2.5 car garage fix up

[Tryloff]

I got sick of looking at the disorganization in my attached garage and the overflow of house stuff into my shop, so it's time to do something about it.

The first project was to remove a window ac unit that was built into the wall between house and garage. That was pretty easy. I removed the outlet from the wall and pulled the wiring up to the attic. The circuit was added onto a different wire so I just removed the wire altogether at the box where it was split at. I'm glad I did too, they used 14 gauge wiring for the 30a unit and breaker!
I didn't take any before pictures because I'm a dope. But here's right after that was all patched up:

next was remove all of the old coax, hose reel, and hide a wire from the basement light switch to the lights. For some reason instead of running that in the wall they just punched through and let it hang on the garage side? Hacks.

Spckle and paint time. The previous owner smoked out here and detailed cars out here. That's why the wall is so stained. I didn't know how bad it was until I put the first coat of paint on it and the paper started peeling off. I know the right fix is to rip the drywall off and redo it, but that's my last resort. I hate drywall. I'm probably going to try to peel the loose paper off and see what happens. My plan is to put cabinets on the bottom along the whole wall and build a structure to hold plastic totes up top, so it will be covered and doesn't have to be perfect.

And that's where I've gotten yesterday and today.

 

[posford]

In! I love the huge shop builds on here, but the smaller garage threads are always good for inspiration for my home garage

 

[Tryloff]

In! I love the huge shop builds on here, but the smaller garage threads are always good for inspiration for my home garage

I have the 40x60 that I'll get around to some day. Right now it's just storage. I'm hoping that doing this garage will let me move enough stuff out of there to motivate me to get that done! Wife says kitchen comes first though, which is a reasonable request.

 

[Gdogg]

Organization is an on going battle, it never stops.

 

[McBastard79]

In for ideas to improve my mess of a garage

 

[SomeGuy]

If the paper is peeling, don't bother trying to paint over it...the paper is what holds the gypsum in, it'll fall apart in no time without it. It's a PITA but just do it right now, because it's even worse to do it later.

Also, highly approve of mudding/painting drywall in the garage, it makes it so much cleaner and brighter.

In! I love the huge shop builds on here, but the smaller garage threads are always good for inspiration for my home garage

In for ideas to improve my mess of a garage

You guys have seen my little garage tour eh?

 

[Tryloff]

If the paper is peeling, don't bother trying to paint over it...the paper is what holds the gypsum in,

What happens if I peel the paper off, mud over the guts, and then paint?

 

[SomeGuy]

What happens if I peel the paper off, mud over the guts, and then paint?

If you're through to gypsum then re-drywall...if it's just that top layer and still has the brown paper under it, then mud/paint can be fine.

 

[Tryloff]

There's brown paper underneath, so I guess I'm good. You can hardly tell when the paint dries and the gloss is gone. I'm going to say heck woth it and leave it as is. It will be covered with cabinets. After all, what kind of home owner would I be if I didn't give the next owner something to cus me about.

 

[arse_sidewards]

If the paper is peeling, don't bother trying to paint over it...the paper is what holds the gypsum in, it'll fall apart in no time without it. It's a PITA but just do it right now, because it's even worse to do it later.

I would use it as an excuse to just slap up another layer of drywall. Can't go wrong with more sound deadening.

 

[Muckin_Slusher]

So the A/C unit cooled the house by hotting up the garage?
That's kind of silly.

 

[Muckin_Slusher]

If the paper is peeling, don't bother trying to paint over it...the paper is what holds the gypsum in, it'll fall apart in no time without it. It's a PITA but just do it right now, because it's even worse to do it later.

Also, highly approve of mudding/painting drywall in the garage, it makes it so much cleaner and brighter.





You guys have seen my little garage tour eh?

Stop swinging the goddam camera around!

 

[Tryloff]

So the A/C unit cooled the house by hotting up the garage?
That's kind of silly.

Yeah man. Unfortunately it wasn't the silliest thing in this house. I'm slowly fixing up all of the reasons why this place was so cheap to buy.

 

[posford]

If the paper is peeling, don't bother trying to paint over it...the paper is what holds the gypsum in, it'll fall apart in no time without it. It's a PITA but just do it right now, because it's even worse to do it later.

Also, highly approve of mudding/painting drywall in the garage, it makes it so much cleaner and brighter.





You guys have seen my little garage tour eh?

Nice vid, place needs a basketball hoop

I get that its quiet with the air compressor in the basement, but doesn't everyone else have to hear the compressor now?

Seeing that makes me want to purge more **** but the hoarder in me can't

 

[arse_sidewards]

I get that its quiet with the air compressor in the basement, but doesn't everyone else have to hear the compressor now?

I've always wanted to bury a telecom manhole and shove an upright compressor in there and just run conduit for power and air. Gravel floor and auto-drain on the tank.

Should be nice and quiet and if the tank ever goes the only damage should whatever the manhole cover hits on the way back down.

