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Who has actually been fired for not getting the Vax?

Haven't read every post, but someone mentioned traveling nurses. I recently learned about them when my wife got this job. She said they were paying one $1200/hr :eek: I'm sure it sucks, but damn that would be sweet to do when your young.


She also pitched her idea to the ceo and he seemed to like it. He also believes that the hospital is done either way.
 
RusM said:
If you've a nurse and want to do the travel thing I can get you an intro to a good company. :flipoff2:
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What is the company name? Sister in law is a nurse and has done traveling for a few years.
 
YotaAtieToo said:
Haven't read every post, but someone mentioned traveling nurses. I recently learned about them when my wife got this job. She said they were paying one $1200/hr :eek: I'm sure it sucks, but damn that would be sweet to do when your young.


She also pitched her idea to the ceo and he seemed to like it. He also believes that the hospital is done either way.
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$1,200/hr sounds ungodly. It sounds more like ‘the hospital pays the company $1,200/hr and the nurse actually gets paid $300/hr.’ Still a SHIT TON of money on top of a housing stipend.
 
RunningProblem said:
$1,200/hr sounds ungodly. It sounds more like ‘the hospital pays the company $1,200/hr and the nurse actually gets paid $300/hr.’ Still a SHIT TON of money on top of a housing stipend.
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I know, and you may be right. She said it was temporary, but either way, they make a lot. I thought $100/hr to be a commercial diver was crazy, but these traveling nurses are next level.
 
budget76 said:
ignoring the entirety of the for-or-against discussion, this is the discussion that intrigues me way more. Many of these professions are specialized, decent paying jobs. Where do those holding out plan to work if most of the industry requires the same thing? I work for a large turbine manufacturer, in the shop, and our deadline is coming soon. MUCH of the work in this area is .gov related and going to have the same reqs as here, but lots of people both hourly & salary are saying they are going to let it ride and go find another job. But where is an hourly mechanic going to go find another job making $100k????

sure, I could find something else if I wanted to take a 50% pay cut. I have nothing against anyone that choose to, or doesn't choose to get the vaccine. I'm just baffled by some of the people who barely have a high school education banking on finding a different job that pays even remotely close to the same as they make here. Few of them are retirement age, many have so many toys or ex wives they live paycheck to paycheck. Guess they'll figure something out:confused:
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Exactly...... That is my thoughts exactly.... Maybe if your single, young dont have much overhead then walking away from an established position is ok, but man I personally wouldn't do it. Using my wife as an example, it took her about 6 years to get where she is. She did it without a bachelors degree, which is a requirement now at where she works, but because she was there before it was a requirement they wont remove her. If she walks away she would have to either start out as a bottom of the barrel lab tech or just a phlebotomist again and who is to say that she would get the opportunity to become what she is again with out going to school and getting a bachelors degree.
 
DFW Rusty said:
Exactly...... That is my thoughts exactly.... Maybe if your single, young dont have much overhead then walking away from an established position is ok, but man I personally wouldn't do it. Using my wife as an example, it took her about 6 years to get where she is. She did it without a bachelors degree, which is a requirement now at where she works, but because she was there before it was a requirement they wont remove her. If she walks away she would have to either start out as a bottom of the barrel lab tech or just a phlebotomist again and who is to say that she would get the opportunity to become what she is again with out going to school and getting a bachelors degree.
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Some people don't get that part and some don't care. It takes most people years to get where they are work wise. It's not as easy to walk away from as some would make it out to be.
 
budget76 said:
ignoring the entirety of the for-or-against discussion, this is the discussion that intrigues me way more. But where is an hourly mechanic going to go find another job making $100k????
Guess they'll figure something out:confused:
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You have completely missed the point. There are still people left in the world with principles. No amount of money or success or threats will get the jab in my arm.
 
Pony_Driver said:
Some people don't get that part and some don't care. It takes most people years to get where they are work wise. It's not as easy to walk away from as some would make it out to be.
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I'm willing to walk from a great job over this bull shit. hell no its not easy, but that's the difference between talk and action.
 
xr-nut said:
You have completely missed the point. There are still people left in the world with principles. No amount of money or success or threats will get the jab in my arm.
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gunracer1 said:
I'm willing to walk from a great job over this bull shit. hell no its not easy, but that's the difference between talk and action.
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In January I was actually thinking about going to get the shot. I was like well I’ll give it a little longer and see what happens. Then the bribing started. That fired up my natural mistrust of the government. Then the mandates came for only the productive members of society. They don’t require the shot for the illegals or Afghans they brought over. No shot requirements for welfare or ssi recipients.

