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Waiter’s Gonna Wait

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stfu jimmy
yer a fukkin whiner.
get out the flat rate book and quote the "waiter" a repair timeline.
oh and the service writer must be an ass if you are dealing with repair "hours":rolleyes:


Then there is the shops that take in a weeks worth of work for every wrench in the shop and have folks wait a week just to get an estimate, or work on one vehichle for 30 minuites here and there dragging out a quick job.... whats yer thoughts on that shit?
 
Before when I’d be rushed by a service writer I’d intentionally slow down and work slower to show them the error of their ways and try to make the “the job takes the same amount of time regardless of whether the customer is here or not” lesson into their heads.

You "intentionally" slowed down? That is not being honest, that is being a dishonest fuck head. That type of bullshit is grounds for termination. Don't be a fuck head.
 
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You should be fired if you slow down at the expense of a customer because you take issue with another employee pressuring you. Please call the the owner and tell them what you have been doing. you will be a VP or fired before the end of the discussion
 
You should be fired if you slow down at the expense of a customer because you take issue with another employee pressuring you. Please call the the owner and tell them what you have been doing. you will be a VP or fired before the end of the discussion

Has Jimmy ever let on where he works. Maybe we need to send all his threads to his boss :stirthepot:
 
You should be fired if you slow down at the expense of a customer because you take issue with another employee pressuring you. Please call the the owner and tell them what you have been doing. you will be a VP or fired before the end of the discussion

He’s training service writers to do better. Get on board would ya!!!
 
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Before when I’d be rushed by a service writer I’d intentionally slow down and work slower to show them the error of their ways and try to make the “the job takes the same amount of time regardless of whether the customer is here or not” lesson into their heads. Finally got through to some, but others refused to listen. I told every service writer I worked with to underpromise and overdeliver, not overpromise and underdeliver. Telling a customer that a 2 hour job can be done in 30 minutes only pisses them off more when it ends up taking 2 hours vs telling them a 2 hour job will take 3 hours and then being done in 2. Makes the shop and the tech look better instead of making the service writer look like they stepped on their dick and promised something they couldn’t make happen to appease impatient customers.

I thought my bosses were idiots too when I was 22 years old. Fortunately I grew up but it took a few bumps in the road before that happened.
 
You "intentionally" slowed down? That is not being honest, that is being a dishonest fuck head. That type of bullshit is grounds for termination. Don't be a fuck head.


Okay, let me address some of the criticism I’ve gotten on this issue.

I have no delusions that service writers GENUINELY believe that work can be done faster just because the customer is waiting. My issue is with how most service writers (in my experience working in 3 different shops, over 12 different writers) handle dealing with customers pressuring them.

Too many service writers are stuck in the salesman mentality of “do whatever it takes to make the sale” including blowing smoke up customers asses and telling them what they wanted to hear vs what they needed to hear.

In the first shop I worked in I started out as a line tech in the quick lane, like most guys in the field. And the writer I worked with would tell customers just coming in when we were 5 deep on vehicles getting oil changes, rotates, etc that THEIR vehicle would be in and out in 30 minutes. There was no fucking way that was going to happen unless you just drain and fill them, don’t check anything and pencil whip the mulitipoint.

She expected things to still be done properly AND have all 5 cars gone in 30 minutes, and that just wasn’t going to happen. But she told customers what they wanted to hear and then would bitch because an oil change wasn’t done in 5 minutes (we were allotted 30 minutes per vehicle) because she screwed the pooch and promised something she couldn’t deliver on. But it wasn’t her fault, OH NO, it was my fault because I was too slow.

The real problem is communication and honesty with the customer, and that fault lies with the writers. They need to tell customers what they need to hear, not just tell them what they want to hear in order to make the sale. Some customers are just impatient, have unrealistic time expectations and expect everything to be done yesterday, but I’d say 90% of the problem is caused by writers and shop owners overpromising delivery times and then blaming the techs instead of themselves.

