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Felkis is definitely a bat shit crazy genius, his posts are very entertaining.
 
Do you think he is actually batshit crazy or that he is on to something (however small) and it comes across all fucked up and gets lost in translation?
I think it's interesting but lacking all the other factors. Like sure the prepetual wirlygig plane will fly in space, but can't because there is no atmosphere type of stuff. I do enjoy reading it and it gets you thinking about things.
 
I think it's interesting but lacking all the other factors. Like sure the prepetual wirlygig plane will fly in space, but can't because there is no atmosphere type of stuff. I do enjoy reading it and it gets you thinking about things.
This guy didn’t happen to own a ginkgo farm did he?

Way back on another board there was a guy with a ginkgo farm that would dream up these Rube Goldberg contraptions that were always one good thought away from why they wouldn’t work.

Case in point, the “Wind rocker generator system”.

This was supposed to be a series of three reciprocating generators that surrounded a tree attached to the top of the tree with cables.

He figured that when the wind blew it would make the tree “rock” pulling the cables and turning the generators.

After much deliberation we came to the conclusion that he only invented an expensive and overly complicated means to anchor a tree in place.
 
I love this stuff. Just the shear simplicity of this device makes It so cool. The compressing of the air in column of cold water making the air dry is a awesome side effect.

I am a firm believer humanity is becoming stupider as a whole the more advanced we get. We cant do anything anymore without having to put a chip in it. These drop dead simple analog solutions are being lost to time.
 
I am failing to understand how any significant amount of pressure is being generated. It seems like such a fine line between pulling the air bubbles down with the venturi effect and the air wanting to rise in the water collumn on its own
 
I love this stuff. Just the shear simplicity of this device makes It so cool. The compressing of the air in column of cold water making the air dry is a awesome side effect.

I am a firm believer humanity is becoming stupider as a whole the more advanced we get. We cant do anything anymore without having to put a chip in it. These drop dead simple analog solutions are being lost to time.
Have you every checked out the Taylor compressor at the Victoria dam on a trip to the UP? Some of the surface parts are still visible, when they lowered the dam for hydro plant maintenance a few years ago there were some neat pictures taken but I can't find them now. I also think I read that that most of it is still intact and could work if the water was turned back on . Some info here:

It was also built by Taylor and was rated at 5,500HP. They ran everything at the Victoria mine off of compressed air that they could, even had a "steam" engine that they just filled with compressed air instead of messing with steam. I've been fascinated by it since I first heard about it.

Here is a really good writeup
 
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I am failing to understand how any significant amount of pressure is being generated. It seems like such a fine line between pulling the air bubbles down with the venturi effect and the air wanting to rise in the water collumn on its own
The air get's trapped in the water as it's falling, the water is falling down a column faster than the bubbles can come back up. When they get to the bottom (hundreds of feet underground) they get trapped and are at about the same pressure as density of water*head in feet. Think about holding a cup upside down at the bottom of a waterfall and letting the bubbles get trapped in it. I'm not sure about the ragged chute unit but the one an hour south of me was rated at 40,000 CFM at 120PSI which was plenty for the rubber hoses of 1905.
 
Do you think he is actually batshit crazy or that he is on to something (however small) and it comes across all fucked up and gets lost in translation?
I have read some of his ramblings and I have a reasonably good background in IC engines. He's crazy, and not in a good way like a mad scientist he want's to think he is. He's like 45 year old methhead neighbor down the street that thinks he can make perpetual energy by setting a wind turbine and an electric fan next to each other.
 
I think it's interesting but lacking all the other factors. Like sure the prepetual wirlygig plane will fly in space, but can't because there is no atmosphere type of stuff. I do enjoy reading it and it gets you thinking about things.
Smart enough in some respects to envision perpetual motion machines, but too deficient in others to integrate basic laws of physics into his ideas.

To me he was like an imaginative child with solidworks instead of crayons.
 
I love this stuff. Just the shear simplicity of this device makes It so cool. The compressing of the air in column of cold water making the air dry is a awesome side effect.

I am a firm believer humanity is becoming stupider as a whole the more advanced we get. We cant do anything anymore without having to put a chip in it. These drop dead simple analog solutions are being lost to time.
As you probably know screw type compressors have advanced in the last thirty years from 120 psi max to now at least 250 psi. The coalescers to dry the air of moisture and oil have also advanced as well with some great control with computers and chips.

I agree, the folks operating and maintaining them ignore and bypass the alarms because it is just a air compressor. This causes big problems and shutdowns later of whole plants.
Dry air is hard if you have idiots at the control.:homer:
 
As you probably know screw type compressors have advanced in the last thirty years from 120 psi max to now at least 250 psi. The coalescers to dry the air of moisture and oil have also advanced as well with some great control with computers and chips.

I agree, the folks operating and maintaining them ignore and bypass the alarms because it is just a air compressor. This causes big problems and shutdowns later of whole plants.
Dry air is hard if you have idiots at the control.:homer:
It's also nice when people who know nothing about compressors decide one is too noisy for them while they are giving a tour so they shut off the main disconnect to your rotary screw air compressor while it's running loaded and it proceeds to puke it's guts all over the inside of the cabinet.
 
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I've messaged Feliks and invited him, but so far no response. It was a while ago that I invited him.
 
I am failing to understand how any significant amount of pressure is being generated. It seems like such a fine line between pulling the air bubbles down with the venturi effect and the air wanting to rise in the water collumn on its own
It's Boyle's Law at work.

Taking advantage of gravity to allow the water to flow downhill and then relieve it to atmosphere suddenly to collect the air under water pressure is pretty cool. I'm not convinced the air woul pass muster in many specific engineering qualifications IE instrument quality air has a specific moisture content max and particle size max etc but all of that can be conditioned for sure.
 
It's Boyle's Law at work.

Taking advantage of gravity to allow the water to flow downhill and then relieve it to atmosphere suddenly to collect the air under water pressure is pretty cool. I'm not convinced the air woul pass muster in many specific engineering qualifications IE instrument quality air has a specific moisture content max and particle size max etc but all of that can be conditioned for sure.
Not a lot of applications that require 40,000 CFM of air that are too worried about particle size and dew points. When these were in place the mine's found that drills and motors lasted longer because the air was cleaner and drier than conventional compressors. The air would be at 100% RH at pressure but very cool in the receiver volume compared to any other compressor so once it was expanded out it probably was drier than a "normal" recip or rotary compressor that didn't have a drier. The 300+ foot climb back up to the surface in the air tube probably allowed most particles and any condensed moisture to fall back down.
 
As you probably know screw type compressors have advanced in the last thirty years from 120 psi max to now at least 250 psi.
Submerged Archimedes Screw Heat Air Compressor is one-
 
I am failing to understand how any significant amount of pressure is being generated. It seems like such a fine line between pulling the air bubbles down with the venturi effect and the air wanting to rise in the water collumn on its own
You have hundreds of feet of water column. There's your source of pressure. The rest is just mechanical tricks to harness it.
 
You have hundreds of feet of water column. There's your source of pressure. The rest is just mechanical tricks to harness it.
but the magic is that there's only a few feet of fall between inlet and outlet

takes some brain to figure out how to make the right size inlets for the water and air and the right taper on the vertical shaft to get it to work
 
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