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Weaker penis bones in river otters linked to oilsands contaminants in new study

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The obvious solution to this problem is to give river otters Brodozers to drive around in.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ott...erta-1.5818973

A new study has found that hydrocarbon contaminants typically associated with oilsands operations are contributing to decreased penis bone strength among river otters.

That might sound like a quirky bit of science clickbait — but the study's primary author warns that his findings could have broader consequences for wildlife and human health in the oilsands region in northern Alberta.

"We've demonstrated how the bone health measure, the penis bone, is tied to exposure to certain trace elements and to hydrocarbons," said Philippe Thomas, a wildlife toxicologist with Environment and Climate Change Canada.

The male river otter has a penis bone, or baculum, that is typically long, curvy and slender. The study says river otters are considered a "sentinel species" — one which can register the effects of environmental contaminants before other species.

Brittle penis bones could impair the species' ability to reproduce, affecting other species up and down the food chain.

With the help of local trappers, researchers analyzed river otter livers and their penis bones. The specimens came from a range of locations both close to and far away from oilsands sites in Alberta.

"We do find, for the most part, that [the] river otter baculum is stronger, stiffer and denser at the low impact of those control sites — so in areas with usually lower levels of some of these hydrocarbons," Thomas said.

While the discovery of weaker otter penises may stand out, the study also found that the presence of some contaminants — strontium, iron and the hydrocarbon retene — was associated with stronger penis bones among some otters. The former two elements are naturally occurring and retene is a byproduct of forest fires.

The study, Co-exposures to trace elements and polycyclic aromatic compounds impacts North American river otter baculum, appeared in the peer-reviewed scientific journal Chemosphere this month.

Much of the research was conducted at a McMaster University lab that typically studies human bone injuries, not animal penises.

"It was a new area of research for my lab group, certainly," said Cheryl Quenneville, an associate professor in mechanical and biomedical engineering at McMaster. "I have to admit there were a few jokes flying around."

Along with measuring and scanning the bones, Quenneville and her team also conducted destructive and non-destructive mechanical tests.

Quenneville acknowledged that one of the tests her lab conducted might make some cringe — they tested how much force it would take to break the penis bones.

"I should be more sensitive to the way I speak about this," she said, apologizing. "Certainly, we like to say we are trying to help the otters one at a time, trying to ensure their reproductive success."

Thomas said past studies of mice and polar bears have shown that mammals with weaker penis bones tend to produce fewer offspring, or none at all. He said he only thought to study otters after he heard concerns from Dene and Cree hunters and trappers living in northern Alberta."We were given information by those land users saying that they were seeing reduced litter sizes, fewer pups ... at some of these traplines," he said. "So they were concerned that there might have been a reproductive failure.

"So we did a bit more digging around."

In Fort Chipewyan, Alta., one of the communities closest to the oilsands, the head of a community-based environmental monitoring program for two First Nations said the new research validates what Indigenous elders have been observing for years — the collapse of wildlife numbers as oilsands production increased.

"[Thomas] applied science to a puzzle put to him by the elders," said Bruce Maclean, a coordinator of community monitoring for the Athabasca Chipewyan and the Mikisew Cree First Nations.

Thomas's study forms part of the joint oilsands monitoring program that's been spearheaded by the region's Indigenous communities and the governments of Alberta and Canada for almost a decade.

Thomas said he recognizes that studies like these often become highly politicized and weaponized on news and social media feeds by people for and against the oilsands. He added that the industry listens to reputable science and has responded in proactive ways in the past when their practices have been shown to be harmful.

These new findings and further research could help oilsands operators find new ways to phase out or limit exposure to by-products of their operations, he said.
 
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Yeah somewhere between "all industry is ebil" and dumping Dioxin into elementary school playgrounds is sensible conservation.

Oil sands are marginal economically and they've taken a huge hit in the last 10 years with US shale coming on line. It's a dirty, dirty fuckin process and I'd be pretty concerned about Otter impotence as well. Lotta jobs for the lying Canuckian government to keep up there, lot of money. Koch money involved too as well as at least 3 Globalist oil companies.

Its a good story for Enviros to write, reproductive problems are how contamination starts presenting.

Now Canada has already accepted that the landscape has been changed permanently. You cannot remediate former glacial till until you have 2km of ice sitting on it for 15,000 years. But contamination of the water table is another matter entirely, and should be prevented, literally at all costs.
 
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So who is the person jerking off otters that came to this conclusion :lmao:
 
So exactly what gave someone a reason to be checking out the hardness of otter dicks?
 
Yeah somewhere between "all industry is ebil" and dumping Dioxin into elementary school playgrounds is sensible conservation.

