RobC
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It’s crossed my mind that some are trying to steer this towards being like the situation in South Africa. Anyone else had that thought?
You make a great point. I’d love to align with others outside my circle, but currently I know who I can trust and those are people within my circle in Iowa. When shit hits the fan, we know who to trust locally and we will protect each other.
I love your viewpoint, and I fully support your right and obligation to protect yourself and yours.
Prudent preparation, and circling the wagons, absolutely.
But that statement about not getting off the porch until it gets to you is misguided. 'It' has gotten to you. Besides being an American with a duty to America (that's how I feel, don't know about others here), you have an objective moral obligation to try to head off confrontation before it reaches your Iowa porch.
It would be nice if your undoubtedly effective skills a preparation were also applied to some solidarity with those of us who are not in Iowa?
You're basically preparing yourself to be a South African farmer.
Everyone isolated and granularized is exactly what 'they' want.
You could shoot these guys, but more are coming, and no one else is coming to your aid because they have your same attitude. That's a loser's credo.
Someone better check our 6 and find out what they're trying to sneak in behind us with.
Anyone who does or will stand up gets gang banged.
I just want to leave this damn country.
what is the ideal country you're headed to?
United Garages of the Irate.
Trucks, beer, bonfires, live how you want to live as long as it doesn't fuck someone else, and tits or GTFO.
Ok, so I've got a question.
What IS stepping off the porch? How do we fight back? How do we clearly state 'That's enough'? How do we take back the ground that's been lost? The answer isn't firearms at this point obviously, so what then?
We won't go tear down our own set of statues - it's our country.
edit - we've got 2 or 3 BLM street paintings that could get destroyed now - but I'm not driving 20 hours plus to help. It needs to be a movement, but good luck with the political layout of the areas.
We won't go protest the police - they're our people.
Are we numbered enough to vote out the trouble dems? I doubt it in the areas needed. (I can't do shit about Pelosi, AOC, Schumer, etc)
The way I see it, the fastest way to regain ground would be to shut CNN and the like down. How? I can only turn the tv to a different channel, but apparently that's not doing any good.
This is all a ploy to steal the election. Debates becoming questionable, reports of Biden having a big lead, politically terrorizing the president, pretend racism (dividing the country and all), Popular vote pact, shutting down the country with the covid scare, painting BLM on the streets specifically in front of Trump.
And then there's strength in numbers.....WHERE ARE OUR NUMBERS? We don't have a RLM (republican lives matter). We can only act individually.
too many problems - not enough answers.
Ok, so I've got a question.
What IS stepping off the porch? How do we fight back? How do we clearly state 'That's enough'? How do we take back the ground that's been lost? The answer isn't firearms at this point obviously, so what then?
We won't go tear down our own set of statues - it's our country.
edit - we've got 2 or 3 BLM street paintings that could get destroyed now - but I'm not driving 20 hours plus to help. It needs to be a movement, but good luck with the political layout of the areas.
We won't go protest the police - they're our people.
Are we numbered enough to vote out the trouble dems? I doubt it in the areas needed. (I can't do shit about Pelosi, AOC, Schumer, etc)
The way I see it, the fastest way to regain ground would be to shut CNN and the like down. How? I can only turn the tv to a different channel, but apparently that's not doing any good.
This is all a ploy to steal the election. Debates becoming questionable, reports of Biden having a big lead, politically terrorizing the president, pretend racism (dividing the country and all), Popular vote pact, shutting down the country with the covid scare, painting BLM on the streets specifically in front of Trump.
And then there's strength in numbers.....WHERE ARE OUR NUMBERS? We don't have a RLM (republican lives matter). We can only act individually.
too many problems - not enough answers.
I've put forward some ideas:These and many other ideas would work with no violence. 'They' will not move against us in numbers b/c they can't without instigating something big.
- All Big 3 auto companies have come out with statements how much they like BLM and how they will do more diversity hiring. The Big 3 do not make money selling BLM activists cars: Blacks don't buy enough new cars and not the right kind, affluent Liberals buy foreign cars. The Big 3 make money selling conservatives cars. Trucks mainly. So we pick one of the 3, I nominate FCA, and everyone stop buying their shit. No Hellcats or Ram 3500s. Shame everyone who does. We keep this up until they howl, which they will.
- Boycott the NFL. If NFL players want to whine and cry, STOP PAYING FOR THEIR TICKETS AND STOP WATCHING THEIR TV.
