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DMG said:
That may be true about the previous owner. I have only been to a couple, last one in September.

Me and another neighbor were going to bid on a neighbors property and give it back to him or make some deal with him but he got on a payment plan with the county the day before the sale. The upset sale is in a relatively small room at the county courthouse. We had a plan.

The amount owed was less than $5k. The neighbor has 4 small plats, his house spans 2 of them. He thought he was paying on all of them but apparently was not. Now he is.
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So what do they do if it's only unpaid on one of the two plats? Cut the house in half?


That's actually a good lesson in what not to do when breaking up and platting land. Smart thing is to put the house on a small parcel with deeded access from the road, if needed and put the rest of the property on a separate parcel. At least that way if you ever get in to trouble, you can hopefully at least make the payment on the small parcel and not lose your house. A lot of my neighbors who have decent size chunks of land have done this.
 
Outahand said:
They have not been able to kill Trump yet?
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They’re certainly making it obvious they’re not trying. Seems a bill is being introduced to remove his SS protection if he’s sentenced to prison.

Sure would be convenient to have him shanked in prison. I’m sure they wouldn’t commute the sentence of anyone willing to do that…
 
bgaidan said:
So what do they do if it's only unpaid on one of the two plats? Cut the house in half?


That's actually a good lesson in what not to do when breaking up and platting land. Smart thing is to put the house on a small parcel with deeded access from the road, if needed and put the rest of the property on a separate parcel. At least that way if you ever get in to trouble, you can hopefully at least make the payment on the small parcel and not lose your house. A lot of my neighbors who have decent size chunks of land have done this.
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Our cabin is on 1 acre with another 1.5 acres included. We get 2 separate tax bills.
 
Property taxes in some areas are a higher percentage rate for vacant land vs built land. My Arizona properties in Mohave County are like that.

I get a separate tax bill for each parcel.
 
DMG said:
Our cabin is on 1 acre with another 1.5 acres included. We get 2 separate tax bills.
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That makes sense. The comment I replied sounded like the house itself sat in two different parcels. I'm wondering what the tax sale would look like if they didn't pay only one of those parcels.
 
Far more people swallow this bullshit, it really disappoints me and my fellow man.

And some of these are people are freaking like.
 
Dethmachinefab said:
Ya ain't shitting in the hall bath without an easement!
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That gives me all kinds of ideas. What if you owned line 100 acres, put your house on 1 acre and only paid taxes on that, but also granted deeded access to 100% of the other 99 acres to the 1 acre parcel? Don't pay taxes on the 99 by you have 100% rights to it when someone else buys it?

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Dethmachinefab said:
Ya ain't shitting in the hall bath without an easement!
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Wasn't that in Little House on the Prairie? They had neighbors who were two unmarried dudes that built a house on the property line and slept on their respective properties or something like that? :laughing:

bgaidan said:
That gives me all kinds of ideas. What if you owned line 100 acres, put your house on 1 acre and only paid taxes on that, but also granted deeded access to 100% of the other 99 acres to the 1 acre parcel? Don't pay taxes on the 99 by you have 100% rights to it when someone else buys it?
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Probably only works if you're a real estate lawyer and can fight the .gov lawyers for free. :laughing:
 
bgaidan said:
That gives me all kinds of ideas. What if you owned line 100 acres, put your house on 1 acre and only paid taxes on that, but also granted deeded access to 100% of the other 99 acres to the 1 acre parcel? Don't pay taxes on the 99 by you have 100% rights to it when someone else buys it?

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The majority of large properties here are split. Usually 1-5 acres for the house then the rest as land. Tax’s here on undeveloped land are $5-$50per acre a year. It only makes sense if you have over 15-20 acres but it definitely saves thousands year in tax’s on a traditional home, only problem you run into is anything built on that land even a barn can raise tax's substantially.
 
Pocahontas said:
The majority of large properties here are split. Usually 1-5 acres for the house then the rest as land. Tax’s here on undeveloped land are $5-$50per acre a year. It only makes sense if you have over 15-20 acres but it definitely saves thousands year in tax’s on a traditional home, only problem you run into is anything built on that land even a barn can raise tax's substantially.
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Depends on where you are. Outbuildings here are still pretty cheap.