Oil sands are marginal economically and they've taken a huge hit in the last 10 years with US shale coming on line. It's a dirty, dirty fuckin process and I'd be pretty concerned about Otter impotence as well. Lotta jobs for the lying Canuckian government to keep up there, lot of money. Koch money involved too as well as at least 3 Globalist oil companies.

Its a good story for Enviros to write, reproductive problems are how contamination starts presenting.

Now Canada has already accepted that the landscape has been changed permanently. You cannot remediate former glacial till until you have 2km of ice sitting on it for 15,000 years. But contamination of the water table is another matter entirely, and should be prevented, literally at all costs.

have you seen any oil sands sites first hand? how about any of the reclamation areas? you also know that oil has been seeping into the river system up there for 100+ years, in fact it was used to seal the natives canoes once upon a time.

and fort Chip is mad? about as mad as it would take for a payment of some kind im sure.
 
have you seen any oil sands sites first hand? how about any of the reclamation areas? you also know that oil has been seeping into the river system up there for 100+ years, in fact it was used to seal the natives canoes once upon a time.

and fort Chip is mad? about as mad as it would take for a payment of some kind im sure.

The same argument I made to redditors about the BP spill. There has been oil seeping into things since forever, like how they used to pipe it into streams in Pennsylvania so that it wouldn't foul salt mines, then some hillbillies, reportedly known as the 'Clampett's', figured out it could be burned in whale-oil lamps.

The problem is not crude oil, which doesn't exist in liquid form in the Oil Sands, but the process byproducts created by extracting it from the dirt.

Oil sands are natural but Oil sand extraction byproducts are not, and neither is the concentration of it in industrial centers.

I am FOR extractive industries. That mean that we're not a bunch of dog-eating filthy Chicoms who don't dump industrial waste into pristine lands. Hell I've always been for opening ANWR, even with the expected occasional spill, because the process is well-known and remediation is understood and well-developed.

If they are injecting extraction by-products into the environment in concentrated forms, then that needs to be looked at. You certainly agree with that. I'm not talking about the known environmental processes which certainly happen I would trust.

The leftover 'clinkers' from that process used to pile up on the Detroit waterfront where the Koch brothers would ship them to India to be burned in power plants. That's how goddamned stupid Environmentalists are. Because it's out of sight, doesn't exist.

But that doesn't involve Canada destroying pristine taiga. Hell I'm for mountaintop cutting coal mining, as long as the runoff is taken care of.
 
Welp that's it, Canada is going to have to shut down all use of fossil fuels and non renewable energy.

Have to do it for the otters. Many millions of Canadians will die, but that's a sacrifice I am willing to have Canadians make to save the otters.
 
The same argument I made to redditors about the BP spill. There has been oil seeping into things since forever, like how they used to pipe it into streams in Pennsylvania so that it wouldn't foul salt mines, then some hillbillies, reportedly known as the 'Clampett's', figured out it could be burned in whale-oil lamps.

The problem is not crude oil, which doesn't exist in liquid form in the Oil Sands, but the process byproducts created by extracting it from the dirt.

Oil sands are natural but Oil sand extraction byproducts are not, and neither is the concentration of it in industrial centers.

I am FOR extractive industries. That mean that we're not a bunch of dog-eating filthy Chicoms who don't dump industrial waste into pristine lands. Hell I've always been for opening ANWR, even with the expected occasional spill, because the process is well-known and remediation is understood and well-developed.

If they are injecting extraction by-products into the environment in concentrated forms, then that needs to be looked at. You certainly agree with that. I'm not talking about the known environmental processes which certainly happen I would trust.

The leftover 'clinkers' from that process used to pile up on the Detroit waterfront where the Koch brothers would ship them to India to be burned in power plants. That's how goddamned stupid Environmentalists are. Because it's out of sight, doesn't exist.

But that doesn't involve Canada destroying pristine taiga. Hell I'm for mountaintop cutting coal mining, as long as the runoff is taken care of.


so no, you never personally been to an oil sands site. you have seen pics and vids, read a few news stories and reports.

which process byproducts are you concerned about? you also know not all Oil Sands operations are open pit right?
 
and just think, if they had outlawed otter trapping (here is looking at you California) they wouldn't have had the sample sizes to make a relevant determination.
 
and just think, if they had outlawed otter trapping (here is looking at you California) they wouldn't have had the sample sizes to make a relevant determination.

Wait, you mean they are not just sneaking up on them with a pair of calipers while they sleep? :laughing:
 
Fuck otters. Vicious evil creatures. Nothing worse than seeing a pod of those vermin rolling down river while you're fishing.
 
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