- Isolate a State Capital in the numbers of the thousands. If we are there with 5,000 people, we could shut down a State capital. We could prevent the Police going in or out, nobody in cars, no deliveries. We could shut off their utilities. If we provide a physical barrier, the cops WILL NOT try to break it, because they know the boogaloo will go down. So behind this barrier, everyone with their Prepping supplies set up for the long haul, we turn off their water, electricity, and data. This is Civil Disobedience.
- Nationwide Strike: Shut down their garbage collection, HVAC repairs, Hospital maintenance, IT, and the other essential shit THAT WE DO, not the BLM faggots. They'll howl fast.
- Big Corporation fires someone for yelling about masks or having said N-word long ago? SHUT THEM THE FUCK DOWN. Surround their production facilities/Corp Officers, and don't let them in. Stop them from making money. Double with a boycott of their shit.
- University: Berkley has about 1,000 Professors that are openly stating they want Americans replaced with immigrants, that they hate whites, that they are forming a new world order. We can stop every single howling bitch-ass student and Prof from entering Berkley. We could shut Berkley down until the government enacts a proscribed education reform for EVERY Federally-funded institution, and this would include Harvard and Yale, who are private but take huge amounts of Federal money. YOU pay money so that Kamau Kambon can advocate the extermination of your children and grandkids. Why the fuck do you do that?
WE buy the products, WE make the money, WE keep the lights on. They cannot fuck with us if we so choose.
I would say prevent that faggot Jared Kuschner and his plastic-tit wife from leaving their apartments until Sanctuary Cities start getting cleared and something is done with Opioids, just as an example. If the USSS, NG, and military want to fuck, we can fuck. I dare them to break through a line of 10,000 pissed off rednecks, MAGAs, Bikers for Trump.
1 in 1,000 of us could shut this country down in 24 hours, and keep it shut down. Share and ration our supplies. Organize logistics supplies to US, and shut the core liberal cities DOWN.
This could be done right now. It would be 100% effective and we can get ANYTHING we want.
What you are suggesting would take the cooperation of thousands...millions of people. We can't even agree on the condiments for a hamburger 😂
No, it will have to be something direct and specific to a set of particular targets.
I've put forward some ideas:These and many other ideas would work with no violence. 'They' will not move against us in numbers b/c they can't without instigating something big.
- All Big 3 auto companies have come out with statements how much they like BLM and how they will do more diversity hiring. The Big 3 do not make money selling BLM activists cars: Blacks don't buy enough new cars and not the right kind, affluent Liberals buy foreign cars. The Big 3 make money selling conservatives cars. Trucks mainly. So we pick one of the 3, I nominate FCA, and everyone stop buying their shit. No Hellcats or Ram 3500s. Shame everyone who does. We keep this up until they howl, which they will.
- Boycott the NFL. If NFL players want to whine and cry, STOP PAYING FOR THEIR TICKETS AND STOP WATCHING THEIR TV.
- Isolate a State Capital in the numbers of the thousands. If we are there with 5,000 people, we could shut down a State capital. We could prevent the Police going in or out, nobody in cars, no deliveries. We could shut off their utilities. If we provide a physical barrier, the cops WILL NOT try to break it, because they know the boogaloo will go down. So behind this barrier, everyone with their Prepping supplies set up for the long haul, we turn off their water, electricity, and data. This is Civil Disobedience.
- Nationwide Strike: Shut down their garbage collection, HVAC repairs, Hospital maintenance, IT, and the other essential shit THAT WE DO, not the BLM faggots. They'll howl fast.
- Big Corporation fires someone for yelling about masks or having said N-word long ago? SHUT THEM THE FUCK DOWN. Surround their production facilities/Corp Officers, and don't let them in. Stop them from making money. Double with a boycott of their shit.
- University: Berkley has about 1,000 Professors that are openly stating they want Americans replaced with immigrants, that they hate whites, that they are forming a new world order. We can stop every single howling bitch-ass student and Prof from entering Berkley. We could shut Berkley down until the government enacts a proscribed education reform for EVERY Federally-funded institution, and this would include Harvard and Yale, who are private but take huge amounts of Federal money. YOU pay money so that Kamau Kambon can advocate the extermination of your children and grandkids. Why the fuck do you do that?
WE buy the products, WE make the money, WE keep the lights on. They cannot fuck with us if we so choose.
I would say prevent that faggot Jared Kuschner and his plastic-tit wife from leaving their apartments until Sanctuary Cities start getting cleared and something is done with Opioids, just as an example. If the USSS, NG, and military want to fuck, we can fuck. I dare them to break through a line of 10,000 pissed off rednecks, MAGAs, Bikers for Trump.