The reason I’d work slower is because expecting me to just rush through a job faster than it can be done undermines the work that I do and makes customers think everything can be done in 15 minutes. Oil drains the same rate whether the customer is there or not, brake lathe takes same amount of time to turn rotors whether they’re there or not, etc. and I was attempting to educate them on this fact by drilling it into their heads. Some writers learned that lesson and saw their customer satisfaction ratings go up as a result, others, like the dumb bitch I used as an example before, was just too stupid to understand it and never seemed to learn, she was also one of the lowest ranking service writers because of constant complaints of “x said my vehicle would be done in 20 minutes and I sat there over an hour!”

You can lead a jackass to water but you can’t make them drink, some writers wised up and were better off after learning my lesson, others not so much, they were too stubborn, didn’t value the work that techs do, and only cared about making the sale so they’d get their commission.

TL;DR - the issue with waiters 90% of the time lies with service writers, not customers.
 
The answer in that situation is not motherfucking the writer or working slower on purpose. The first car that was written up is the first one you pull in and get done, then the rest, in order of arrival. Upset customers and broken promises in that situation lie in the hands of the writer. The customer is going to be mad at the writer that lied to them, not the guy in the shop.

The shit that goes on at the front desk or who the writer blames for their shit CSI score is not your problem, quit making it your problem.
 
OMG Why haven't they made you the boss yet? Do they not realize they have a genius in their premises?
 
Show up on time, keep your mouth shut, and do your job to the best of your ability. That's all you have to do to be successful. Knock it off with the worrying about everyone else.

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it seems like there's always at least one Karen, er Jimmy in any business. Spend too much time being a busy body or complaining to HR or whatnot, just do your gig or get a different gig.
 
The answer in that situation is not motherfucking the writer or working slower on purpose. The first car that was written up is the first one you pull in and get done, then the rest, in order of arrival. Upset customers and broken promises in that situation lie in the hands of the writer. The customer is going to be mad at the writer that lied to them, not the guy in the shop.

The shit that goes on at the front desk or who the writer blames for their shit CSI score is not your problem, quit making it your problem.

Ever heard the phrase “shit rolls downhill”?

Yes I agree it’s the writers problem, but they take their incompetency out on the tech. And I’m sure you can tell by my posts here that I have no problem arguing my point and calling them out on their bullshit:flipoff2:
 
The service writer takes it out on the tech? Well luckily the lube bitch is below the techs so you have no problems.
 
Okay, let me address some of the criticism I’ve gotten on this issue.

I have no delusions that service writers GENUINELY believe that work can be done faster just because the customer is waiting. My issue is with how most service writers (in my experience working in 3 different shops, over 12 different writers) handle dealing with customers pressuring them.

Too many service writers are stuck in the salesman mentality of “do whatever it takes to make the sale” including blowing smoke up customers asses and telling them what they wanted to hear vs what they needed to hear.

In the first shop I worked in I started out as a line tech in the quick lane, like most guys in the field. And the writer I worked with would tell customers just coming in when we were 5 deep on vehicles getting oil changes, rotates, etc that THEIR vehicle would be in and out in 30 minutes. There was no fucking way that was going to happen unless you just drain and fill them, don’t check anything and pencil whip the mulitipoint.

She expected things to still be done properly AND have all 5 cars gone in 30 minutes, and that just wasn’t going to happen. But she told customers what they wanted to hear and then would bitch because an oil change wasn’t done in 5 minutes (we were allotted 30 minutes per vehicle) because she screwed the pooch and promised something she couldn’t deliver on. But it wasn’t her fault, OH NO, it was my fault because I was too slow.

The real problem is communication and honesty with the customer, and that fault lies with the writers. They need to tell customers what they need to hear, not just tell them what they want to hear in order to make the sale. Some customers are just impatient, have unrealistic time expectations and expect everything to be done yesterday, but I’d say 90% of the problem is caused by writers and shop owners overpromising delivery times and then blaming the techs instead of themselves.

The reason I’d work slower is because expecting me to just rush through a job faster than it can be done undermines the work that I do and makes customers think everything can be done in 15 minutes. Oil drains the same rate whether the customer is there or not, brake lathe takes same amount of time to turn rotors whether they’re there or not, etc. and I was attempting to educate them on this fact by drilling it into their heads. Some writers learned that lesson and saw their customer satisfaction ratings go up as a result, others, like the dumb bitch I used as an example before, was just too stupid to understand it and never seemed to learn, she was also one of the lowest ranking service writers because of constant complaints of “x said my vehicle would be done in 20 minutes and I sat there over an hour!”

