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Vaccine FAILURE, on every level.

Provience said:
Really? Huh
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Also, I'm not saying it's real... but the only person I know that had issues with it was unvaxxed. OG covid early '21, maybe it was something else, maybe it was some weird previous medical issue that didn't cooperate with the type of cold covid is. Don't know.

Dude didn't get very sick, no hospital, basically flu symptoms. Got over it, then for months after would get gassed doing menial tasks. Breathing problems, heart problems, etc. No myocarditis.

Again, I'm not saying it's real... but I think there's more to it.

Maybe. Hell if I know. :laughing:
 
45acp said:
Yea but, I remember hearing about it before the vaxx came out. :confused:
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Hearing in person, or reading on internet?
If there were any articles or anything online about it, any links to such?
I'd be curious to check dates of first mentions of long covid on the net and compare to vax rollout.
Not even guessing on this, could go either way for all I know.
 
45acp said:
Also, I'm not saying it's real... but the only person I know that had issues with it was unvaxxed. OG covid early '21, maybe it was something else, maybe it was some weird previous medical issue that didn't cooperate with the type of cold covid is. Don't know.

Dude didn't get very sick, no hospital, basically flu symptoms. Got over it, then for months after would get gassed doing menial tasks. Breathing problems, heart problems, etc. No myocarditis.

Again, I'm not saying it's real... but I think there's more to it.

Maybe. Hell if I know. :laughing:
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I had it before it was officially in the US. Thought it was a bad cold/flu bug. Which it was. Kicked my ass for 5 days, sickest I had been in a long time.

It was 2-3 weeks before I was most of the way back to normal.

For a good year or so, after a hard cardio workout I would hack like crazy because my lungs would get irritated. I can still feel it just a bit even now.

My wife kept telling me I needed to go to the doctor. I told her it was a virus, there was nothing they were going to do and I was either going to die or survive. I've had pneumonia and knew it wasn't that.

She never got it then. 99% sure our kids had it as well. She got it in Dec of '20. Had a fever and couldn't smell/taste anything for about 3 weeks.

So is there a "long" covid? Probably, but according to those articles there's plenty of other viruses that do the same thing. I still think the majority of these people bring it on themselves with their handwringing and paranoia of getting Covid.
 
Yota Up said:
Hearing in person, or reading on internet?
If there were any articles or anything online about it, any links to such?
I'd be curious to check dates of first mentions of long covid on the net and compare to vax rollout.
Not even guessing on this, could go either way for all I know.
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No links, this was a guy at work and it wasn't even called long covid until he was about over it. I'm going on memory here. 30- something healthy white dude, had flu-19 early '21 and got over it... then for months could barely make it up the stairs at work without getting winded. Would have random sky high heart rate for no reason, I don't remember what all else. In and out of dr. office a few times, nothing technically wrong with him. Went on for a month or 2 or hell maybe even 3.

He was in good shape, zero covid fear, unvaxxed, later on they were calling it "long covid". Other than hearing about it on media, that's all I got.
 
45acp said:
Also, I'm not saying it's real... but the only person I know that had issues with it was unvaxxed. OG covid early '21, maybe it was something else, maybe it was some weird previous medical issue that didn't cooperate with the type of cold covid is. Don't know.

Dude didn't get very sick, no hospital, basically flu symptoms. Got over it, then for months after would get gassed doing menial tasks. Breathing problems, heart problems, etc. No myocarditis.

Again, I'm not saying it's real... but I think there's more to it.

Maybe. Hell if I know. :laughing:
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I had a similar issue but not as severe. In my uneducated opinion I feel we’re starting to see correlations on a broad scale. Somehow I feel a lot of it is connected through vitamin D and inflammation. It really circled around for me with the involvement of the Vagus nerve. This may have been posted here or somewhere else and Dr Campbell is really hyped up right now but he’s doing a great job.







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45acp said:
No links, this was a guy at work and it wasn't even called long covid until he was about over it.
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Sounds like there is a chance that his condition happened, and then later the internet coined a term that was applied to his condition.
Possible?
 
