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why does webdesign continually get worse and worse?

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used to be every site had plain text and links and shit
now everything is its own animated element and nothing is plaintext
meaning the formatting is always TREMENDOUSLY fucked up unless you're on whatever browser the developer used
my bank site is just about fucking unusable, I've got to use the adblock element hiding feature to get rid of shit that it wants to draw over the entire screen and a few of the toolbars, you don't get to scroll the screen, you need to scroll an element inside the window inside the browser window, open a new tab and it logs you out

on here, hit the back button (or toss a different page number in the URL bar) and it reloads the same page you were on. To change pages you need to hit the little animated fucking button so it'll script you a new page in the same page or some stupid shit

Fuck technology. Fuck marketing. Give me the early 2000s back.
 
Local radio station has an app that they use to publish articles, weather, traffic reports, etc. They didn't make it, it's the same one a shitload of media outlets use, but half the time on a mobile device it pops up so many things that whatever you were trying to read just gets buried. Or you're left with a reading window of maybe a few lines of text because an ad popped up and the 'x' is either invisible or so tiny it's impossible to hit without clicking through to the ad.

I like the station a lot, and the articles and reports are usually useful and worth reading, but the app makes the experience miserable.

Reminds me of this from Ready Player One:

 
Also, sites that immediately play unsolicited video or audio. If I go to a news story to read it, that's what I'd like to do...I don't need a video to read the article to me. Can't click that shit away fast enough.
 
vetteboy79 said:
Local radio station has an app that they use to publish articles, weather, traffic reports, etc. They didn't make it, it's the same one a shitload of media outlets use, but half the time on a mobile device it pops up so many things that whatever you were trying to read just gets buried. Or you're left with a reading window of maybe a few lines of text because an ad popped up and the 'x' is either invisible or so tiny it's impossible to hit without clicking through to the ad.

I like the station a lot, and the articles and reports are usually useful and worth reading, but the app makes the experience miserable.

Reminds me of this from Ready Player One:

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vetteboy79 said:
Local radio station has an app that they use to publish articles, weather, traffic reports, etc. They didn't make it, it's the same one a shitload of media outlets use, but half the time on a mobile device it pops up so many things that whatever you were trying to read just gets buried. Or you're left with a reading window of maybe a few lines of text because an ad popped up and the 'x' is either invisible or so tiny it's impossible to hit without clicking through to the ad.

I like the station a lot, and the articles and reports are usually useful and worth reading, but the app makes the experience miserable.

Reminds me of this from Ready Player One:

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Local news sites are notorious for this and my speculation is that online interests forced use of ultra-heavy advertising models. Because no one is that stupid, not even old-timey TV media. The companies that did the web development for those cookie-cutter news sites were not Sinclair or Murdoch-associated, but they all conspicuously used the same exact miserable UI.

And yeah the auto-playing clips and ads. The sites are comically unusable which is why I would believe it was a 'poison the well' operation.

The only reason people fuck with local sites is to back up what could be an obvious fabrication of MSM even outlets like AP now are compromised.
 
I remember pop ups and how fucking miserable they were, and then they were gone, just gone for years and years, and now every fucking page (except this one) something fucking pops up weather it be cookie shit wanting me to join signup or any other shit. I'm all mashing the phone or clicker on the mouse thing to get them to go away so I can accomplish what I went there for. a simple three click process now has ten or more clicks and endless interruptions. the late 90's and early 2000's were the golden age for so many aspects.
 
Because web designers are awful, hateful, lazy fucks. All they care about is showing off some new shit, not in creating systems that are easy to use or read. Popups are a great example - first we had those european dickwads decide that we needed to be told websites used cookies - even though every damn website used cookies. But web devs could easily use your source IP to not display it to the free world but no, we have to pop it up from everything. And then the "sign up for our ad-letter", which ironically still pops up when you go to the website from a link in said ad-letter since they are too lazy to add a flag to the URL telling the site you are already a signed up customer.

But what really bugs me are sites that load in the wrong order, so you see what you want but when you click on it the item moved due to something else loading and you click on the wrong thing.

And news sites in general - tons of ads, want you to pay (WTF do you have ads for if people are paying), constant auto-play videos

Predication - We are just as likely to go extinct as a species from a programmers mistake or laziness than we are a global war (if the mistake causes the global war I'm claiming this was true)
 
Every chevrolet dealer uses the same site template and every one of them is just as useless as the next. The only worse one I've found it lowes, that shit is so consistently broken they got me to download the app
 
D Nelly said:
Every chevrolet dealer uses the same site template and every one of them is just as useless as the next. The only worse one I've found it lowes, that shit is so consistently broken they got me to download the app
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That's common across most auto brands.
 