You can lead a jackass to water but you can’t make them drink, some writers wised up and were better off after learning my lesson, others not so much, they were too stubborn, didn’t value the work that techs do, and only cared about making the sale so they’d get their commission.

TL;DR - the issue with waiters 90% of the time lies with service writers, not customers.


Jesus tits, jimmyblahblah. When are you going to open your own shop and show them how its done?
 
Jimmy numbers - The next time you have a flash of brilliance at work that you assume is a totally original thought and you are sure that we all want to hear about it, rest assured, it isn't and we don't.
 
Hey Jimmy, maybe tell your service writers not to over book every fucking day. A 9:00am appointment doesn't mean shit in the auto fix industry. Its no wonder every customer hates mechanics and service writers. :mad3:
 
I'm lucky because I rarely have to deal with it, 99% of the time they drop off their aircraft and say to call them when its done. I will not rush things with the type of work I do (though I won't be a sloth about it either) its just not safe.
 
Because they don't make the guy that cleans the shitter and sweep the floors the boss of anything ?

I understand that you fuckers don't like my attitude, but what about the substance of what I'm saying do you find to be wrong?

It's fine to dislike someone because of their attitude, but that doesn't make what they're saying any less valid just because they are a douche in how they say it. :flipoff2:
 
It's fine to dislike someone because of their attitude, but that doesn't make what they're saying any less valid just because they are a douche in how they say it. :flipoff2:

Get out of here with your logic and reason. Clearly you have not been paying attention to american politics for the last 4 years. If someone is a meanie head it means they are wrong about everything
 
I understand that you fuckers don't like my attitude, but what about the substance of what I'm saying do you find to be wrong?

It's fine to dislike someone because of their attitude, but that doesn't make what they're saying any less valid just because they are a douche in how they say it. :flipoff2:

I don't understand why you even come here. You do nothing but post your own threads in Chit Chat, not a single soul on the forum agrees with you on anything you have to say and then you get defensive before disappearing for a while and coming back to either bump your old threads or create new ones on the exact same subject.

If you had any legitimate points someone here would agree with you, but you don't. What's the point in continually coming back here and wasting your own time? You don't post or respond to anything other threads, you don't participate in any other sub forums, no tech, ect, ect.
 
I don't understand why you even come here. You do nothing but post your own threads in Chit Chat, not a single soul on the forum agrees with you on anything you have to say and then you get defensive before disappearing for a while and coming back to either bump your old threads or create new ones on the exact same subject.

If you had any legitimate points someone here would agree with you, but you don't. What's the point in continually coming back here and wasting your own time? You don't post or respond to anything other threads, you don't participate in any other sub forums, no tech, ect, ect.



I started posting on PBB because I couldn't find any good "professional" auto mechanic forums where people wanted to discuss technician issues, the industry and the like, so I came there (and by extension, here) hoping to find other techs and to get their view points on the issues I was bringing up that don't really interest or pertain to people outside of this field. Wasn't looking for an echo chamber, just to bounce my ideas off other's that work in the automotive field and deal with many of the same things all techs deal with.

BTW I have had people on here agree with points I have made, maybe not the whole sentiment, but you can't say that none of my points are legitimate :flipoff2: And for those that want to call them basic, beginner level and unnecessary, I've seen some of the best and brightest techs get burned on basic bitch bullshit (blown fuses, rubbed through wiring, etc.).

And I know my attitude makes me sound like a preachy know it all, but honestly what's the problem in talking with other people in this field about my thoughts and what theirs are? I spend lots of time thinking about how I can advance in my career, work more efficiently, make the job easier on the next mechanic, etc. and I want to share my experiences and what I feel is the best way to approach this that I've found SO FAR and maybe learn a different/easier/better way.

And this is the fucking internet, everybody sounds like a know it all asshole behind a keyboard :flipoff2:
 
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