I am now in the over my dead body camp. If I die from Covid it is what it is. Make sure you guys have a party with lots of hookers and blow for me.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
In January I was actually thinking about going to get the shot. I was like well I’ll give it a little longer and see what happens. Then the bribing started. That fired up my natural mistrust of the government. Then the mandates came for only the productive members of society. They don’t require the shot for the illegals or Afghans they brought over. No shot requirements for welfare or ssi recipients.

I am now in the over my dead body camp. If I die from Covid it is what it is. Make sure you guys have a party with lots of hookers and blow for me.
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Agree 101%.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
The mandates came for only the productive members of society. They don’t require the shot for the illegals or Afghans they brought over. No shot requirements for welfare or ssi recipients.

I am now in the over my dead body camp. If I die from Covid it is what it is. Make sure you guys have a party with lots of hookers and blow for me.
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Quoting to double down on this part!
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
In January I was actually thinking about going to get the shot. I was like well I’ll give it a little longer and see what happens. Then the bribing started. That fired up my natural mistrust of the government. Then the mandates came for only the productive members of society. They don’t require the shot for the illegals or Afghans they brought over. No shot requirements for welfare or ssi recipients.

I am now in the over my dead body camp. If I die from Covid it is what it is. Make sure you guys have a party with lots of hookers and blow for me.
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And, it has become clear how are wolves, sheep and sheep dogs. I'll never think the same of the sheep again.
 
DFW Rusty said:
Exactly...... That is my thoughts exactly.... Maybe if your single, young dont have much overhead then walking away from an established position is ok, but man I personally wouldn't do it. Using my wife as an example, it took her about 6 years to get where she is. She did it without a bachelors degree, which is a requirement now at where she works, but because she was there before it was a requirement they wont remove her. If she walks away she would have to either start out as a bottom of the barrel lab tech or just a phlebotomist again and who is to say that she would get the opportunity to become what she is again with out going to school and getting a bachelors degree.
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I'd have a hard time saying no to up to $600k/year... that's top 1% money/
 
Not fired, but found out I can't be an assistant coach for my kids basketball team unless I get the jab.😢
 
Still waiting. The OSHA thing would have affected us because we have well over 100 employees. I was told that they aren’t likely to go that route because apparently one of the ferry companies in WA required it and they had a large percentage of employees call out sick the day it started. They had to cancel a whole bunch of runs. I wouldn’t be surprised if they do require it for us. SF based company
 
gunracer1 said:
I'm willing to walk from a great job over this bull shit. hell no its not easy, but that's the difference between talk and action.
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Same. The stuff I’ve seen about this vaccine...my health is worth more to me than money.

I’m also fighting the idea of mandatory testing. It’s discriminatory and those tests have dangerous chemicals on the end of them (look on FDA.gov for proof).
 

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so if you were fired because of the osha mandate or the company put something in place because of the osha mandate can they sue to get their jobs back?
 
Get fired and tell your mortgage company to bill the .gov because they are responsible. Enough financial impact and change will happen.

Remember that the true estimate of Vaxxed is closer to 30-40% of US citizens working.

Also if it really mattered you would have to get it for welfare but nope don’t see that anywhere.
 
RunningProblem said:
I heard a cashier at Costco pretty open Lyly bitch about the vaccine mandate, said she was vaccinated, and said it was stupid at this point and she wasn’t getting other boosters. I was shocked because the girl looked 23-24 years old and obviously didn’t give a fuck if I did or didn’t have a problem with her being vaccinated. I figured Costco silenced all that talk.
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They do! :laughing: They "strongly encourage" all employees to be vaccinated, and require masks.


I was asked to put a mask on, after being asked to do night shift. I packed my tools and left. The maintenance guy told me he was trying to organize a strike :lmao:.


I got a call in the morning from the manager. Told him I don't need his work, and he can shove the night shifts up his ass. I was only doing it as a courtesy as they've been a customer for a long time, but I have zero need for the work.

Now, I live in a state that has zero mask requirements. Their corporate management tried to tell me to wear a mask outdoors last summer, and I promptly told them I'm not playing socialist games. Kinda surprised they kept bringing me back after that. :laughing:
 
Thefishguy77 said:
Friend has been on unpaid leave since Monday. We will see if he caves or not.
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Buddy folded like a lawn chair at a weight watchers convention. Got the J&J shot the Sunday before the deadline. Tough talk since the beginning and then when the rubber meets the road he goes from lion to lamb. Honestly not surprised, nice guy but not a ton of real spine in him.
 