Thatg9659 said:
I remember pop ups and how fucking miserable they were, and then they were gone, just gone for years and years, and now every fucking page (except this one) something fucking pops up weather it be cookie shit wanting me to join signup or any other shit. I'm all mashing the phone or clicker on the mouse thing to get them to go away so I can accomplish what I went there for. a simple three click process now has ten or more clicks and endless interruptions. the late 90's and early 2000's were the golden age for so many aspects.
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That bugs the shit out of me too. I go to a site and just as I’m about to click something a pop up to sign up for their site covers it. I click the no thanks to continue and the go to the next page I wanted and the same pop up comes back again, again, and again:mad3::mad3:
 
Last night I figured out why the joke threads on here are plugged the fuck up with jpeg formatted walls of plain text.
It's from touchscreen posting assholes that have assimilated to the borg so thoroughly that they can no longer copy and paste plaintext.
A symptom of modern thinking where everything needs to be accessible while shitting in traffic and have its own app that needs to share your location, but that's okay because...

Maybe the internet has moved on, grew up; became mainstream, regulated, monetized, and normalized.
Maybe I'm no longer compatible with what used to be one of my best friends.
 
This is why things like AdBlock exist...it makes the browsing world far less shitty. Although fuck the websites who detect ad blockers and then wall you off, same goes for paywalls. Those sites just outright lose my traffic and any hope of getting anything out of me.

Also, cookie popups these days can fuck right off too. There's seriously no need for that shit.
 
SomeGuy said:
This is why things like AdBlock exist...it makes the browsing world far less shitty. Although fuck the websites who detect ad blockers and then wall you off, same goes for paywalls. Those sites just outright lose my traffic and any hope of getting anything out of me.

Also, cookie popups these days can fuck right off too. There's seriously no need for that shit.
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Pages that block you for running ad block can fuck right off.
 
SomeGuy said:
Also, cookie popups these days can fuck right off too. There's seriously no need for that shit.
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You can thank the EU for that along with the constant policy update emails you get. Was part of their shitty internet privacy laws they passed a few years ago. The EU's laws and outlook in general are why the internet shouldn't be regulated by any government.
 
Motorcharge said:
You can thank the EU for that along with the constant policy update emails you get. Was part of their shitty internet privacy laws they passed a few years ago. The EU's laws and outlook in general are why the internet shouldn't be regulated by any government.
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disagree with you on this one. EU is significantly more "citizen friendly" in privacy laws. You at least "own" your own data and can request it purged, etc... in the US, you don't own anything.
 
rockota said:
disagree with you on this one. EU is significantly more "citizen friendly" in privacy laws. You at least "own" your own data and can request it purged, etc... in the US, you don't own anything.
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Except the law of unintended consequences kicked in on that one. Yeah, you "own" your data, but basically all these disclaimers are you agreeing to waive that. So now it's just an annoyance with no point and we're back to square one.

It's also been super annoying in gaming because now all these companies separate US and EU servers under separate accounts for everything to comply with EU laws easier which as made playing games with friends in Europe super annoying.
 
Motorcharge said:
Except the law of unintended consequences kicked in on that one. Yeah, you "own" your data, but basically all these disclaimers are you agreeing to waive that. So now it's just an annoyance with no point and we're back to square one.

It's also been super annoying in gaming because now all these companies separate US and EU servers under separate accounts for everything to comply with EU laws easier which as made playing games with friends in Europe super annoying.
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False. Disclaimers do not, last I checked, change European privacy laws. You can request all data (I believe) once every two years and have much of it scrubbed.

Some mobile apps allow you to request inside them (accuweather) in accordance with eu laws.

shoot... NTLM wasn’t even allowed in Europe - he seems development of SESAME.

the cookie notifications are California and is crap... don’t blame the EU for actually getting something right.
 
rockota said:
False. Disclaimers do not, last I checked, change European privacy laws. You can request all data (I believe) once every two years and have much of it scrubbed.

Some mobile apps allow you to request inside them (accuweather) in accordance with eu laws.

shoot... NTLM wasn’t even allowed in Europe - he seems development of SESAME.

the cookie notifications are California and is crap... don’t blame the EU for actually getting something right.
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You're talking about GDPR
 
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