
I thought the trick was to just run winter weight diesel oil in old flat lifter engines? Similar amounts of zinc, just way cheaper than specialty high zinc or racing oils :confused:

10W30 Valvoline VR1 Conventional Racing Oil (silver bottle) = 103,505 psi
zinc = 1472 ppm
phos = 1544 ppm
ZDDP = 1500 ppm

15W40 CHEVRON DELO 400LE Diesel Oil, conventional, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CH-4, CF-4,CF/SM, = 73,520 psi
zinc = 1519 ppm
phos = 1139 ppm
ZDDP = 1300 ppm

15W40 MOBIL DELVAC 1300 SUPER Diesel Oil conventional, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4/SM, SL = 73,300 psi
zinc = 1297 ppm
phos = 1944 ppm
ZDDP = 1600 ppm

15W40 “NEW” SHELL ROTELLA T Diesel Oil conventional, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CH-4, CF-4,CF/SM = 72,022 psi
zinc = 1454 ppm
phos = 1062 ppm
ZDDP = 1200 ppm

Really, how much zinc you need comes down to how much valve spring pressure you are running and how aggressive your cam is. I have been running my 2.8L since the first fire up after a stock rebuild on just standard synthetic that you get from Walmart for $20-25 per 5 qt jug (I didn't know any better about flat lifter engines back then :laughing:). It is still going strong, er, as strong as a stock 2.8L can :homer:

For reference (First column is zinc, second is phosphorus):
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'84 Bronco II said:
I thought the trick was to just run winter weight diesel oil in old flat lifter engines? Similar amounts of zinc, just way cheaper than specialty high zinc or racing oils :confused:

10W30 Valvoline VR1 Conventional Racing Oil (silver bottle) = 103,505 psi
zinc = 1472 ppm
phos = 1544 ppm
ZDDP = 1500 ppm

15W40 CHEVRON DELO 400LE Diesel Oil, conventional, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CH-4, CF-4,CF/SM, = 73,520 psi
zinc = 1519 ppm
phos = 1139 ppm
ZDDP = 1300 ppm

15W40 MOBIL DELVAC 1300 SUPER Diesel Oil conventional, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4/SM, SL = 73,300 psi
zinc = 1297 ppm
phos = 1944 ppm
ZDDP = 1600 ppm

15W40 “NEW” SHELL ROTELLA T Diesel Oil conventional, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CH-4, CF-4,CF/SM = 72,022 psi
zinc = 1454 ppm
phos = 1062 ppm
ZDDP = 1200 ppm

Really, how much zinc you need comes down to how much valve spring pressure you are running and how aggressive your cam is. I have been running my 2.8L since the first fire up after a stock rebuild on just standard synthetic that you get from Walmart for $20-25 per 5 qt jug (I didn't know any better about flat lifter engines back then :laughing:). It is still going strong, er, as strong as a stock 2.8L can :homer:

For reference (First column is zinc, second is phosphorus):
Screenshot 2024-07-04 104611.png
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Thx for sharing
I always have just ran whatever 15-40 diesel oil in my flat tappet gassers, also run in my 5.7 with rollers

From that data Seems like ill be just as well off with it
 
Believe mine are D3. Sort of want the pig on a lip stick approach but wouldn’t complain if older heads or aluminum became available to me.
 
WiscoF100 said:
Believe mine are D3. Sort of want the pig on a lip stick approach but wouldn’t complain if older heads or aluminum became available to me.
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What is your big block? I think you get the best quench and pump gas friendly compression with larger chamber d3's and flat tops zero decked
 
Think it’s also D3. Have to check when I get home. Not sure which deck height it is yet
 
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