 

[posford]

Stop swinging the goddam camera around!

Oh and this, video gave me a ****in headache from the fisheye and swinging the camera around

 

[SomeGuy]

Stop swinging the goddam camera around!

Oh and this, video gave me a ****in headache from the fisheye and swinging the camera around

LoL noted...more jump cuts then?

Nice vid, place needs a basketball hoop

I get that its quiet with the air compressor in the basement, but doesn't everyone else have to hear the compressor now?

Seeing that makes me want to purge more **** but the hoarder in me can't

Just my wife if she's home but it's not too bad on the main floor and you can barely hear it upstairs, has never been an issue this way and I'm adding more sound deadening as I finish the basement so it'll be even less.

 

[posford]

LoL noted...more jump cuts then?



Just my wife if she's home but it's not too bad on the main floor and you can barely hear it upstairs, has never been an issue this way and I'm adding more sound deadening as I finish the basement so it'll be even less.

Panning around is one thing, there was a few moments of camera waving (think by the back cabinet area) that was a bit much

 

[GLTHFJ60]

I'm here for it. I'm all about optimizing small work spaces.

For the drywall, don't rip the loose paper off. Pull it open, slap some mud between the paper and gypsum, then smooth the paper back flat with a trowel. That should get it to stick again, and it'll be easier to smooth than filling paper gaps.

 

[rockota]

I would use it as an excuse to just slap up another layer of drywall. Can't go wrong with more sound deadening.

yup. could even do 3/8"...

 

[Tryloff]

Call me lazy if you want, but I'm either going to ignore it or have my neighbor take care of it. He's a professional painter and I happened to run into him at the chiropractor today. He's going to swing by tomorrow and let me know what he thinks. I'll update the peanut gallery.

 

[Tryloff]

I guess I never posted a picture of the rest of the garage. So here it is:

Neighbor told me to ignore it or use osb like the rest or the garage. And told me to use metal for the ceiling. So, that's the plan.

 

[SomeGuy]

Joining walls typically require drywall by code for fire purposes, I would not remove and replace any joining walls with osb.

 

[Tryloff]

Joining walls typically require drywall by code for fire purposes, I would not remove and replace any joining walls with osb.

Well shoot, I hadn't thought of that. Even if theirs drywall under the osb?

I guess plan b is white metal like the ceiling will be. Unless that's against code too?

 

[Squamch]

Well shoot, I hadn't thought of that. Even if theirs drywall under the osb?

I guess plan b is white metal like the ceiling will be. Unless that's against code too?

Just look up your local code. Adding osb over the fire rated board will be fine, I would imagine.

Metal sounds awful. Why do you want metal on the ceiling?

 

[Tryloff]

That's the way my shop is? I won't have to paint it or dry wall or joint compound or anything. And I can screw the finished product over the insulation board that's already there.

 

[Tryloff]

The garage shall be separated from the residence and its attic area by not less than 1/2-inch (12.7 mm) gypsum board applied to the garage side

There's what code says.

 

[SomeGuy]

The garage shall be separated from the residence and its attic area by not less than 1/2-inch (12.7 mm) gypsum board applied to the garage side

There's what code says.

Yup, so 1/2" drywall then osb on top should be fine...it's the center layer of gypsum that gives you the fire rating.

Some places also call for 5/8" type-x drywall if it's over a certain size garage or if there's multi-dwelling (apartment) space, just something to be aware of.

 

[Tryloff]

It's 2 steps forward, 1 step back with this garage.

I replaced the outside outlet. I was already planning on doing it, but I'm glad I did. The old outlet had the wires going into the push in slots. The black wire was loose and had burn marks on it. So that's pretty cool. I recounted the box because it was loose and a little misaligned with the hole in the wall. The wires were pretty tight in the box but I ignored it the best I could. I had just enough wire to make it work and poke the wires up through the top board to keep them behind the wall.

I starred tearing the old insulation out from the NE corner working S from there. I found a random wire tucked behind the insulation and needed to extend a 12/3 wire for the two way switch by about 6 inches so I could tuck the wire. I chose violence and ripped down one of the sheets og 1/2 inch insulation that's stapled to the ceiling and boy howdy was it a mess up there. Where the power comes into the garage looks like a tangled mess of wire nuts and tape. Plus the open splices stapled to the rafters..

So off to lowes I go because I don't have any 12/3 in my hoard.

 

[Tryloff]

Wiring is done to the switch and the rafter wire splice is in a box. If I had known about that earlier, I would have replaced the wire from the box to the outside outlet. That boy is tight!

I ripped down the old insulation over the garage door. It was pretty loose and was exposed anyways.. I've been spray foaming around the seams and in any gaps I see. Also been putting it behind the outlet boxes where it's hard to get the fiberglass batts. I think I can finish insulating and start plywooding tomorrow. Then this wall is done.