Operation: Slug Nutz

[Poopyota]

I started a “New” project and thought it was a good time to get a build thread going. I actually started this build in 2017. It was going to be a basic bobbed bed and dove nosed Toyota with all Toyota stuff. The build was cut short, I wanted to wheel and found a Toyota I could just bolt all my parts into to get back on the trail. Now that all of my parts are in a trail rig this build started to get more interesting.

 

[Poopyota]

Here are a couple photos of it sitting on Toyota axles so you can see where it was going

 

[Poopyota]

So fast forward, after many conversations with a one of my good buddies that’s helping me build the truck. We decided junkyard steering 14Bolts in a poop yota would be pretty fun! So how do you do it on the cheap? Dana 50’s don’t really have any value but have 60 outers. Is the 05+ SD stuff better? Probably but it’s going up in price as well, this build is supposed to be outside of the box and on the cheap so let’s see what happens! My buddy had a Dana 50 laying around and I had a 14Bolt from a project that never happened so the hunt was on for another Dana 50 and 14 Bolt

 

[Poopyota]

I found another Dana 50 on FB market place for $150 and a 14Bolt from a friend for $300 that was geared 5.38 and had a shave on it.

 

[Poopyota]

Two chopped Dana 50’s later I had my outers

 

[Poopyota]

Threw the inner C’s and knuckles in the sandblaster. Then burned in the Steering arms

 

[Poopyota]

Then it came to taking some measurements and chopping up the 14 Bolts. We wanted to make the axles as wide as possible. We didn’t want to retube the housings. What we decided is for the front, the piece of tube that we cut off off the passenger side we would machine a sleeve for the inside and press it in, plug weld it and weld the seam. I’m theory we thought if we cut the spindles off in the same place on both axles and reused the cut off from the front for the driver side, both axles should have the same amount of tube. Which in finished form should have the same WMS. As it turns out there are variations in 14 Bolts, the one we chose for the front had welded on spindles and the one we chose for the rear had friction welded spindles. The friction weld was really large on the inside and would interfere with the axle shafts. We ended up having to cut off an additional 1/2” per side to remove the friction weld.

 

[ShitBoxSam]

i like where this is goin!

 

[Poopyota]

Next step was to machine the inner C’s to press onto the 14 Bolts. The Dana 50’s use a larger tube than the 14 Bolts. When I cut the C’s off I left enough tube to chuck it into the lathe. We used a boring bar and went deeper than the part of the C that we were using. After all of the machining, we cut the remainder of the tube off and left part of the weld that is holding the thin sleeve that was the original axle tube.

 

[Poopyota]

i like where this is goin!

Thanks man

 

[Poopyota]

To machine the C’s and the sleeve we stamped all of the C’s and housings. Then made a story board. All of the tubes had slight variation’s especially the front housing. The tubes weren’t quite round.

 

[RunningProblem]

Plans to run 14 bolt gears in reverse up front?

 

[YotaAtieToo]

Plans to run 14 bolt gears in reverse up front?

Wat?

 

[RunningProblem]

Wat?

Won’t 14 bolt gears up front need to be going the opposite direction for a passenger drop front axle?

 

[YotaAtieToo]

Won’t 14 bolt gears up front need to be going the opposite direction for a passenger drop front axle?

Again, Wat?

No, nothing changes.

Just like how a Toyota 3rd works the same weather it's in the rear or front.

 

[McBastard79]

Man, this is dope!

 

[RunningProblem]

Again, Wat?

No, nothing changes.

Just like how a Toyota 3rd works the same weather it's in the rear or front.

I r dumb.

 

[Poopyota]

Man, this is dope!

Thanks man!

 

[Poopyota]

Next step was to set the pinion angles and caster. Then press the C’s on

 

[YotaAtieToo]

Might want to get that front under the truck before final welding, looks like the driveshaft will be eating the oil pan.

 

[Poopyota]

Might want to get that front under the truck before final welding, looks like the driveshaft will be eating the oil pan.

Thanks for the input! The axle is in the mock up stage with just heavy tacs currently. The photo of the axle might be a little deceiving, the axle is pretty wide. It might look like the diff is pretty far over but I think it’s the longer than normal short side tube that makes it look that way. The WMS is 73”. I’m trying to post the build in order, I haven’t posted much on what’s done to the truck yet, but I’m not running a conventional Toyota front spring setup and my motor isn’t in the factory location. Here is a photo of the oil pan circled in red with the axle under the truck

 

[YotaAtieToo]

Gotcha, wider wms definitely makes it deceiving.

Awesome that you're doing 4ws 14 bolts on leaf springs BTW

 

[Opiebennett]

My buggy is 74" outside of tire!

 

[chaplinfj60]

this is fucking back ass on so many levels. this is the ignorance of me coming out, i know the 14 uses the same size of shaft but different spline count than dana 60, is this a simple custom axle shaft order from dutchman or something? or is there some more magic?

 

[YotaAtieToo]

this is fucking back ass on so many levels. this is the ignorance of me coming out, i know the 14 uses the same size of shaft but different spline count than dana 60, is this a simple custom axle shaft order from dutchman or something? or is there some more magic?

14b is a hair bigger, so yes, custom order.

 

[chaplinfj60]

still dam cool axle

 

[Poopyota]

Gotcha, wider wms definitely makes it deceiving.

Awesome that you're doing 4ws 14 bolts on leaf springs BTW

Thanks man This thing is going to be all business not really any bling parts in this build

 

[Poopyota]

this is fucking back ass on so many levels. this is the ignorance of me coming out, i know the 14 uses the same size of shaft but different spline count than dana 60, is this a simple custom axle shaft order from dutchman or something? or is there some more magic?

Yes, custom axles from Branik. These are just Dana 60 blanks with 14 Bolt 30 spline and he sells 35 spline 99-04 stub shafts with a puck to mate to the unit bearing.

 

[chaplinfj60]

wow is all i got this is so cool. for the rear, are centered or off set?

 

[Poopyota]

wow is all i got this is so cool. for the rear, are centered or off set?

Thanks man! The pinion is in the center, so there is a long side and a short side axle shaft.