1 in 1,000 of us could shut this country down in 24 hours, and keep it shut down. Share and ration our supplies. Organize logistics supplies to US, and shut the core liberal cities DOWN.
This could be done right now. It would be 100% effective and we can get ANYTHING we want.
Again, where's the numbers?
Hell, the best place to start, and with reason beyond question, would be a strike by the police. Hell, if ANYONE has reason to bite back it would be them. They can't even decide to go on strike with all the beating they've taken. They've got all the reason in the world, and they even have the numbers.
I'm old enough to remember many times people suggesting riots/revolutions and these types of responses and even worse when talking to friends and family, but from my own observations, this is different. I think level headed people are starting to really see the long terms affects from what is happening and it scares the shit out of them. Do you know the most ferocious animal, the one that feels cornered...
Scared is exactly the issue.
We have more power to scare Corporations and Government than any other group. Conservative Americans run everything, and we are prepared for anything.
As it is, we are just sitting on our ass.
We could force that Prosecutor in California to drop charges against the couple who painted over the BLM sign.
That is exactly what BLM has done. Tit for Tat.
When the Corporations and Government have to choose between pissing us off and using force against us, and pissing BLM off and using force against them, I'm confident they will choose BLM.
I don't know how demoralized and weak you guys are if you can't see this. We can MAKE them choose. Want to move against us? Ok. Now THEY'VE moved it to the next level, and that is called Moral Justification.
We can and should force this.
Again...you're looking at getting thousands if not millions of people to cooperate. That's not going to happen...period. a nice thought but not practical in reality.
I don't like it but the fact is mine and your freedom was not won with words and good intentions but from the spilling of blood of our forefathers. They even stated to keep it, we may have to do the same.
Again, not millions or thousands but a few hundred could pull it off. They would thou have to be willing to sacrifice anything and everything. Not chest thumping retards looking for glory but individuals looking for anything but.
That is however is just my opinion...
But it really wont take that much. His example of the ram plant, word gets out and that's free advertising for the movement. Other people see progress and pushback and become emboldened. It's the SAME tactics that BLM uses. We have the numbers, we have the handles of production and purchasing. We have the power to stop this shit.
The second this shit pops off into destabilizing war is the day this country is completely and utterly fucked. The united states has developed entirely too many enemies abroad to go through an internal struggle WITHOUT foreign intervention, whether that comes from the U.N., china, etc. And that'll be some dystopian level shit.
I believe they have a clause in their contract about civil disobedience and refusing to do their job. Believe it means immediate termination. They'd all have to do it or the first few would be made examples of.
The united states has developed entirely too many enemies abroad to go through an internal struggle WITHOUT foreign intervention, whether that comes from the U.N., china, etc. And that'll be some dystopian level shit.
What you're missing with this plan, is what works for BLM and other Leftist protests is that they have the Fake-Stream-Media (FSM) on their side. They riot, break windows, loot, burn police cars, burn businesses and the FSM praises them, calls it a "peaceful" protest.
We show up, not a single person gets assaulted, nothing gets burned, nothing gets broken and nothing gets stolen and the Media calls reports that "right-wing extremists", "white-supremists" and/or "domestic terrorists" are violently protesting.
In order to be successful, you have to reach the sheeple and unfortunately the sheeple get their opinions spoon fed to them by the FSM.
But it really wont take that much. His example of the ram plant, word gets out and that's free advertising for the movement. Other people see progress and pushback and become emboldened. It's the SAME tactics that BLM uses. We have the numbers, we have the handles of production and purchasing. We have the power to stop this shit.
The second this shit pops off into destabilizing war is the day this country is completely and utterly fucked. The united states has developed entirely too many enemies abroad to go through an internal struggle WITHOUT foreign intervention, whether that comes from the U.N., china, etc. And that'll be some dystopian level shit.
I hope I am wrong and you and evernut is right...but I don't think so.
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Scared is exactly the issue.
We have more power to scare Corporations and Government than any other group. Conservative Americans run everything, and we are prepared for anything.
As it is, we are just sitting on our ass.
We could force that Prosecutor in California to drop charges against the couple who painted over the BLM sign.
That is exactly what BLM has done. Tit for Tat.
When the Corporations and Government have to choose between pissing us off and using force against us, and pissing BLM off and using force against them, I'm confident they will choose BLM.
I don't know how demoralized and weak you guys are if you can't see this. We can MAKE them choose. Want to move against us? Ok. Now THEY'VE moved it to the next level, and that is called Moral Justification.
We can and should force
The lead prosecutor in this case is notably biased. I recommend you Google her image and tell me if you think she is impartial.