My house is deeded on like 4.25 acres and my vacant land 15.858 or something. Vacant land taxes are still about $300 a year.
 
bgaidan said:
I think every one I've seen, the (previous) owner is legally barred from bidding on the property. I'm sure there are ways around it....like getting a friend or family member to buy it for you. But even the, they rarely go for less than the tax owed and unless it's just a garbage property that nobody else wants, the "locals getting together to make sure the price stays low" doesn't work when investors and corporate buyers are in the picture.
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It’s all online now. You’re bidding against anonymous bidder or guys with names like topbidder1 and REinvestorBro420. The ones I participate in you’re banned from bidding on your own property and so is your immediate family. They check this during either approval to register or before closing I don’t remember.
 
FleshEater said:
Depends on where you are. Outbuildings here are still pretty cheap.

My house is deeded on like 4.25 acres and my vacant land 15.858 or something. Vacant land taxes are still about $300 a year.
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Very much varies but I know of a few instances of putting up a shed moved someone into farm land as opposed to unbuildable. He had to dispute it with the county. He always talked about it as the quarter million dollar shed.
 
FleshEater said:
The government is just one giant get rich quick scheme anymore and it’s become overly useless to we the people. It does nothing more than to serve the bidding of the biggest investors.
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"overly useless"?
I'd change that to something more along the lines of "I'm becoming aware that the game was rigged from the start, the state was clearly designed expressly to coercively expropriate as much as possible and funnel it to those running the charade"

But!
If you go rabble rousing you're no better. You can react to those who have agressed against you and yours personally, but you become a shitbag as soon as you go captain saveaho with grand flashy gestures which will be used to further exactly what they're meant to be against.

FleshEater said:
They also forget they’re supposed to be working for us. All they do is work against us.
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But of course, see the first half above. You do not force ideas upon people without being the bad guy. The state apparatus' entire base function is coercion.
 
[486] said:
Why do you keep going back?
Stop giving them traffic, stop contributing to that shit.
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Can’t speak for the other guy, but sometimes it’s fun to troll the easily-triggered while on the shitter.
 
FleshEater said:
As much as I want to see us have a semi-peaceful revolution back to a free country, the truth is we can’t. We also can’t organize like the left. The last time they tried, the Tea Party movement, they weaponized the IRS and DOJ against American people.

This isn’t 1770 anymore. An organization would require 100% secrecy and if ten people couldn’t vouch for each new member, then you couldn’t take in just anyone. We also already know how quickly a plant can end up in ANY organization.

The irony of all this is that it’s our constitutional right to peacefully remove politicians guilty of working against the constitution and bill of rights, guilty of treason, corruption, etc. But let’s see how that goes.

Simply put, we have lost. Why even bother?
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Why bother?

Because, for a natural order to prevail over some fake and gay bullshit that requires force to continue there only needs to be a single alternative to the forced narrative.

One alternative to the controlled narrative and it all falls apart. Remember that old saying about how communists can not tolerate the existence of an uncontrolled market, where free markets can tolerate communists in their midst? Authoritarianism will always lose eventually.
 
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BDK said:
Property taxes in some areas are a higher percentage rate for vacant land vs built land. My Arizona properties in Mohave County are like that.

I get a separate tax bill for each parcel.
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here in MN you can file a tax return on your homesteaded property
you get about half back
 
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grumpy356 said:
Far more people swallow this bullshit, it really disappoints me and my fellow man.

And some of these are people are freaking like.
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cognitive dissonance is a strange thing

Yeah, you should hate Trump.
But it should be for the right reasons (money printer, state growth (tarriffs, covid, guns), etc) not this made up 'orange man bad' bullshit
 
bgaidan said:
That makes sense. The comment I replied sounded like the house itself sat in two different parcels. I'm wondering what the tax sale would look like if they didn't pay only one of those parcels.
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My neighbors is on 2 separate plats. And one was potentially getting sold.
 
BigBurt said:
It’s all online now. You’re bidding against anonymous bidder or guys with names like topbidder1 and REinvestorBro420. The ones I participate in you’re banned from bidding on your own property and so is your immediate family. They check this during either approval to register or before closing I don’t remember.
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The upset tax sale i referred to earlier is only in person. You have to register in advance. It is in a room at the county courthouse.
 
Jag said:
Uncle Don out enjoying the UFC fight, hes not worried about demoturds.
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He’s worried. He’s out & about, putting on a good face but he’s worried.

And this is the problem with social media. You take one picture and infer all this shit about somebody’s life. And it’s never an accurate representation of what is actually going on. It’s the face they’re putting forward.
 
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