Yota Up said:
Sounds like there is a chance that his condition happened, and then later the internet coined a term that was applied to his condition.
Possible?
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Agreed. Well before Covid I caught something, probably the flu. Knocked me out for at least a month. I couldn’t walk my old dog around the block without needing a nap after. Previously I was in relatively good shape.
 
Yota Up said:
Sounds like there is a chance that his condition happened, and then later the internet coined a term that was applied to his condition.
Possible?
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Yea. I think it will be years before we have all the data/truth with this shit. Sure, it was a cold... but it was also amped up in a lab with our money, then lied about at every turn so who knows.
 
And republicans. Probably more than half the population supported those measures :barf:

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My 74 yr old Mom has always been very healthy. She's into natural medicine, she makes her own herbal tinctures, she eats very well, doesnt drink or smoke, etc...She has always taken good care of herself, and almost never got sick.
She's a caregiver in Santa Fe. She had a few patients in early 2020. She was very afraid of getting them sick. She also voted democrat, and firmly believed our government had our best interests in mind :shaking: So of course she got vaxxed and boosted and masked up.

She went on her annual Mexico yoga retreat in Oct 2020, and came back with Covid, but recovered fairly quickly. In Oct 2021, she went back to Mexico and came home with Covid again. She's never recovered from it. She's been sick for 2.5 years. Nausea, fatigue, joint and muscle pain, breathing problems, brain fog etc etc

Docs are now calling it chronic fatigue syndrome and long covid. She has always said it was Covid that did this to her, but she finally admitted to me that she thinks the vax did it.
 
2JZ said:
My 74 yr old Mom has always been very healthy. She's into natural medicine, she makes her own herbal tinctures, she eats very well, doesnt drink or smoke, etc...She has always taken good care of herself, and almost never got sick.
She's a caregiver in Santa Fe. She had a few patients in early 2020. She was very afraid of getting them sick. She also voted democrat, and firmly believed our government had our best interests in mind :shaking: So of course she got vaxxed and boosted and masked up.

She went on her annual Mexico yoga retreat in Oct 2020, and came back with Covid, but recovered fairly quickly. In Oct 2021, she went back to Mexico and came home with Covid again. She's never recovered from it. She's been sick for 2.5 years. Nausea, fatigue, joint and muscle pain, breathing problems, brain fog etc etc

Docs are now calling it chronic fatigue syndrome and long covid. She has always said it was Covid that did this to her, but she finally admitted to me that she thinks the vax did it.
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Some people report good results with Ivermectin for those long term effects. What's to lose?
 
Mikel said:
Some people report good results with Ivermectin for those long term effects. What's to lose?
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She's very anti western medicine. I dont know that she will try it. She's pretty hard headed.
 
Mountain-Dweller said:
You mean Covid 19 is just a bad cold 🤣
Wow who would of thought :lmao:
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Thats what I thought too. Never got the vax.

Still caught it and that shit knocked me on my ass for a lot longer than any cold that I ever caught. Was pushing 6 months before I was feeling 100% again.

Thats one badass cold:laughing:
 
Steve300xcw said:
Thats what I thought too. Never got the vax.

Still caught it and that shit knocked me on my ass for a lot longer than any cold that I ever caught. Was pushing 6 months before I was feeling 100% again.

Thats one badass cold:laughing:
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But you managed to survive without the jab???
 
JD Mark said:
But you managed to survive without the jab???
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Incredible aint it? Did spend about a week laying in bed thinkin that death might not be such a bad idea:laughing: A lesser man probly woulda caved and went in


I didnt have much trust in the medical field prior to the world loosing its mind. But they were pushing that stuff way too hard for it not to throw up red flags for me
 
I just talked to her about Natto and Ivermectin. She knows all about Natto. And she knows of Ivermectin. At this point they are about the only things she hasn't tried. But I got a weird vibe from her today. Almost like she's ready to give up. She's tired of being sick. Shes tired of trying something else and it not helping. She's just plain tired. Sucks because she's always been the most positive person I know.
 
Slander said:
Yea but don't we need that to prevent kids from getting COVID?
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Only if a store out there is making a profit off selling it direct to them.
Speaking of which...good point.

Are you ok with Pfizer going directly to your kid to vax them behind your back?
Please say yes or the house of cards falls.
 
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