Thefishguy77 said:
Buddy folded like a lawn chair at a weight watchers convention. Got the J&J shot the Sunday before the deadline. Tough talk since the beginning and then when the rubber meets the road he goes from lion to lamb. Honestly not surprised, nice guy but not a ton of real spine in him.
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I honestly think this is, sadly, going to be the majority of people.
 
So companies forcing people to take
Unpaid leave can’t you just go to work and make them escort you off property? Even better if you get a criminal treaspass
Right?
 
Thefishguy77 said:
Buddy folded like a lawn chair at a weight watchers convention. Got the J&J shot the Sunday before the deadline. Tough talk since the beginning and then when the rubber meets the road he goes from lion to lamb. Honestly not surprised, nice guy but not a ton of real spine in him.
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One of my co workers was like that. Vocally antivaxx, "fuck this I'll never take that shit, I'll quit" 2 weeks ago corporate rolled out the "if OSHA makes this mandatory we are going to have to comply" email, and yesterday he was talking about being vaxxed now.

We don't even have a mandate, and IF the OSHA rule goes into effect they are doing free onsite testing if you aren't jabbed so it's no big deal.
 
Void_of_Light said:
It doesn't really matter, this isn't just some moral stand. The vaccine is injuring and killing people. keeping your 50% doesn't mean much when you have a fatal heart attack at 32.
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Just had my pulmonary valve replaced on Wednesday (doing great now). Both nurses in recovery told my Wife and I do not get the covid vac shot. They are seeing a large increase in heart issues with it. With my heart issues, it could be fatal. I told them I don't have it and don't plan on ever getting it. They'd have to strap me down on a gurney and force it in me.

I will leave my job if I have to. Wife and I already talked about that. Only good thing is, I'm the only one at work that can do what I do. At least for the foreseeable future..
 
Surveyboy said:
She's gotta know a nurse there that gives the shots.

I know nurses are quite often nuts.

I would have to imagine there is some nurse that will be willing to take her in the back room, fill a syringe and give her the 'shot' and the card saying so. Maybe $300 cash for the right person?
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Go for it but if caught she's pretty darn fawked.
 
Our mandate was sprung on us at the last minute had two weeks to get a Drs exemption or religious exemption. Knowing that the Religious exemptions are iffy I focused on the Drs exemption and couldn't get in to see my neurologist (had Bells Palsy) before the deadline. I've heard that they are flexible but HR came out and flat out said the Religious exemptions are temporary last week. This is my bitter cup of hemlock. Essentially the company I work for has created its own mandate and is for US workers only.


From: G, Lisa
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 12:05 PM
To: , Tom <[email protected]>
Cc: covidresponse <[email protected]>; ,Robert <[email protected]>
Subject: COVID-19 Non-Compliance Notice

Hello:

On October 4, 2021, the Company announced its U.S. COVID-19 Vaccine Policy. This policy requires vaccination of covered U.S. - based employees by December 1, 2021. Employees were required to submit the details of a single dose by November 1, 2021, and for employees subject to this policy, to show full compliance by December 1, 2021. The U.S. COVID-19 Vaccine Policy provides that individuals not in compliance with this policy would be subject to discipline up to and including termination of employment with cause. Reminders about this policy were sent to all subject employees on October 8, 14, and 26, 2021, and again on November 3, 2021. As of today, company’s records indicate that you have not complied with this policy. If you believe company’s records are in error, please contact [email protected].

To the extent company's records are accurate, which we believe to be the case, we are providing you with a final opportunity to comply with the Company’s policy. In order to come into compliance with this policy, you must submit the details of a single dose of vaccination by December 3, 2021 by providing this information in Workday or VaxTracker, and by providing a copy of your vaccine card to [email protected]. Failure to provide this information will result in our proceeding with termination of your employment for cause.

For your reference, employees who are terminated for cause due to refusal to meet company’s COVID-19 vaccination requirement will be subject to the following policies:

· Severance: Employees who are terminated for cause due to refusal to meet company’s COVID-19 vaccination requirement will not qualify for severance benefits from the Company.

· Benefits Continuation: If you have benefits through company, your company sponsored benefits will end on your last day. You may elect to continue your coverage through the COBRA program; information on rates and how to enroll will be mailed to your home address within 30 days of your last day of work.

· Equity: Upon termination of employment for cause, all equity, including vested options, will be cancelled.

· Vacation Payout: Upon termination of employment, employees are entitled to be paid for all earned and accrued, unused vacation.

· Sick Time: Upon termination of employment, exempt employees do not receive pay for any unused sick time hours. Non-exempt employees who are scheduled to work more than 20 hours per week will receive pay for any unused sick time hours in excess of 48 hours up to a maximum of 160 hours.

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