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    Winch wiring & contactor

    Some time ago i picked up this thing


    Emailed Warn with the p/n & serial #, and its the M12000 Warn that comes on the Dodge Power Wagon. Ran thru some parts lists, and apparently it is actually their 15k winch, with the only real difference being that the cable spools off the top of the drum instead of the bottom. For the contactor they advised me to use p/n 83664. This one. From doing some searching, it seems like its used on all sorts of winches, from 8k to 15k. At that point, i cant help but assume i can use pretty much any contactor to power this thing with minimal issues. Im not above buying the contactor from Warn, but theyre pretty proud of their parts. So i was wondering what everyone else is using? Theres so many knock-off contactors out there, and theyre all in the $40-80 range. Appealing price, esp considering the Warn one is over $200, but its no good if it fails the first time i really need it to run.
    88 bronco // 96 bronco // 96 f250

    #2
    That is a series wound motor, so if you don't want to spend for the contactor, keep in mind that it will take 4 constant duty solenoids to make it work otherwise. My Braden worm drive is powered by 4 solenoids off a Warn Power Wagon winch.



    This is a pic of my test wiring to make sure it was done right and that my homemade buss bars would work, but you get the idea of what a pain in the ass it is:

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      #3
      No i def want to stay with a reversing contactor, its just that Warn sells theirs for $250-275, which seems a bit excessive considering pretty much every other brand out there is under $100. I was leaning towards Albright or Runva since they seem to have good reviews (from my searching im pretty sure Warn uses the Albright DC88 anyway) but was just curious what brands people have used, to see if theres anything i should stay away from. Leaning towards the Runva since its easy to get, and they use it on their own winch line.
      88 bronco // 96 bronco // 96 f250

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        #4
        I buy mine from canadawinch.com. $89 Canadian. Those are Runvas. Tons of guys around here running them.

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          #5
          I did what you did with 4 relays, seemed like every time I needed the winch one relay had failed.

          I bought this.
          https://www.grainger.com/product/BUY...d=orderHistory

          They were for motorhomes and campers with slide outs. I thought I would burn through them like crazy so I bought 2. Take up a lot less space, easy to wire.

          So far I have not burnt up the first one, I have had some long heavy pulls.

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            #6
            I ended up buying the Runva contactor, just came in the mail yesterday. Now i just gotta mount it under the hood and run some wires!
            88 bronco // 96 bronco // 96 f250

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              #7
              I'm bumping this because either I'm over thinking it, or I'm dumb. Probably dumb. Anyways. I'm ready to wire my contactor to the winch. One pin on the contactor goes to A, the other 2 to F1 & F2. What is this little plug hanging down for?
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              Also this motor doesn't have a ground stud so I'm guessing I should just ground to a bolt on the motor's end cap? I was going to run 2/0 gauge cable for everything because I already have it, but it seems to me it'll be pretty awkward to get a cable that big onto a motor bolt.

              88 bronco // 96 bronco // 96 f250

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                #8
                Confirmed: I'm dumb. It's not a stud, it's a threaded hole. Found it with an inspection mirror. So now I'm trying to shoehorn a bolt into the space between the motor and the winch. But that makes a ton more sense.

                I'm still not sure what that little plug is for though, or if I even need to connect anything to it.
                88 bronco // 96 bronco // 96 f250

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                  #9
                  That plug is the thermometric thing on Ti winches, maybe the power wagon M12000 got that option. I don't think warn has it on anything but the 9.5 and 16.5.
                  Last edited by AK_F250; 2 weeks ago.

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                    #10
                    Turns out youre right. Found a thread on Power Wagon Registry that confirmed it. Dodge wanted the Ti, and the LVI (low voltage interrupt) so Warn put both on. Its still a 4.6 HP motor, just with a p/n unique to the PW version of the M12000. So ill just tuck it up out of the way where its safe, and not worry about it.
                    88 bronco // 96 bronco // 96 f250

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