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crispins

crispins

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My new location I need to have a double door installed so I have an 8 foot opening

it is a brick building.

It needs to be a permitted job.

First estimate was $25,000

I am sure it was the fuck off price.

I just wanted to get a ballpark of what this should be.

Am I unrealistic thinking that it should be $7,000 or less?

What say IBB?


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Did $25k include Structural drawings?
You're gonna need steel reenforcement around that opening
I don't think $25k all in is too far off
 
Less... get me a whiz bang and i can have a hole in that cmu wall in 45 minutes. Door install is pretty standard no matter the material.
The doors will be your biggest cost. The frame is probably well over 1500 itself. The doors have giant variables too, so they should be picked to suit your local codes and needs. Labor is going to be 2 guys for a day, and you're in tn, so that shits cheap.
 
Obviously I don't know jack squat, but $25K sounds mind blowing. F that nonsense.
 
He said double doors, not garage door. Steel door frames attach direct to concrete then poured solid. The only thing i didn't figure in was adding a lintel. Which is another big cost. Probably not 25k worth, but probably over 10k total.
Bogus One said:
Did $25k include Structural drawings?
You're gonna need steel reenforcement around that opening
I don't think $25k all in is too far off
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Also, I'm a sprink not carpenter so :flipoff2:
 
It depends if the permit requires a stamped engineered drawings
 
Stamped structural drawings (including site survey) - $2.5k
Demo and haul off - $2k
Installation of header - $1.5k
Door and install - $2.5k

I'm kinda guessing from my commercial construction days. With materials being what they are it could be 1.5 times that now.
 
Probably un-reinforced brick, so will probably be C-channel legs and header both sides, through bolted
 
Sterlingfire said:
Less... get me a whiz bang and i can have a hole in that cmu wall in 45 minutes. Door install is pretty standard no matter the material.
The doors will be your biggest cost. The frame is probably well over 1500 itself. The doors have giant variables too, so they should be picked to suit your local codes and needs. Labor is going to be 2 guys for a day, and you're in tn, so that shits cheap.
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rugger said:
Stamped structural drawings (including site survey) - $2.5k
Demo and haul off - $2k
Installation of header - $1.5k
Door and install - $2.5k

I'm kinda guessing from my commercial construction days. With materials being what they are it could be 1.5 times that now.
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doors might cost a bit more than what youre expecting since its an 8' opening, oh and fancy door hardware

also whos cutting the new opening?

idk what tenessee prices are like, can you just pay them in moonshine?
 
3 Times whatever it should!

I'm still lookin fer the cmu called out in post # 3!
 
That's not as easy as it looks. 8 ft is a long way on a roof supporting wall. That's a big header even with a moderate roof load. Not much room, so it'll likely have to be a steel jam all the way around. But still, 25k is high.
 
It seems high, but not sure how much. I would hae expected 10-15K in our area. Support roof for demo. Bust out masonry, c channel door frame with lintle and maybe a w section depending on what else is there. doors and trim out interior. If stamped drawings are required add another 2500 for the eng and misc city inspection fees.
 
4 ft doors are non standard
right now my steel 3 ft doors are back ordered 6 to 8 weeks.
yes you will need a steel lintel.
yes you will need drawings for permit.
demo and new work. a mason to cut the brick, install and mortar in the lintel. the coursing head will need ro be match.
is there electrial switch or anything else that needs to move?

you will need heavy duty hinges
4 sets.
heavy duty gavanized and painted frame.

lock set
keeper
threshold
weather strippping

sealants

what is the back up material? cmu?
if cmu that will need a lintel as well.

the gc, the mason all add overhead and profit onto job, also there are genal conditions.
dumpster rental.

it a small job, should be more around 15k to 20k
 
crispins said:
Yes that was turn key price for drawing, permits, ect...
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That's not really that far off. Material and labor is crazy expensive right now.

You've said yourself you couldn't hire anyone to do basic office stuff around there for what, like $20 an hour? How much do you think a GC and mason is paying for labor in the same area?
 
are you required to replace that crappy awning too?

what are the inside finishes? those will need to patched and painted too?

what are the building owner requirements? did you get their permission.

thought you were going to move to a better location? or is this it? could of negotiate it into the lease.
 
jeeptj19992001 said:
are you required to replace that crappy awning too?

what are the inside finishes? those will need to patched and painted too?

what are the building owner requirements? did you get their permission.

thought you were going to move to a better location? or is this it? could of negotiate it into the lease.
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This is the rear of the shopping plaza I am going into.

The space is 2,500 sq ft

I want to turn the back 1,500 ft into warehouse space that I can store and work on the vehicles in

I have permission from the owner, required to have proper permits, no other requirements.

Inside is drywall

Awning is super crappy, it will be removed.

Owners are ok with a roll up style door, I thought the double door would be better as I may air condition the space
 
Just went to depot today to pick lumber to make a plywood fence for a jobsite total cost in materials for 80 feet was nearly 3700 without labor and we are talking about using cheap shit to just throw away when done. Last time I bought plywood I thought it was bullshit at 32 a sheet I saw same stuff going for 76 a sheet today. I walked out empty handed until I get approval
 
I’d say you are doing good at that price. I’ve been the GC on a couple jobs in the last couple years that required commercial doors and hardware and that shit isn’t cheap. Not to mention the structural work and patch work that will need to be done.
 
Tin Roof said:
I’d say you are doing good at that price. I’ve been the GC on a couple jobs in the last couple years that required commercial doors and hardware and that shit isn’t cheap. Not to mention the structural work and patch work that will need to be done.
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well that fucking sucks. The warehouse space would be great for my operation but I am not willing to pay that.

I was hoping $10k all in and that also includes moving the electrical panel that is in the way.

i have already had an estimate on that and it wasn't too bad.
 
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